Avery's a jerk...and 4 game series. - Page 2 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

mavsjunkie · 06-19-2006, 01:31 AM

Let's see what all you pussies will say when we finally win this. Then all of you idiots will be praising Avery. If you want to get on someone, how about Dirk and his soft scared play.

Wade is showing the Metroplex and the Mavs fans what a true Super Star is. A true Super Star is someone who doesn't miss a free throw when the game is on the line. A super Star is someone who doesn't let some spare named Haslem push him around. A true super star is supposed to hit his opened jump shots and 3's.

Wade didn't miss any of that stuff. You idiots are looking at the wrong person to blame. How about for once, you jump on the crispy clean Dirk Nowitzki who can do no wrong, and how about you get on his ass and tell him to grow some balls and take the freaking ball to the hole, and stop missing open shots. Wade is supposed to be suspect from outside, but he's out classing Dirk in every aspect of the game.

Wade goes thru 3 people and still manages to get to the hole tonight even though he didn't get fouled, he got there, and yet Dirk can't hit an open 3 or foul shot. So IMO, screw Dirk!!!

WraithXx · 06-19-2006, 01:33 AM

ocelot_ark, just shut the fuck up. seriously.

zico · 06-19-2006, 01:34 AM

Our offense sucks.
Why not playing some orthodox offense.
We should stop utilizing Dampier and Diop for too many screens. Let them play at the post in offense and move the ball side to side, and made Howard, Stackhouse, Terry cut without the ball and when they are in good position pass the ball to them.
Stop the overdribbling and trying to drive in the paint after using a screen, it's way too predictable.

turbo.mav · 06-19-2006, 01:35 AM

ES was asking for it. He's a spare anyways. That "play dumb" move is so lame and when questioned he acted as if he didn't know what basketball was. As Murphy said, the situation could have been ended immediately. Sure Avery somewhat overreacted with the stuttering comment, but anyone would be pissed in this situation and I think I remember Eddie pissing him off earlier in the year as well with one of those cheap questions.

ocelot_ark · 06-19-2006, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WraithXx

ocelot_ark, just shut the fuck up. seriously.

No.

Avery's actions tonight were uncalled for. Any civilized person could see that. You treat others with respect. He didn't do that.

I'm making no claims that he's a bad coach or that he's costing us this series. I'm saying that, as a person, he sucked tonight.

Dtownsfinest · 06-19-2006, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FINtastic

Just make sure you don't lump him in with the real classless ones. Avery has carried himself with a lot of class during his year and 3 months here. He screwed up in a way tonight, but hey no one is perfect.

Yea I agree. It was a goof up on AJ's part. I'm not accustom to seeing it from AJ which is why i'm not ragging on him too hard.

AxdemxO · 06-19-2006, 01:40 AM

Some fuken people on here are sooooo FUKING IGNORANT becasue wht do they do thE whole year thet build AJ up up up aNd now those same people are bringing him down. The only fault AJ has made is playing Harris too much and from there the rest of the team deserves the blame. In fact its not that the team deserves the blame ..BUT HAS ANY1 THOUGH ABOUT GIVING MIAMI SOME CREDIT....or are you guys too good for tht

WraithXx · 06-19-2006, 01:40 AM

whatever you say, "white boys"

ocelot_ark · 06-19-2006, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WraithXx

whatever you say, "white boys"

And what the fuck is that supposed to mean?

WraithXx · 06-19-2006, 01:53 AM

sig.

ocelot_ark · 06-19-2006, 01:55 AM

Well no shit. But what are you incinuating with that comment?

Dtownsfinest · 06-19-2006, 01:57 AM

Sigh. That's the second time tonight someone has brought race into a discussion where it was uncalled for. People are losing their minds tonight. I think if the Mavs don't win a championship this year I have a reason to fear for my life. Guys are really losing it.

bigdgridiron · 06-19-2006, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by WraithXx

whatever you say, "white boys"

Yeah...what the hell is that supposed to mean?

Allie · 06-19-2006, 02:01 AM

So now some here are jumping on Avery after his comments tonite. Boo hoo....all of you. Maybe Avery is getting just a little sick of the NBA against the Mavs. Maybe he just said what he felt to the reporter. Avery was not out of line at all.

ocelot_ark · 06-19-2006, 02:03 AM

The people who approve of the way avery acted tonight...also approve of the way Mark Cuban dresses.

chumdawg · 06-19-2006, 02:05 AM

Avery has a hard-on for Eddie Sefko. That much is established.

Tonight he tried to undress him like he tried to undress him in the wake of Sefko's article about Johnson's "tirade" after the Orlando game.

In the first instance, Avery was trying to get one back, so to speak. That's okay.

But tonight, Avery was gutless. Sefko's question was nowhere near out of bounds. It's the exact question any of us would have asked in that same situation. And Avery's gutless ass refused to answer it.

WraithXx · 06-19-2006, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdgridiron

Yeah...what the hell is that supposed to mean?

it means no worries for the rest of your days

it's our problem free

philosophy...

hakuna matata.

jthig32 · 06-19-2006, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Avery has a hard-on for Eddie Sefko. That much is established.

Tonight he tried to undress him like he tried to undress him in the wake of Sefko's article about Johnson's "tirade" after the Orlando game.

In the first instance, Avery was trying to get one back, so to speak. That's okay.

But tonight, Avery was gutless. Sefko's question was nowhere near out of bounds. It's the exact question any of us would have asked in that same situation. And Avery's gutless ass refused to answer it.

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I agree. If anything, Sefko was giving Avery a chance to voice his displeasure about the call, without him having to go on a tirade himself.

Now granted, Sefko probably wanted a juicy quote that would have drawn a fine, but Avery could have easily said what we all know he thought and still staid inside the bounds.

ocelot_ark · 06-19-2006, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Avery has a hard-on for Eddie Sefko. That much is established.

Tonight he tried to undress him like he tried to undress him in the wake of Sefko's article about Johnson's "tirade" after the Orlando game.

In the first instance, Avery was trying to get one back, so to speak. That's okay.

But tonight, Avery was gutless. Sefko's question was nowhere near out of bounds. It's the exact question any of us would have asked in that same situation. And Avery's gutless ass refused to answer it.

As a matter of fact, if Sefko had NOT asked that question, someone else would have. Would AJ answer the question then?

If this was all just an attempt to get back at Sefko...wow. That's just pathetic. One of my biggest problems with religion (And one of the reasons I've been very cynical about it the past 5 years) is how religious leaders don't practice what they preach. If AJ, as a minister, can't get past something like that and let it go...why even try?

sike · 06-19-2006, 02:09 AM

not classy. but I don't think AJ is a jerk...even nice guys are jerks from time to time.

bigdgridiron · 06-19-2006, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WraithXx

it means no worries for the rest of your days

it's our problem free

philosophy...

hakuna matata.

Nice cover...what an ass...have some balls, dude...it was a total racist statement and now you're trying to back-peddle...

Weak.

Drbio · 06-19-2006, 02:10 AM

Eddie Sefko can suck a turd. What a spare.

FINtastic · 06-19-2006, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Avery could have easily said what we all know he thought and still staid inside the bounds.

Doubt it. We all know the NBA becomes super-sensitive after a game like this. Almost anything he said would be very likely subject to a fine. There is very little that is "in-bounds" in a situation like this.

jesusphreak · 06-19-2006, 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ocelot_ark

As a matter of fact, if Sefko had NOT asked that question, someone else would have. Would AJ answer the question then?

If this was all just an attempt to get back at Sefko...wow. That's just pathetic. One of my biggest problems with religion (And one of the reasons I've been very cynical about it the past 5 years) is how religious leaders don't practice what they preach. If AJ, as a minister, can't get past something like that and let it go...why even try?

Since when is AJ a minister?

FINtastic · 06-19-2006, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

But tonight, Avery was gutless. Sefko's question was nowhere near out of bounds. It's the exact question any of us would have asked in that same situation. And Avery's gutless ass refused to answer it.

I certainly wouldn't have asked such a trivial and useless question that I already know the answer to. You are saying you would? Sefko went in for what he thought was an easy dunk, and he got Stackhoused.

Dtownsfinest · 06-19-2006, 02:14 AM

You know what though I have to be honest. I think AJ's true colors are finally coming out. You heard a couple of tidbits about AJ having fits all year long. I think last game was the final straw. He had a couple of comments on ESPN 1033 Friday that had me thinking the comments were very uncharacteristic for Avery. Very similiar to his comments tonight against Sefko. He used the same tone.

ocelot_ark · 06-19-2006, 02:15 AM

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Since when is AJ a minister?

I don't know when he was ordained...but I'm almost certain that he is. Anyone care to confirm?

FINtastic · 06-19-2006, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ocelot_ark

One of my biggest problems with religion (And one of the reasons I've been very cynical about it the past 5 years) is how religious leaders don't practice what they preach. If AJ, as a minister, can't get past something like that and let it go...why even try?

Since when are members of religious organizations perfect? AJ is about as classy as they come. If you are going to jump on a guy for one mistake, you certainly aren't going to find many people to look up to. Everyone has skeletons in their closet.

mavs_own · 06-19-2006, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ocelot_ark

I don't know when he was ordained...but I'm almost certain that he is. Anyone care to confirm?

He's a damn Saint in my book.

JonG · 06-19-2006, 02:16 AM

Since when does everyone give a shit about Eddie Sefko? You all are treating him like he's some saint who deserves to be protected, someone we should feel sorry for. He's just another member of the media in my book.

Avery wasn't originally trying to give Eddie a hard time, he was just looking for Eddie to come back with something like "I didn't see much contact on the play" or "It looked questionable at best" and Avery would have played on that. When Sefko refused to answer, that's when Avery chimed in with the "Don't stutter now" comment that has so many of you sending 'get well' cards to Sefko.

I guess the claim is Sefko has to 'maintain his journalistic integrity' but how hard is it to give your impression on a particular play? Is Sefko not allowed to offer any kind of opinion at all? Sefko should have played along. He chose not to. End of story.

ocelot_ark · 06-19-2006, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by FINtastic

Since when are members of religious organizations perfect? AJ is about as classy as they come. If you are going to jump on a guy for one mistake, you certainly aren't going to find many people to look up to. Everyone has skeletons in their closet.

Yes. But there were two roads. AJ chose the road that led to the humiliation of another person. In front of millions of people. I'm just saying that he shouldn't have done that.

FINtastic · 06-19-2006, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

You know what though I have to be honest. I think AJ's true colors are finally coming out. You heard a couple of tidbits about AJ having fits all year long. I think last game was the final straw. He had a couple of comments on ESPN 1033 Friday that had me thinking the comments were very uncharacteristic for Avery. Very similiar to his comments tonight against Sefko. He used the same tone.

How many "mean" coaches let their players' kids come sleep over? Everyone has bad moments under pressure. Avery is a fiery guy. He may let his emotions overcome him at times, but without his passion, most of you guys probably wouldn't have much use for Avery because he would be a lousy head coach.

WraithXx · 06-19-2006, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bigdgridiron

Nice cover...what an ass...have some balls, dude...it was a total racist statement and now you're trying to back-peddle...

Weak.

have some balls? for what? for you to suck them, you asshat?

my sig isn't the one that says "white boys", is it? I was just saying that because it's in the dude's sig

now get off my balls and sing some Lion King

FINtastic · 06-19-2006, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ocelot_ark

Yes. But there were two roads. AJ chose the road that led to the humiliation of another person. In front of millions of people. I'm just saying that he shouldn't have done that.

You've never, EVER, humiliated another person? Sure you haven't done it in front of a million people, you probably haven't had the chance to do so.

Avery did a wrong tonight. It doesn't make him a bad person, and it especially isn't indicative of how Christians are bad, hypocritical people.

Dtownsfinest · 06-19-2006, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FINtastic

How many "mean" coaches let their players' kids come sleep over? Everyone has bad moments under pressure. Avery is a fiery guy. He may let his emotions overcome him at times, but without his passion, most of you guys probably wouldn't have much use for Avery because he would be a lousy head coach.

No i'm not saying he's mean or that he's a bad guy. But tonight i'm thinking is just the real AJ. I think for most of the season he's been holding his tongue. Actually he's said this on Friday on ESPN 1033. Not quoting him but he said something along the lines of he's usually quiet about the NBA but this is ridiculous. I'm noticing him to show more fire. Show a bit of a mean streak. All i'm saying is if we get another one of these "tantrums" from AJ don't be surprised. Let's hope we won't have to see another since that would mean we would be kicked out of the playoffs.

chumdawg · 06-19-2006, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by FINtastic

I certainly wouldn't have asked such a trivial and useless question that I already know the answer to. You are saying you would? Sefko went in for what he thought was an easy dunk, and he got Stackhoused.

Clearly you and I have different understandings about a journalist's role. I wish you the best.

ocelot_ark · 06-19-2006, 02:23 AM

Oh, I don't think AJ's a bad person at ALL. I'm simply stating that he made a mistake tonight. Some people here can't differentiate from the two.

And the Christianity thing is a whole other issue that I don't care to get into.

SlimBig · 06-19-2006, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsFanFinley

I don't even like Sefko but AJ displayed what a complete asshole he is. I was embarassed and appalled at the way he acted. He kept attacking Sefko but that "don't stutter" comment was uncalled for.

I turned it off after that.

Sick of the AJ hate on this board. AJ's been a class act since he's been here and you guys think "his true colors" are out now after a heartbreaking, frustrating loss? Gimme a freakin' break man.

Nash13 · 06-19-2006, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ocelot_ark

I don't know when he was ordained...but I'm almost certain that he is. Anyone care to confirm?

Yes he is. A friend of mine has seen him preach at church services. And he also preached at MegaFest last year in Atlanta, which is a Christian conference and concert performances from celebrities in the Christian world. He also has a sermon for sale somewhere online.

As to his comments, it was funny. I don't think he was classless or is a jerk.

WraithXx · 06-19-2006, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ocelot_ark

Oh, I don't think AJ's a bad person at ALL. I'm simply stating that he made a mistake tonight. Some people here can't differentiate from the two.

And the Christianity thing is a whole other issue that I don't care to get into.

Fine. I'll give you a "maybe" so that we can all move on

Quick question though. As Mav fan to Mav fan.... who made a bigger mistake? Avery? or Bennett F***ing Salvatore?