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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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I'm becoming pretty confident that Christie will be the Mavs main off-season acquisition. It's not a bad pick up. I just wish we could address that backup center position first.
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I'm afraid of that, too, ape. Christie by himself is a solid addition but not enough. Christie combined with Mutombo meets all needs the team has except a top notch starting SG.
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Seems to me that if they waive Fin every body wants him. So if they don't waive Fin then we have a very high notch SG right? Picking up Christie and Deke and not losing Fin is a good offseason then right?
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Fin is a top notch SG at $5M a year, but not $17M. That is why everybody wants him.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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I'm becoming pretty confident that Christie will be the Mavs main off-season acquisition. It's not a bad pick up. I just wish we could address that backup center position first.
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I'm afraid of that, too, ape. Christie by himself is a solid addition but not enough. Christie combined with Mutombo meets all needs the team has except a top notch starting SG.
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Seems to me that if they waive Fin every body wants him. So if they don't waive Fin then we have a very high notch SG right? Picking up Christie and Deke and not losing Fin is a good offseason then right?
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Fin is a top notch SG at $5M a year, but not $17M. That is why everybody wants him.
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08-11-2005, 10:33 AM
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
I still think the mavs need to add some kind of a shooter (2/3). hopefully Q will fill that role, but his shot is exactly smooth at times
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
I still think the mavs need to add some kind of a shooter (2/3). hopefully Q will fill that role, but his shot is exactly smooth at times
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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I can't watch Christie throw gang signs to his wife all year. I'm returning my season tix if this happens.
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*sigh*....what if he brings tough D and an overall good option at the 2?....is your loyalty so weak?
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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I can't watch Christie throw gang signs to his wife all year. I'm returning my season tix if this happens.
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*sigh*....what if he brings tough D and an overall good option at the 2?....is your loyalty so weak?
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08-11-2005, 11:37 AM
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
This would be great for the team. It is another positive step in the defensive direction. My only hope is that we can maximize the rest of the MLE to sign either Deke or Stephen Hunter.
If those two things occur, this will have been a productive summer regardless of what comes out of the Finley situation.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
This would be great for the team. It is another positive step in the defensive direction. My only hope is that we can maximize the rest of the MLE to sign either Deke or Stephen Hunter.
If those two things occur, this will have been a productive summer regardless of what comes out of the Finley situation.
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08-11-2005, 11:39 AM
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
joke, right?
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08-11-2005, 11:39 AM
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
joke, right?
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08-11-2005, 11:41 AM
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RE: Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
have a great explination or leave.
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RE: Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
have a great explination or leave.
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08-11-2005, 12:00 PM
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RE: Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
How's come he hopes to sign a contract next week, but he won't do anything until he visits, and he won't visit until the 22nd?
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RE: Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
How's come he hopes to sign a contract next week, but he won't do anything until he visits, and he won't visit until the 22nd?
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08-11-2005, 12:14 PM
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
good addition at a reasonable price. I think we can still get hunter at 2 mil. the suns offer is at 1.6 and he is still talking to them so I dont think his market is that high.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
good addition at a reasonable price. I think we can still get hunter at 2 mil. the suns offer is at 1.6 and he is still talking to them so I dont think his market is that high.
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08-11-2005, 12:23 PM
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
Interesting. Several people earlier mentioned Mutombo for the MLE and I wasn't so thrilled, but with everyone coming off the board I'm willing to give him half of the MLE as I do think he could help DJ and the Mavs in the playoffs. Of course he isn't the athletic guy the Mavs have been talking about.
And I'm okay with Christie too, but why $3 million? He's getting paid anyway. That said it's so close to the 15th that we may as well wait until we see everybody who is released before making any decisions.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
Interesting. Several people earlier mentioned Mutombo for the MLE and I wasn't so thrilled, but with everyone coming off the board I'm willing to give him half of the MLE as I do think he could help DJ and the Mavs in the playoffs. Of course he isn't the athletic guy the Mavs have been talking about.
And I'm okay with Christie too, but why $3 million? He's getting paid anyway. That said it's so close to the 15th that we may as well wait until we see everybody who is released before making any decisions.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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How's come he hopes to sign a contract next week, but he won't do anything until he visits, and he won't visit until the 22nd?
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That part confused me as well.
I wonder what sights they'll be checking out besides the AAC. Will Mrs. Chrisite want to check out the shopping at the Galleria? Does she know this is the strip club capital of the United States? Will she demand to see next year's Mavs Dancer squad? Will she want to make sure MavsMan is not really a MavsWoman underneath that suit? Will somebody warn her about the scores of ample, augmented boobs that will be occupying the Club Level seats on game night?
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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How's come he hopes to sign a contract next week, but he won't do anything until he visits, and he won't visit until the 22nd?
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That part confused me as well.
I wonder what sights they'll be checking out besides the AAC. Will Mrs. Chrisite want to check out the shopping at the Galleria? Does she know this is the strip club capital of the United States? Will she demand to see next year's Mavs Dancer squad? Will she want to make sure MavsMan is not really a MavsWoman underneath that suit? Will somebody warn her about the scores of ample, augmented boobs that will be occupying the Club Level seats on game night?
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08-11-2005, 12:31 PM
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
I sort of glimpse through this thread and I think V2M might've brought it up but why in the hell are we giving him 3 million? I thought this guy was a free agent that we were trying ot obtain. He's been cut by the Magic so he will still see his 8 million. No part of our mid-level exception should be used to get such a question mark. I'm telling you guys right now that there are going to be a lot of guys outt here who will get cut who can come in and contribute for the Mavs right now and we should try to put off on using that mid-level as much as we can. We give Christie 3 mill and that leaves us with how much of our mid-level? Is it 4.9 or 5.9 this year?
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
I sort of glimpse through this thread and I think V2M might've brought it up but why in the hell are we giving him 3 million? I thought this guy was a free agent that we were trying ot obtain. He's been cut by the Magic so he will still see his 8 million. No part of our mid-level exception should be used to get such a question mark. I'm telling you guys right now that there are going to be a lot of guys outt here who will get cut who can come in and contribute for the Mavs right now and we should try to put off on using that mid-level as much as we can. We give Christie 3 mill and that leaves us with how much of our mid-level? Is it 4.9 or 5.9 this year?
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RE: Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
Dikembe would be the best move we could hope for through free agency...that dude STILL has game.
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RE: Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
Dikembe would be the best move we could hope for through free agency...that dude STILL has game.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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Dikembe would be the best move we could hope for through free agency...that dude STILL has game.
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Yea i'm not trying to bash Christie here or say he's done because I rarely saw him last season if at all but does he have anything at all left in the tank? I thought after last season he would retire. I'm about to hop on the Mutombo bandwaggon as well. I don't see how any Mavs fan can't after his showing against us in the first round. May have been the best center on the floor for both teams.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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Yea i'm not trying to bash Christie here or say he's done because I rarely saw him last season if at all but does he have anything at all left in the tank? I thought after last season he would retire. I'm about to hop on the Mutombo bandwaggon as well. I don't see how any Mavs fan can't after his showing against us in the first round. May have been the best center on the floor for both teams.
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08-11-2005, 12:36 PM
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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Christie would also replace Michael Finley, whom the Mavs are expected to waive by Monday, barring an unexpected trade
that is the first thing I have heard from the dallas media that a trade in "UNEXPECTED". They have told us about trades on the table and that mike was wanted in the form of a trade. I know we are going to lose fin but with no comp. on a back to back year with nash is not a good thing. As many times as i sat there cusing fin out through my tv I will be sad when this day comes regardless of any comp we do or don't get. Fin was a great player for this team for a long time and i for one will greatly miss him.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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Christie would also replace Michael Finley, whom the Mavs are expected to waive by Monday, barring an unexpected trade
that is the first thing I have heard from the dallas media that a trade in "UNEXPECTED". They have told us about trades on the table and that mike was wanted in the form of a trade. I know we are going to lose fin but with no comp. on a back to back year with nash is not a good thing. As many times as i sat there cusing fin out through my tv I will be sad when this day comes regardless of any comp we do or don't get. Fin was a great player for this team for a long time and i for one will greatly miss him.
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08-11-2005, 12:40 PM
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RE: Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
I assume whoever his going to our starting SG next year will be "replacing" Finley. Christie will simply be a nice back-up, but I don't see how he replaces any of the things we lose WHEN Fin is released.
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RE: Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
I assume whoever his going to our starting SG next year will be "replacing" Finley. Christie will simply be a nice back-up, but I don't see how he replaces any of the things we lose WHEN Fin is released.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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Dikembe would be the best move we could hope for through free agency...that dude STILL has game.
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If Avery is going to play half court ball, then Mutombo could compete with Dampier for the starting job and in the process, make Dampier a better player.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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Dikembe would be the best move we could hope for through free agency...that dude STILL has game.
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If Avery is going to play half court ball, then Mutombo could compete with Dampier for the starting job and in the process, make Dampier a better player.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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I sort of glimpse through this thread and I think V2M might've brought it up but why in the hell are we giving him 3 million? I thought this guy was a free agent that we were trying ot obtain. He's been cut by the Magic so he will still see his 8 million. No part of our mid-level exception should be used to get such a question mark. I'm telling you guys right now that there are going to be a lot of guys outt here who will get cut who can come in and contribute for the Mavs right now and we should try to put off on using that mid-level as much as we can. We give Christie 3 mill and that leaves us with how much of our mid-level? Is it 4.9 or 5.9 this year?
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What happened to using the MLE to get Steven Hunter? Apparently I haven't been keeping up lately.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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I sort of glimpse through this thread and I think V2M might've brought it up but why in the hell are we giving him 3 million? I thought this guy was a free agent that we were trying ot obtain. He's been cut by the Magic so he will still see his 8 million. No part of our mid-level exception should be used to get such a question mark. I'm telling you guys right now that there are going to be a lot of guys outt here who will get cut who can come in and contribute for the Mavs right now and we should try to put off on using that mid-level as much as we can. We give Christie 3 mill and that leaves us with how much of our mid-level? Is it 4.9 or 5.9 this year?
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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I assume whoever his going to our starting SG next year will be "replacing" Finley. Christie will simply be a nice back-up, but I don't see how he replaces any of the things we lose WHEN Fin is released.
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It's just replacing offense with defense. I'm not opposed to bringing Christie in, but not to start. I'm assuming Stackhouse will be the starter, something that I think the Mavs would have done this year even if Finley remained. Now if Christie is going to be a major rotation guy what does this do to Daniels? I realize I'm in the minority here but I still think Marquis has game. I want him to be at worst the #2 SG this year. If not why keep him? If the Mavs opinion of him is low then by all means trade him. Burying him this season won't help his trade value.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
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I assume whoever his going to our starting SG next year will be "replacing" Finley. Christie will simply be a nice back-up, but I don't see how he replaces any of the things we lose WHEN Fin is released.
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It's just replacing offense with defense. I'm not opposed to bringing Christie in, but not to start. I'm assuming Stackhouse will be the starter, something that I think the Mavs would have done this year even if Finley remained. Now if Christie is going to be a major rotation guy what does this do to Daniels? I realize I'm in the minority here but I still think Marquis has game. I want him to be at worst the #2 SG this year. If not why keep him? If the Mavs opinion of him is low then by all means trade him. Burying him this season won't help his trade value.
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RE: Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
dirno - I agree with you. It's going to take more than $2mm to get Mutombo here. I think Dallas should offer Mutombo a 2 year MLE deal and try and convince Christie to take vet minimum. Because of the offset, Christie only stands to make $1.68 million even on a $3 million deal. Christie won't make a whole lot more by taking more than the vet minimum, and frankly I view Mutombo as an absolute necessity and Christie as a luxury at this point.
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RE: Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
dirno - I agree with you. It's going to take more than $2mm to get Mutombo here. I think Dallas should offer Mutombo a 2 year MLE deal and try and convince Christie to take vet minimum. Because of the offset, Christie only stands to make $1.68 million even on a $3 million deal. Christie won't make a whole lot more by taking more than the vet minimum, and frankly I view Mutombo as an absolute necessity and Christie as a luxury at this point.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
I agree with KG about the pursuit of Deke. I've always sort of viewd him as a longshot to come here, but I'd love to have him. He's still one of the best post defenders and rebounders in the league without question. I wish I thought it was more realistic to get him...
As for Christie, I've been on this bandwagon for a while. I don't see a downside. He knows how to play, and he can do a lot of things to help a team. He takes a lot of grief about his family life, and I'll be the first to say that I don't know anything about his home life. But I think it's actually kind of cool that he puts his family first, and that he loves his wife.
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RE:Vetern Christie Weighing Future with Mavs
I agree with KG about the pursuit of Deke. I've always sort of viewd him as a longshot to come here, but I'd love to have him. He's still one of the best post defenders and rebounders in the league without question. I wish I thought it was more realistic to get him...
As for Christie, I've been on this bandwagon for a while. I don't see a downside. He knows how to play, and he can do a lot of things to help a team. He takes a lot of grief about his family life, and I'll be the first to say that I don't know anything about his home life. But I think it's actually kind of cool that he puts his family first, and that he loves his wife.
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