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purplefrog · 05-21-2024, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Perhaps we could keep the "get Luka off my team" opinions to yourself this series? Guy was dealing with serious injuries and yet people just can't help themselves.

There is not a worse basketball opinion on earth than wanting Luka off the team.

Agree 100+%

blessednegr0 · 05-21-2024, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Nick Wright picks Mavs in 6:

https://x.com/ftfonfs1/status/179291...P-fUxROA9UvgJA

Also the only guy on tv to bring up what Luka has accomplished so far

https://x.com/ftfonfs1/status/179273...P-fUxROA9UvgJA

Love Nick Wright. He keeps it real.

ShaggyDirk · 05-21-2024, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Nick Wright picks Mavs in 6:

https://x.com/ftfonfs1/status/179291...P-fUxROA9UvgJA

Also the only guy on tv to bring up what Luka has accomplished so far

https://x.com/ftfonfs1/status/179273...P-fUxROA9UvgJA

He?s a smart guy. My thoughts exactly.

BPo001 · 05-21-2024, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blessednegr0

Love Nick Wright. He keeps it real.

Not to derail this thread, but Wrights rant on Pat Bev is legendary.

Thespiralgoeson · 05-22-2024, 01:32 AM

blessednegr0 · 05-22-2024, 02:06 AM

Not going to lie, this only made me more excited. DJJ has them Kendrick Lamar vibes to him. I can't wait to watch this game tomorrow. Let's hope our guys pull a miracle and finally win a game 1 under Kidd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7G...s%2CNBA%26WNBA

After getting through the video, I am loving what Kidd is saying about the refs.

I THINK THIS TEAM IS LOCKED IN

greenhorn63 · 05-22-2024, 05:47 AM

Believe it.....Tony is coming! Tony's performance yesterday....free throws Boston - Indiana 30-10!

BPo001 · 05-22-2024, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

It?s pretty insane to think Luka had by far his worst ever series and still almost averaged a triple double. Dude is special.

SMC0007 · 05-22-2024, 08:15 AM

It would be cool if the Mavs could change it up a bit and win game 1. Maybe not send all us fans into a spiral.

By any means necessary

DevinHarriswillstart · 05-22-2024, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

And he shot 39% from three, yet some on here trashed him mercilessly.

Hopefully his injuries won't nag him as much but who knows...

ShaggyDirk · 05-22-2024, 09:36 AM

The only "trashing" anybody does on here is the widely known fact that he has shown that he CAN control himself and make it about winning the basketball game vs winning an argument with the refs, but he chooses not to when things aren't going right for him. So let's put this to bed and stop with the poor Luka sentiments.

saclare · 05-22-2024, 09:41 AM

Yea I mean, game 5 Luka is all we want consistently. That was the most focused I've seen him in probably ever. Someone told him to stop the fuckin chirping and play ball.

DevinHarriswillstart · 05-22-2024, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ShaggyDirk

The only "trashing" anybody does on here is the widely known fact that he has shown that he CAN control himself and make it about winning the basketball game vs winning an argument with the refs, but he chooses not to when things aren't going right for him. So let's put this to bed and stop with the poor Luka sentiments.

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Fat Luka is done.

Mavs need to do their due diligence and shop Luka this offseason. These lower body injuries aren?t going to get better. He?s already shown he won?t get into optimal NBA condition? this will age poorly. The trade will likely be frowned upon but we?re not winning a title with Luka. It aint happening and you don?t want an overpaid fat boy with lower body concerns leading into his 30?s. It?ll sink this franchise for the next decade.

Whoops...

ShaggyDirk · 05-22-2024, 10:14 AM

I've said my peace... And I stand by everything I have said about Luka. He's a grown man with a family and one of the best players I've ever seen acting like a baby on the court at times. Which he clearly isn't a baby - the way he destroys everything when he's focused.

He needs to take the next step or he will continue to get ridiculed, hurt our chances of winning it all, and only be a consideration for MVP.

To add.. we don't win game 5 if he's acting like he did in game 4. I was there. It was embarrassing.

Melonhead · 05-22-2024, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Kinda wild, literally everyone (tv, podcasts) downplayed his series. Don?t get me wrong there were a couple rough games but he always seems to find a way. We?re just so accustomed to his greatness.

DevinHarriswillstart · 05-22-2024, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Kinda wild, literally everyone (tv, podcasts) downplayed his series. Don?t get me wrong there were a couple rough games but he always seems to find a way. We?re just so accustomed to his greatness.

Luka having bad games offensively was the best thing to happen to the team.

Suddenly guys like DJJ, PJ, and Green all got the green light to actually do things on offense.

We need to win games when he is having an "off" one.

Of course, his off game offensively was also an "on" game defensively and rebounding-wise.

Scoobay · 05-22-2024, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Luka having bad games offensively was the best thing to happen to the team.

Suddenly guys like DJJ, PJ, and Green all got the green light to actually do things on offense.

We need to win games when he is having an "off" one.

Of course, his off game offensively was also an "on" game defensively and rebounding-wise.

i suppose one view is that this is all natural and organic growth of the team. Luka exerting and executing more as part of team defense knowing that he doesn't have to save it all for the offensive side of things. And the rest of the team stepping up to make plays and big shots leading to less of a need for Luka to just do hero ball.

I really want them to keep all the core players for another run. minus THJ - ready to move on from him and bring on OMAX and give hardy more of a role.

saclare · 05-22-2024, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobay

i suppose one view is that this is all natural and organic growth of the team. Luka exerting and executing more as part of team defense knowing that he doesn't have to save it all for the offensive side of things. And the rest of the team stepping up to make plays and big shots leading to less of a need for Luka to just do hero ball.

I really want them to keep all the core players for another run. minus THJ - ready to move on from him and bring on OMAX and give hardy more of a role.

THJ is the one that has to go in order to keep DJJ...easy call but as fans we will have to be prepared to part with something attached to THJ and his expiring. I'm think a 2nd round pick or two, definitely no 1st.

Melonhead · 05-22-2024, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by saclare

THJ is the one that has to go in order to keep DJJ...easy call but as fans we will have to be prepared to part with something attached to THJ and his expiring. I'm think a 2nd round pick or two, definitely no 1st.

yeah DJJ would have to be asking for full mle, the other options he's played himself out of. Which means THJ has to be moved to make room. I would say there's no way DJJ is leaving but I wouldve bet my life Jalen Brunson wasnt leaving too.

Thespiralgoeson · 05-22-2024, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ShaggyDirk

I've said my peace... And I stand by everything I have said about Luka. He's a grown man with a family and one of the best players I've ever seen acting like a baby on the court at times. Which he clearly isn't a baby - the way he destroys everything when he's focused.

He needs to take the next step or he will continue to get ridiculed, hurt our chances of winning it all, and only be a consideration for MVP.

To add.. we don't win game 5 if he's acting like he did in game 4. I was there. It was embarrassing.

I'm tired of Luka complaining too... But I'm WAY more tired of people complaining about Luka's complaining. It's fucking overblown. Dort was mauling him on every single play. And I maintain Luka's complaining has never actually cost us a game. At very worst its just annoying.

SMC0007 · 05-22-2024, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

yeah DJJ would have to be asking for full mle, the other options he's played himself out of. Which means THJ has to be moved to make room. I would say there's no way DJJ is leaving but I wouldve bet my life Jalen Brunson wasnt leaving too.

Only way I see DJJ leaving is if we win a chip.

EricaLubarsky · 05-22-2024, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Only way I see DJJ leaving is if we win a chip.

I am so confused. You think he leaves if we win it all?

Thespiralgoeson · 05-22-2024, 05:52 PM

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I am so confused. You think he leaves if we win it all?

I can see it. It probably makes other teams covet him more and might put him out of our price range. Championship teams almost always get picked apart by free agency. It just happened to the Nuggets- they lost Bruce Brown and Jeff Green. I bet they get past Minnesota if they still have those guys.

DevinHarriswillstart · 05-22-2024, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

I'm tired of Luka complaining too... But I'm WAY more tired of people complaining about Luka's complaining. It's fucking overblown. Dort was mauling him on every single play. And I maintain Luka's complaining has never actually cost us a game. At very worst its just annoying.

Main issue is the reffing is bad. So whether a player, coach, or org complains doesn't really change the root of the problem. Luka is right 9 times out of 10 about the lack of calls.

And my gripe wasn't about Luka complaining to the officiating as you saw in my response.

G-Man · 05-22-2024, 06:34 PM

I've watched almost every Mavs game since Luka arrived and watched him complain a lot. My conclusion is its pretty much irrelevant. The only possible harm is to the Mavs if Luka doesn't get back on defense.

However, now that the haters can't fairly say that Luka is out of shape, or Luka doesn't play defense, this is all they have left to fall back on. The entire tenor of the coverage of the OKC series came down to "why can't Luka be a boring choir boy like SGA?"

Look at the play where Luka got his last tech. He was rebounding when he got pushed in the shoulder and knocked down, while the ball he was about to control skittered out of bounds. Yet in all the whining on TNT about Luka, they never mentioned he was right on the call. It cost him a tech and cost the Mavs a possession, in a one possession game. He had every right to be pi $$ed.

ShaggyDirk · 05-22-2024, 07:20 PM

I?m looking forward to more Game 5 Luka.

EricaLubarsky · 05-22-2024, 07:38 PM

We need this shot blocking Gafford

EricaLubarsky · 05-22-2024, 07:42 PM

50% FG
50% 3pt

Hoping Kidd can get some defense going

BPo001 · 05-22-2024, 07:43 PM

Going to be a long series watching Gobert push people around

BPo001 · 05-22-2024, 07:44 PM

Would have liked to see PJ take a few dribbles for a short mid range there, but the 3 was open

EricaLubarsky · 05-22-2024, 07:46 PM

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Going to be a long series watching Gobert push people around

That?s my biggest concern. Dude gets away with so much. Gafford has the muscle to keep him from getting too much but not the length. Lively has the length but he?s just too skinny and Gobert can do anything he wants including two arms to the back and it?s okay