New coach possibilities

[yahyes]

Carisle would work right now cause of the system were stuck in but you never know if dantoni a young nelly wanna be may be jobless and come over here. pick and rolls with dirk and kidd would be sick!

[Arne]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ukj6Qi5W_k&NR=1

I have never seen this guy coach a basketball game, but I like him.. :-)

[Kidd Karma]

Jordan would be the perfect fit. He was the mind behind the motion/princeton offense in NJ. Lawrence Frank was the D-Coordinator during the Byron era. The amount of work was where Scott was criticized, reportedly by Kidd inside the lockerroom in Memphis. How Scott runs his staff should not be any players business. Anyhow. I think the new guy has to be an experienced coach. He can bring in coordinators to run both sides of the ball. So choosing to be an offensive or defensive team should not have any bearing on the new coach. I think experience helps, hands off helps, good repoire with any player helps. I think they have to implement styles of play, given the personnel. Can this new coach make that adjustment, very important detail? D'Antoni could not do it with Shaq. I rule D'Antoni out right there, he has to be able to get point in the paint, given the best 2 players in the league, he couldn't do it. Carlisle, don't know much about it, reminds me of Skiles, I'd say pass on Carlisle. I think Bird would actually be the best candidate to run the team, he will hire good people for both sides of the ball. Paul Silas has known Kidd for a while. I think he was an assistant in PHX, he and his wife were witnesses at Kidd and Joumana's wedding ceremony. But as a hoops coach, why did Cleveland unload him after 1 year with Lebron? This is where I prefer a guy that can command the respect of the lockerroom, I feel this is more valuable than his knowledge of X's and O's.

[dirno2000]

Originally Posted by ProdigyDub

We don't want Adelman. We'd get tired of him just like all the Blazers fans where I grew up got tired of him.

I've heard you say that before. I've always considered him a very good coach.

You know as well as anybody (you've talked about it) that there's a lot of subjectivity involved when it comes to fans grading a coaches performance. At the end of the day, we judge him by the way his team performs relative to our perceptions of that teams ability. Of course that second part is where opinions get divided.

Home town fans generally have a high opinon of the team and, by extension, tend to be the hardest on the coach. There are people on this board who have convincd themselves (or been convinced) that Avery Johnson isn't even a competent coach dispite all his accomplishments. My guess is that when he finally lands the fans in that city will be pleased and they'll percieve him a lot differently than we do.

That's kind of my long winded way of saying that maybe you and the Blazer fans were a little hard on Adleman .

[Flip41]

Originally Posted by littlelibo

He runs the system from his days at New Jersey... seems like a fit for Kidd. Is he on the hot seat?

From what Ive heard he doesnt get along with the Washington GM Grunfeld. He seems like a perfect fit to me too. I said that we should hire Dan Tony in another thread, but now the more I think about it I wish I could take that post back. Too much mustache.

[monty55555]

Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Jordan would be the perfect fit. He was the mind behind the motion/princeton offense in NJ. Lawrence Frank was the D-Coordinator during the Byron era.

We both seem to know this quite well.

[sike]

Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Jordan would be the perfect fit.

I wouldn't mind that at all....a motion offense would be very interesting with Kidd in the mix...depending on who goes and who stays...I know I'd love Dirk with Kidd in motion.

[monty55555]

Originally Posted by sike

I wouldn't mind that at all....a motion offense would be very interesting with Kidd in the mix...

And believe me... Eddie Jordan will make Bass look like KMart during his KMart All-Star days. Just imagine this... Kidd backboard pass to the trailing Brandon Bass for the 2 handed dunk. Or anyone who can dunk for that matter. How nice.

[Alykhan04]

I'm sure it's already been said above, but if the Suns fire Mike, Cuban should hire him and bring back Del.

[sike]

Originally Posted by monty55555

And believe me... Eddie Jordan will make Bass look like KMart during his KMart All-Star days. Just imagine this... Kidd backboard pass to the trailing Brandon Bass for the 2 handed dunk. Or anyone who can dunk for that matter. How nice.

What about Jordan's weaknesses as a defensive mind? Do we just trust in Del?

[monty55555]

Originally Posted by sike

What about Jordan's weaknesses as a defensive mind? Do we just trust in Del?

As Kidd Karma has noted, during Eddie Jordan's stint in NJ as an assistant coach (while Byron Scott was head coach), it was Lawrence Frank who took much of the responsibility on the defensive side while Jordan fueled the offensive side. There is no doubt in my mind that Eddie Jordan will be a great offensive coach, but on the defensive side, I'm quite wary.

Who do you think would be a good defensive minded assistant coach?

[dangirwin]

I dont see why youd hire a coach for Kidd who has one year left and might be traded anyways.

Dantoni, Jordon, or Carlisle. (Bird...hmmm)

d

[craggmac]

Is Rudy T available?

[monty55555]

Originally Posted by dangirwin

I dont see why youd hire a coach for Kidd who has one year left and might be traded anyways.

Dantoni, Jordon, or Carlisle. (Bird...hmmm)

d

I'm not saying you should hire a coach for one player's abilities. I'm just saying that Eddie Jordan would be one coach who could maximize Kidd's potential.

[alexamenos]

mike dan tony

my god.

on one hand i think it makes perfect sense -- best case scenario, the mavs line-up next season will look like a weaker version of dan tony's Suns.

still...the siren song of fast break small ball should be ignored.

[FINtastic]

Ditka.

Nothing else needs to be said.

[jthig32]

I would be very, very intersted in Eddie Jordan if he was willing to bring Del back for the defense.

[LonghornDub]

You guys really think there's any chance the Wizards will can Eddie Jordan? I don't really have my finger on the pulse of that situation.

[Flip41]

Originally Posted by ProdigyDub

You guys really think there's any chance the Wizards will can Eddie Jordan? I don't really have my finger on the pulse of that situation.

I have just read it one of Fish's articles and I heard it could be a possibility from Cooperstien from 103.3.

[Evilmav2]

I know this will sound like it's coming out of left field, but Kelvin Sampson is currently available, and might not be a terrible option as head coach. He obviously has no NBA experience, but he's a hell of an individual motivator and he's also a superb X's and O's coach, and whereas I personally really wouldn't want Cuban looking at college guys to fill Avery's shoes, it really wouldn't surprise me if he did, and if that was the case, I'd say that we could do a heckuva lot worse than Big Kelvin Sampson (and at least he can't get into trouble for recruiting violations in the NBA ). I'd say that if he was surrounded by old NBA hands (like Del), Sampson might just have the personal presence and extensive technical experience that might translate very well into the NBA...

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by mavsjunkie

Is there any new blood out there?

We tried new blood. I want some old blood now.

[horse900703]

about sun's Mike D'Antoni?
u will get fire too i guess, and Aj will be sun's coach!
lol~~

[rakesh.s]

paul westphal

[TomThaMavsFan]

I'm hoping for D'antoni hopefully the Suns let him go , but i'm thinking either Westphal or Elie will get the coaching job.

[twelli]

Originally Posted by nikeball

Alby brought up the name Larry Legend.

That idea crossed my mind too. I doubt he want to coach again, but maybe he's itching to get closer to the action again.

Westphal might be the easiest solution, cause he probably knows best what's wrong with the team, or is he part of the problem?

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by ProdigyDub

You guys really think there's any chance the Wizards will can Eddie Jordan? I don't really have my finger on the pulse of that situation.

I've definitely heard a lot of talk that the team is going to undergo pretty big changes after losing in the first round.

I haven't heard anything specific about Jordan, other than random mentions from people in this area today.

[jthig32]

People need to stop mentioning Larry Bird. He's the president of the Pacers, and Donnie Walsh just left, leaving Bird as the defacto GM as well, which he may have been already.

Why would the president of the Pacers leave to be the coach of the Mavs?

[antoinewalker]

jeff van gundy!

[foglemann]

Minor roster changes(meaning not trading Kidd/Dirk) I expect to see Del or Westphal.

Major roster changes(meaning trading Dik/Kidd) I expect to see a total change in everything.

But, I need to ask one thing, CUBAN, please get in a suite.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Carlisle, Carlisle, Carlisle, and nobody but Carlisle.

IMO, Carlisle isn't just the best option; he's the only the option. Please, no Bobby Knight or anyone else without NBA experience. No Dan Tony or anyone else. Carlisle.

Edit: And if you can get Del back as an assistant, that would be perfect.

[stoble]

On Mavs talk last night Reggie Miller was brought up. Could it be Miller Time?

[BGMaverick9]

got this from fish on db.com

it's pretty good

The list:

Del Harris:

UPSIDE - He's got 556 career NBA wins. He is a mentor to countless coaches around the world. He had the ear and respect of the owner. He's already making, oh, a million bucks a year or so, so why not bring him out of his Avery-caused semi-retirement? "The Professor'' would have the respect of this team, and would be able to built on what he originally built. He has in his career been lauded as an offensive mind and as a defensive mind. He has an educational background in religion and speaks almost as many languages as Dikembe. He is the author of 'The Mavs Way,' and is in many ways a more loyal, more erudite Nellie, only without the fistful of beer can.

DOWNSIDE - Would this be a backwards move? Don't the Mavs need a fresher start? Does Del, even as a very young 71, really want that first chair?

Eddie Jordan:

UPSIDE - He's a Jason Kidd guy dating from their Jersey days. Will he even need any other credential? He's got to get canned in Washington first (we hear he doesn't mesh with boss Ernie Grunfeld) but if he does, can he bring Agent Zero with him?

DOWNSIDE - How fully committed is Cuban to making this "Kidd's team''?

Mike D'Antoni:

UPSIDE - The Suns need to officially dump him first. When they do, he's the sexiest viable commodity out there. Is he an "offensive guy,' a "fast-pace" guy? Sure, but did you see how quickly he shifted gears when they got Shaq? Shifted gears in a way Avery couldn't/wouldn't do when Kidd came here, BTW.

DOWNSIDE - Mavs fans would have to quit making fun of him for looking like a "Paper Moon''-ish smiling door-to-door Bible salesman.

Jeff Van Gundy:

UPSIDE - Do you believe that defense wins championships? When he worked Mavs games for ABC, he habitually predicted the results of Avery goof-ups before they happened. Either he's Sylvia Browne, or he knows infinitely more about coaching than Dallas' previous job-holder.

DOWNSIDE - We once sat on an airplane next to JVG. He chewed his fingernails down to his wrists. You think Avery is vein-poppingly high-strung?

Rick Carlisle:

UPSIDE - He's experienced, he's disciplined, he's a get-along-guy and, after some time on TV, he's fresh.

DOWNSIDE - He looks too much like "The Cable Guy.''

Paul Westphal:

UPSIDE - He is an NBA head-coaching veteran, coached in an NBA Finals, he is already on the payroll, and he's got an entire suitcase full of offensive ideas - ideas he was brought here to implement - that Avery never allowed him to install. In fact, Paul may not have even unpacked yet. I can absolutely envision Cuban considering the idea of Westphal, assisted by Del Harris. KIDDIRK would thrive.

DOWNSIDE - Is Westphal so unassuming (too unassuming?) that he wasn't able to get his voice heard? Oh, and what the hell caused him to bomb out as a college coach?

Tom Thibodeaux:

UPSIDE - A fine defensive mind who will emerge from this playoffs as The Next Hot Thing.

DOWNSIDE - He's not been a head coach; the Mavs would have to wait until Boston is done, and that figures to be a long wait.

Pat Riley:

UPSIDE - In terms of credentials, credibility, offense, defense, psychology and even selling tickets, Riley's the man.

DOWNSIDE - He shouldn't even be on a realistic list. It ain't happening. Cuban's critics keep saying that "no one wants to coach here'' (same thing the mediots said before Parcells hooked up with Jerry). The only person this obviously applies to is Riles - and that's not because of Cuban, it's because Riley is accustomed to being almost his own owner.

Mario Elle:

UPSIDE - Mavs players are absolutely certain he'll be an NBA head coach someday.

DOWNSIDE - We've seen enough on on-the-job training, thank you.

Darrell Armstrong:

UPSIDE - Like Elle, he's on a fast-track to a top job. When he was in Dallas, he was the team's 15th man and still its leader.

DOWNSIDE - We've seen enough on on-the-job training, thank you. Really, DA is not even retired as active player yet. I'd prefer to give one of these guys their SECOND job someday.

Sam Vincent:

UPSIDE - He is an Avery disciple with Mavs connections who just got fired in Charlotte.

DOWNSIDE - He is an Avery disciple.

[BGMaverick9]

sorry for the double post, the site is being kind of funky right now

[purplefrog]

Originally Posted by jthig32

People need to stop mentioning Larry Bird. He's the president of the Pacers, and Donnie Walsh just left, leaving Bird as the defacto GM as well, which he may have been already.

Why would the president of the Pacers leave to be the coach of the Mavs?

I seem to remember some reports about Bird's relationship with Donnie Walsh and that Walsh's departure might make the Pacers less attractive to Larry. That being said, I just searched the news archives around the time Walsh accepted the Knicks job and it seems Bird plans to stay and take on the challenge of running the entire Pacers organization.

[BGMaverick9]

after hearing everything today from Avery to Cuban to Stein and Co.
I think your list is going to be

If they're fired/released:
D'Antoni, Eddie Jordan

If they want to take the job:
JVG/Carlisle

I really don't think Del or Westphal are going to be options.

[twelli]

I like the Westphal/Del Harris combination. A soft spoken guy would be a good change after the little general. We really need to milk the Dirk/Kidd combo. I think Del Harris is done as head coach. If you want a septuagenarian, I'd rather try Lenny Wilkens.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Again, Carlisle's the only guy that makes sense to me. Knows how to coach both sides of the game, is young, fresh, and experienced.

[bradleywillcrushyou44]

Van Gundy it

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by bradleywillcrushyou44

Van Gundy it

Good god, Van Gundy would be as bad as Avery. No thanks.

[HexNBA]

Whats with the Carisle love here? What's he ever done that makes people want him to coach this team. To me, he's all system too, my way or highway type coach that made Avery such a douche. Of course, even that would be a better solution than Mark apparently wanting to put Donnie on the sidelines (per ESPN)