Tracking Chad Hutchinson

[Rod1975]

Originally posted by: Drbio
How the hell did we win 10 games last year?

4 words:

Big Bill

Smoke 'n' Mirrors

(is that 4 1/2?)

[Murphy3]

Defense should take the majority of the credit.

[madape]

Hutchinson throws 2 TD passes in NFL Europe

11:55 PM CDT on Sunday, May 9, 2004

Associated Press


DUESSELDORF, Germany – Mike Shafer kicked two second-half field goals and Chad Hutchinson threw two scoring passes to lead the Rhein Fire to a 20-13 victory over the Amsterdam Admirals in NFL Europe on Sunday.

Shafer kicked a 20-yard field goal in the third quarter and converted a 36-yarder in the fourth quarter.

Hutchinson threw a 48-yard scoring pass to Shockmain Davis, and a 22-yard TD pass to Willie Quinnie, all in the first quarter.

Hutchinson completed 20 of 27 passes for 263 for the Fire (3-3).

Silvio Diliberto kicked field goals of 24 and 25 yards for Amsterdam (2-4), and Gibran Hamdan completed 7 of 13 passes for 146 yards and one touchdown.

Also for the Admirals, Clint Stoerner completed 11 of 18 passes for 122 yards

[dirno2000]

Game 5 - Amsterdam Admirals vs. Rhein Fire

Attempts- 27
Completions- 20
Yards - 263
Sacks - 3 (21 yards)
TD's - 2
Long - 48
Int's - 0
Fumbles - 0
Rating - 129.1

[madape]

Get ready for #7 to make a comeback!

Quincy, watch your back. You've got two backups much more talented than you who would like nothing better than to ensure your career finally comes to it's long overdue demise.

[dirno2000]

I don't see where Chad's training camp reps are going to come from. Love him or hate him, Quincy comes in as the starter, Henson will get his reps as the QB of the future and they're probably going to sign Vinney on 6/1. On top of all that, Parcells talked about how well Romo is doing this summer. The way I see it, Chad is just playing to improve his trade value. Maybe San Fran will bite since Ken Dorsey is their current starter.

[madape]

dirno - Quincy has the upper hand, but by no means does he have the job won. Parcells will let them all compete for the job in training camp. This is bad news for Quincy since he will clearly be the least talented of all five QBs in camp. It could mean his job.

Vinny will be brought here to be the backup, not the third string. The battle will be between Quincy and Hensen for the starting job, with the loser being relegated to third string. I think both Hensen and the Cowboys would be fine with seeing Drew accept that role for a year. I don't think Quincy would accept it, and I don't think the Cowboys would particularly like to have Quincy stick around after losing his job. The last thing we want is for QB allegiances to divide our team. If Hensen beats out Quincy for the starting job, I advocate cutting Carter and letting Romo and Hutch fight it out for the third string.

After hearing nothing but incredibly good things about Hensen, I think this is a very realistic possibility.

[dirno2000]

I'm sure Henson looks good throwing in shorts without a pass rush. Is there a more useless way to evaluate a QB? I don't think there's any way that he sees the field this season. At least I hope he doesn't because if he does we're in bad shape.

Quincy took his demotion like a man last time. He continued to work hard and he was not a dividing force in the room. There is no evidence to suggest that he would be a cancer if he loses his job.

Now lets look at pure reps in camp and in practice. Quincy goes into camp as the established starter so he probably gets at least 50% of the reps. I agree that Vinny will be brought in as the backup so he has to get the necessary reps to allow him to learn the offense and be ready to play. I just don’t see how that leaves enough reps for two more QB’s to battle it out for the 3rd team job.

[dalmations202]

I just don’t see how that leaves enough reps for two more QB’s to battle it out for the 3rd team job.

2 QB's (Romo, Hutchinson) plus Henson......3 QB' for the #3 slot.........if Carter is your starter, and Vinny your backup.
Personally I don't like the Carter 1, Vinny 2 idea, but that is just my opinion.

I am like you, and don't see enough reps for the 3,4,5 people though. Some of them have to go.

[Murphy3]

The cowboys could carry 4 if they pick up Vinny

[aexchange]

lets conveniently ignore the fact that hutch put up his numbers against the WORST team in the NFLE.

hell, when qcar posted his career setting numbers, it was against the detroit lions. granted they were the worst team in the NFL. but its still not the stinkin NFLE.

[dalmations202]

Originally posted by: aexchange
lets conveniently ignore the fact that hutch put up his numbers against the WORST team in the NFLE.

hell, when qcar posted his career setting numbers, it was against the detroit lions. granted they were the worst team in the NFL. but its still not the stinkin NFLE.

So, a NFLE team vs the Lions , anyone giving odds ? ? ?

[Murphy3]

Originally posted by: aexchange
lets conveniently ignore the fact that hutch put up his numbers against the WORST team in the NFLE.

hell, when qcar posted his career setting numbers, it was against the detroit lions. granted they were the worst team in the NFL. but its still not the stinkin NFLE.

Let's also not conveniently ignore the fact that hutch is playing with NFLE talent on his team. There's two sides to that, Aex.

[aexchange]

Originally posted by: Murphy3

Let's also not conveniently ignore the fact that hutch is playing with NFLE talent on his team. There's two sides to that, Aex.

thats true but so are the other QB's. it still doesn't excuse the fact that he is 2nd to last in the league in td's and last in the league in fumbles.

his time here as a cowboy is done. if we can even salvage a 6th rd pick for him, it will be fantastic. that said, i cant wait for henson to mature (football wise) quickly enough to get on the field. i cant wait to see a 10 yrd slant or 20 yrd out pass hit the receiver in stride without some kind of goofy wobble.

[Murphy3]

They might not be done.

He also only has 2 interceptions and is 4th in the NFLE despite not throwing alot of TD's. Have you watched many of the games? It reminds me alot of Troy Aikman's first couple of years in Dallas. There's absolutely not protection. And please, do not compare the cowboys' line of the late 80's and into the very early 90's to anything that Quincy has had. There is no comparison.

[aexchange]

Originally posted by: Murphy3
They might not be done.

He also only has 2 interceptions and is 4th in the NFLE despite not throwing alot of TD's. Have you watched many of the games? It reminds me alot of Troy Aikman's first couple of years in Dallas. There's absolutely not protection. And please, do not compare the cowboys' line of the late 80's and into the very early 90's to anything that Quincy has had. There is no comparison.

i've watched a couple of his games. and the reason he's only thrown 2 int's is mostly due to the fact that he fumbles the ball away or his complete lack of pocket presence results in sacks.

[Murphy3]

Originally posted by: aexchange

i've watched a couple of his games. and the reason he's only thrown 2 int's is mostly due to the fact that he fumbles the ball away or his complete lack of pocket presence results in sacks.

I would say that it probably has more to do with the complete jail breaks that the offensive line gives up. But, Hutch also has a problem with holding on to the ball.

So, do you want a QB that has little pocket presence and can't throw the ball or a QB that has the same lack of pocket presence and fumbles too often?

Personally, I see absolutely no hope for Carter. I see just slightly more for Hutch. That's not exactly a ringing endorsement for Hutch to say that I think he has a slightly better chance of succeeding at the QB level than Carter. It's like saying that I think Benji Molina has a better chance to steal more bases this season than Larry Parrish did in his 15th season.

[madape]

Cowboys | Hutchinson Named NFLE Offensive Player of Week - from www.KFFL.com
Tue, 11 May 2004 13:51:52 -0700

The Associated Press reports Dallas Cowboys QB Chad Hutchinson has been named NFL Europe Offensive Player of the Week for his performance Sunday, May 9, in the Rhein Fire's 20-13 win over the Amsterdam Admirals. Hutchinson completed 20 of 27 attempts for 263 yards and two touchdowns with no interceptions for a 129.1 passer rating.

[madape]

[madape]

Hutch once again lead the NFLE in passing.

Passing: C.Hutchinson (RHE) 26-42-305 1TD 1INT

These numbers were against the Berlin Thunder, arguably the best team in the league.

[u2sarajevo]

I hope he (Chutch) continues to do well, and keeps on increasing his trade value.

[Drbio]

I hope he plays well enough to fix the mental funk he has been in. That could be more important than trade value.

[Murphy3]

The one interception was a dropped pass.

[madape]

What do you think Quincy's trade value is these days? A rotten fish? A bucket of poop? What?

[Murphy3]

Originally posted by: madape
What do you think Quincy's trade value is these days? A rotten fish? A bucket of poop? What?

A bag of urine.

[aexchange]

Originally posted by: madape
Hutch once again lead the NFLE in passing.

Passing: C.Hutchinson (RHE) 26-42-305 1TD 1INT

These numbers were against the Berlin Thunder, arguably the best team in the league.

once again one more fumble.

if this were flag football, hutch would be your first pick in the draft. but its not, and he STILL can't hang onto the ball. if we can get a 7th for this guy, it will be a miracle.

at this point he's no better than 3rd string on most NFL teams with the exception of maybe the cardinals.

[dalmations202]

Originally posted by: aexchange

once again one more fumble.

if this were flag football, hutch would be your first pick in the draft. but its not, and he STILL can't hang onto the ball. if we can get a 7th for this guy, it will be a miracle.

at this point he's no better than 3rd string on most NFL teams with the exception of maybe the cardinals.

Just as a question? What QB on the Cowboys wouldn't be a 3rd stringer on most NFL teams except the Cardinals? ?

[Drbio]

Drew Henson.

[FilthyFinMavs]

Originally posted by: madape
What do you think Quincy's trade value is these days? A rotten fish? A bucket of poop? What?

Whatever Hutch's value is times it by 10 then you have your answer.

[Drbio]

0 x 10 = 0.....as in nothing...nada...bag of piss....bucket of poop...yada yada yada....

[Drbio]

.....and nothing more than that...as a bucket of poop is a very high standard and goal for Qshitty.

[dirno2000]

It always comes back to Quincy

[madape]

Originally posted by: dirno2000
It always comes back to Quincy

Let's just hope Quincy doesn't come back...again.

[dalmations202]

Originally posted by: Drbio
Drew Henson.

I hope you are right.... But, since he has been out of football for so long, I would expect him to be a 3rd stringer for this year on any team in the NFL (except maybe the Cardianals)

[chumdawg]

I suppose some people never bore of kicking the local dogs around, but my goodness, have a look around the rest of the league. There's so much more that you could kick around out there. The level of QB play on the whole is pretty sad.

[dalmations202]

The level of QB play on the whole is pretty sad.

Agreed......are the defenses getting better, or the QB's getting worse? ?

[FilthyFinMavs]

Originally posted by: Drbio
0 x 10 = 0.....as in nothing...nada...bag of piss....bucket of poop...yada yada yada....

That would be correct if Carter equaled 0 but he doesn't so try again.

[Drbio]

Originally posted by: FilthyFinMavs

That would be correct if Carter equaled 0 but he doesn't so try again.

Wow. Such an intellectually stimulating retort. I almost pulled out my thesaurus. That has to rank right up there with "my daddy is bigger than your daddy" and "Well....oh yeah?" ... in terms of quality responses.


Qshitty is a spare on his best day. Nothing more.

[FilthyFinMavs]

Originally posted by: Drbio

Wow. Such an intellectually stimulating retort. I almost pulled out my thesaurus. That has to rank right up there with "my daddy is bigger than your daddy" and "Well....oh yeah?" ... in terms of quality responses.


Qshitty is a spare on his best day. Nothing more.

Why did you almost have to pull out a thesaurus? I tried to make my post simple enough for you to understand. I was just simply trying to help you out. You have it in your head that Quincy is nothing and I thought i'd inform you that he is more than nothing. Doesn't matter though because hopefully are future qb is Drew Henson and we can take the hit on Hutch and take it as a failure.

[chumdawg]

The good doctor has a serious case of Qhate. Do yourself the favor of not expecting anything objective out of him when it comes to the Cowboys quarterback.