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Old 08-27-2008, 12:35 AM   #41
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I don't believe you.

No way TO lasted till the 3rd.
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:39 AM   #42
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I don't believe you.

No way TO lasted till the 3rd.
Yep. 6 Person league. Went like this --

1) LT
2) AP
3) Barber
4) S-jax
5) Westbrook
6) Moss

7) Addai
8) Brady
9) Gore
10) Romo
11) LJ
12) Portis

13) Grant
14) B. Edwards
15) TO
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Old 08-27-2008, 12:45 AM   #43
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In that case, quite shrewd drafting by you!
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It's a throwaway league, so it'd be pretty funny if I actually won. I was sweating it at pick 15, because I was sure the guy at 14 would take TO and break up my all-Cowboys dream.
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Yeah, I might've thought about loading up on the WR as well. Even if it's not a PPR league you're getting more bang with the buck with the WR vs that next tier or RBs. Maroney MIGHT have been an option b/c who knows really what the Pats are going to do this year. You can validate either route, going with Graham or going for the WR. You can never have enough talent, even at one position. People will need to grab it from you and they'll possibly be willing to give a king's ransom for it.

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Yeah, I'm a little worried about Graham. Brandon Jacobs went right before I picked. Here are the picks after Graham and before I drafted again:

Holt
McGahee
Witten
Eli Manning
Steve Smith
Roy Williams
Chris Chambers
Maroney
Palmer
Gates
Willie Parker
Roethlisberger
Santonio Holmes
Anquan Boldin

The next RB's drafted were:

McFadden
Ronnie Brown
Mike Turner
Selvin Young
Edge James

I'm not a fan of McGahee or Maroney. I wouldn't touch Parker right now with a ten foot pole. So, there wasn't just a whole lot to choose from at that point, unless I wanted to load up with another receiver (which maybe I should have done). The one thing bugging me is that McFadden was available when I selected Roddy White. I do love Roddy White, and this is a PPR league where WR's are more valuable than RB's, but perhaps I made a mistake there. What do you think the best strategy would have been? I had Jackson and Edwards and Marshall at that point...PPR league with two WR's, two RB's, and a flex.
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That's what she said.

What is an auction style?
you get x number of dollars and everyone bids on players instead of having a draft. ive never done one but i think it would be better than a draft.
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:02 AM   #47
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My fantasy team for work..

10 player league

QB TD = 6 pts
.2 PP Completion
.2 PP Rush
.5 PP Reception
everything else is pretty standard


QB: Romo
RB: LT
RB: MJD
WR: Welker
WR: L. Coles
WR: S. Moss
TE: Gates
K: Josh Brown
Def: Pittsburg

Bench:
David Garrard
Willis Mcgahee
Julius Jones
Javon Walker
Kevin Curtis
Derrick Mason
Baltimore

I think this team is really solid...except for some WRs. But in a PPR league...I think the WR I have are solid..but in other leagues..not so much. Yahoo predicts I have 2nd most points, trailing only the leader by 1.5 points.
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That's pretty solid. They are good WRs for PPR. They are very possession-based guys, they keep the drives alive. LT and MJD is an awesome combo. Nice work.
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Old 08-31-2008, 12:20 AM   #49
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2nd Fantasy Team (the Croshere Pain Train):

QB - Palmer
QB - Rivers
WR - Fitz
WR - Welker
RB - All-Day Peterson
RB - Gore
TE - Shockey
TE - Watson
W/R - Bush
DEF 1 - Pats
DEF 2 - Jags
K - Bironas
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a 2 defense league? now that's interesting...only 3 wr slots though? there's tons of wr talent out there..petition for another slot

whats next? 2 kickers? haha
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a 2 defense league? now that's interesting...only 3 wr slots though? there's tons of wr talent out there..petition for another slot

whats next? 2 kickers? haha
It's kinda a funky league setup, but, hey, it keeps things fresh.
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I just partook in a very strange draft. I'm picking fourth, and the first three picks are Brady, Manning, Steven Jackson. So I get LT at 4, and Westbrook goes SEVENTH. And this is a league that rewards receiving yards. It's not point per reception, but still, it rewards receiving yards and td's above normal.

Plus, this league was rewarding QB's way above normal, but not the extent of Sike's league. And then to make it weirder, three QB's go in the top 6, and then Romo lasts to the 20th pick (just before me, it was a knife to my heart).

Very very weird.
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I just partook in a very strange draft. I'm picking fourth, and the first three picks are Brady, Manning, Steven Jackson. So I get LT at 4, and Westbrook goes SEVENTH. And this is a league that rewards receiving yards. It's not point per reception, but still, it rewards receiving yards and td's above normal.

Plus, this league was rewarding QB's way above normal, but not the extent of Sike's league. And then to make it weirder, three QB's go in the top 6, and then Romo lasts to the 20th pick (just before me, it was a knife to my heart).

Very very weird.
Hmm....interesting.

That is pretty strange. In a league that rewards receiving yards, two QBs go first. Idiots. You can still get a quality or capable QB in the later rounds (Hassellback, Schaub, McNabb, etc.).

I just finished another draft (CBS Sportsline). Here's my team:

QB: Matt Schaub
RB 1: LT
RB 2: Willie Parker
WR 1: Braylon Edwards
WR 2: Andre Johnson
WR 3: Chris Chambers
TE: Owen Daniels
K: Kris Brown

Bench:

David Garrard
Steve Slaton
Fred Taylor
Reggie Williams
Raiders DST

This team could have been better. A lot more balanced than my first team though . This is a 12-team league.
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I just partook in a very strange draft. I'm picking fourth, and the first three picks are Brady, Manning, Steven Jackson. So I get LT at 4, and Westbrook goes SEVENTH. And this is a league that rewards receiving yards. It's not point per reception, but still, it rewards receiving yards and td's above normal.

Plus, this league was rewarding QB's way above normal, but not the extent of Sike's league. And then to make it weirder, three QB's go in the top 6, and then Romo lasts to the 20th pick (just before me, it was a knife to my heart).

Very very weird.
Who's your QB? I would like to see your entire draft results, if you don't mind sharing.
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I just got back from what was a new experience for me, but one that I highly enjoyed. It was a live draft (meaning in person, in our case at Kerr's Wing House), and also a keeper draft. I found out that this league is 16 years old. Wow! It's a bunch of guys who work at Frito-Lay, including my brother-in-law, who I was partnering with on his expansion team.

Since we didn't have any keepers, being an expansion team, they gave us the first pick in the first three rounds. After that it went serpentine. (Actually, there was one more expansion team, but even though they offered to flip a coin to determine who went first and who went second, he said he wanted to go second...odd.)

So, ten-team league, with two keepers (but they can't be at the same position). Their settings are fairly standard, except that they don't allow fractional points. WR's have to get 40 yards to book any points, and then more points for each ten-yard threshhold after. Same thing with QB's and RB's and TE's (though with different threshholds). It was new to me, and I didn't like it, but it was easy enough to figure out. Oh, and it's a PPR league. Oh, and one more thing. They draft TWENTY rounds!

There had been fifteen players protected, so we essentially had the 16th pick in the draft with our #1 draft choice. We drafted Portis, which I was pleased with at pick 16. Very shortly thereafter (because of keepers) we were up again, and we drafted TO. I was very pleased to nab Portis and TO, being shut out of the top 15 picks, essentially.

Here's what we ended up with:

QB
Roethlisberger
Favre

RB
Portis
Graham
Maroney
Forte
Mendenhall
Rice
Norwood

WR
Owens
Wayne
Coles
Burleson
Mason
Bryant Johnson
Meacham

TE
Owen Daniels
Ben Watson

K
Dawson

DEF
Carolina

Last year they had an expansion team that finished last. I don't expect us to finish last. We rolled the dice on rookie RB's in Forte and Mendenhall and Ray Rice. I also wanted to take Pierre Thomas, but ultimately it came down to Meacham instead of him. I might want this call back.

I don't think we have any chance to win the league, but the live draft was a whole hell of a lot of fun, and we do have some sleeper players with upside.
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McNabb
Reggie Wayne
Jericho Cotchery
LT
McFadden
Tony Gonzalez
Tennesee (punted on defense, scoring really flatlined them)

Bench:
Matt Forte
Selvin Young
Donald Driver
Kurt Warner
Rashart Mendenhall
Ted Ginn Jr.

12 team league, I'm pretty dang happy with that roster. Some very strange stuff going on in that draft. One guy had the worst draft I've ever seen.
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12 team league, I'm pretty dang happy with that roster. Some very strange stuff going on in that draft. One guy had the worst draft I've ever seen.
You did well to score both LT and Tony Gonzalez. If McFadden comes through for you, you will have a shot.

Speaking of bad drafts, a guy in our draft tonight kept Carson Palmer in a keeper league, meaning essentially that he drafted him in the second round. Oh, dear. How bad a play is that? He could have had him in the fifth! He also took Willie Parker in the third. That was pretty damn bad.
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That's a whacky sounding draft, chum. Sounds fun though.

I've still never done a live, IRL draft. I did work with one guy this summer who has been in a league with 7 of his friends from high school for 14 years. Every year they go to Vegas to do their draft, and all 8 of them have gone every year without exception (despite the fact that most of them are very busy white-collar professionals). Sounds kinda like your deal.
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That's a whacky sounding draft, chum. Sounds fun though.

I've still never done a live, IRL draft. I did work with one guy this summer who has been in a league with 7 of his friends from high school for 14 years. Every year they go to Vegas to do their draft, and all 8 of them have gone every year without exception (despite the fact that most of them are very busy white-collar professionals). Sounds kinda like your deal.
Yeah, Saturday when I was golfing I heard from my buddy about a league he is getting into that does the same thing (old buddies travel to the site of the draft). Sounded like fun.

As I said, this was my first IRL draft...but I'm sold on it. Lots of fun, and lots of opportunity to get together afterward and talk trades. We almost consummated one that would have given us Westbrook and Steve Smith for TO and Maroney, but the guy backed down after offering it up to us. (Frustrating!)

There's one league that I've been in for several years that I will try to move toward a live draft in the future. It's just a wholly different vibe.
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I'd love to to an IRL draft, and I'd really love to do a keeper league with a bunch of people I know. I've always thought that would be lots of fun.

I have an online league of basically the same guys that's been together for 7 years now, but it seems like every year it gets less and less competitive, with less and less involvement. Frustrating.

Maybe we should put together a DM.com keeper league next season.

Just in looking at that draft that seems like really good work for where you guys were Chum.
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Well, right out of the shoot with this weird league I have a decision to make.

I have been offered TO and Westbrook for LT and Reggie Wayne.

I'm inclined to take it because I think Wayne is in for a slightly down season, and this league gives a point for every 5 receiving yards instead of the normal 10, putting LT and Westbrook on the same level. They basicallys scored the exact same number of points last season in this system.

But, I already have McNabb as my QB.

Thoughts?
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Maybe we should put together a DM.com keeper league next season.
I've long thought that would be a good idea, and I've posted about it a time or two over the last few years, but the responses were always underwhelming. That said, I think it wouldn't be that hard to run the thing as long as we kept it simple (no more than three keepers per team or so), and as long as all participating managers were committed to be active in the league for the long haul...
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Well, right out of the shoot with this weird league I have a decision to make.

I have been offered TO and Westbrook for LT and Reggie Wayne.

I'm inclined to take it because I think Wayne is in for a slightly down season, and this league gives a point for every 5 receiving yards instead of the normal 10, putting LT and Westbrook on the same level. They basicallys scored the exact same number of points last season in this system.

But, I already have McNabb as my QB.

Thoughts?
Because I fully believe that TO will be a monster this year and I also think Wayne is due for the down year that you mentioned, and because of that weird scoring settting, I would pull the trigger on that deal in a heartbeat, but I would sure be praying that Westbrook's good health streak continues.

Also, having McNabb as your QB might leave your team susceptible to weekly boom and bust cycles because he and Westbrook will be providing you with much of your scoring, but that still wouldn't scare me away. Sadly for your team, I tend to doubt that McNabb will be able to keep himself healthy for this entire upcoming season, so I'd say it's not too unlikely that you will end up playing your QB2 alongside Westbrook in more weeks than you'd prefer this year anyway...
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Yeah, Saturday when I was golfing I heard from my buddy about a league he is getting into that does the same thing (old buddies travel to the site of the draft). Sounded like fun.

As I said, this was my first IRL draft...but I'm sold on it. Lots of fun, and lots of opportunity to get together afterward and talk trades. We almost consummated one that would have given us Westbrook and Steve Smith for TO and Maroney, but the guy backed down after offering it up to us. (Frustrating!)

There's one league that I've been in for several years that I will try to move toward a live draft in the future. It's just a wholly different vibe.
Yeah, the main league I play in has had the same guys in it for 3 years now (all RL buddies), so I'm thinking once we're a little more established in the next couple of years or so I might try to put together a IRL draft. It really sounds like a blast.

Seven of the guys are in Texas, but, unfortunately, the eighth is a Navy officer who will be on a sub for the next 4 years, so we'd probably be leaving him out.
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I've long thought that would be a good idea, and I've posted about it a time or two over the last few years, but the responses were always underwhelming. That said, I think it wouldn't be that hard to run the thing as long as we kept it simple (no more than three keepers per team or so), and as long as all participating managers were committed to be active in the league for the long haul...
Well count me in if you ever decide to try it.
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Well count me in if you ever decide to try it.
It's probably too late, but I'm thinking pretty darned hard about starting a free keeper league up on ESPN at the last minute. Of course the draft would optimally have to take place before the start of the season on Thurs. night, which might be impractical for some, but if anybody reading this would be interested, please PM me or post here, because if we get at least 4 or 5 managers interested, I'll start a league and do my darndest to fill the other spots up before a draft...
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Just drafted my last team in a league with my RL buddies. I think I pretty much tore this draft up. Here's my team (8 team league, PPR):

QB - Derek Anderson
RB - S-Jax
RB - Addai
WR - Andre Johnson
WR - Dwayne Bowe (for the first 2 weeks)
W/R - Michael Turner
TE - Kellen SOULJA Winslow
K - Crosby
DEF - Minnesota

BN - Steve Smith (will start after his 2 game suspension is up, obviously).
BN - Calvin Johnson
BN - Jonathan Stewart
BN - Matt Schaub
BN - Owen Daniels
BN - Selvin Young
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You owned those bitches.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought too. But I wanted to make sure it wasn't just my bias setting in.
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Like CD said, that's a crushingly good draft, Longhorn...
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Here is the team that I just drafted for somebody else (a girl) in a 10 man yahoo league that scores six points per QB touchdown, but otherwise is near standard in scoring:

Starters

QB - Tom Brady
WR - Marques Colston
WR - Megatron (Calvin Johnson)
WR - Anquin Boldin
RB - Kevin Smith
RB - Chris Perry
TE - Dallas Clark
W/T - Patrick Crayton
K - Jeff Reed
DEF - Dallas

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Tony Romo
Jay Cutler
Rashard Mendenhall
Chester Taylor
Ricky Williams
DeAngelo Williams
Chris Henry (WR CIN)

I'm going to help run this team this season, and although I'd say that the team I just drafted is probably a bit too reliant on lottery ticket RB's, I'd still say that it seems insane to me that I was able to draft both Brady and Romo in rounds one and two (with a draft position of 4 out of 10) in a league that counts passing TD's as being worth six points apiece.

Considering the scoring format, I honestly don't know if it would be wiser to trade either Romo or Brady for a hugely valuable package early in the year, or just utilize and sit on them both to weaken the rest of the league (I took Cutler here because I think he will be the 6th or 7th best QB in the league this year, and to provide bye week/injury insurance in the case of a trade of one of Brady/Romo monster pair)...
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Hmm...I would definitely unload either Romo or Brady. That is just wasted points sitting on the bench. Whoever starts out really hot..I would say trade them in first few weeks...because the other one will catch up soon.

Definitely try to get a top tier RB.
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Boy, you are cornering the market on QB's! Way to exploit an opening.
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Hmm...I would definitely unload either Romo or Brady. That is just wasted points sitting on the bench. Whoever starts out really hot..I would say trade them in first few weeks...because the other one will catch up soon.

Definitely try to get a top tier RB.
Considering the fact that I will probably end up doing a lot to run this team on a weekly basis, I'm just wrestling with the question of whether it helps me more to sit on the probable top two fantasy scoring QB's in the league, as well as a guy who I think is guaranteed to be in the top 10- in a league where that 6 pp passing TD rules the scoring format (Brady scored 502.4 points in this format last year, Romo scored 390.40, whereas the top-scoring running back LT scored 342.58)...

The safe play here is to trade either Romo or Brady for elite/good RB help, but I still can't help but think that keeping both of the QB monsters away from the other managers might be the better play (of course, that's only if I can keep the holes plugged effectively in this team's RB situation, and the nice group of WR's I drafted perform as well as I bet they will)...
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Evil, you really love Brady AND Calvin. They always seem to be around you...but not ALL the time, haha.
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Evil, you really love Brady AND Calvin. They always seem to be around you...but not ALL the time, haha.
Hahaha... You are obviously the other big Megatron lover on this board, and you did steal him from me on at least one of our drafts ...


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Considering the fact that I will probably end up doing a lot to run this team on a weekly basis, I'm just wrestling with the question of whether it helps me more to sit on the probable top two fantasy scoring QB's in the league, as well as a guy who I think is guaranteed to be in the top 10- in a league where that 6 pp passing TD rules the scoring format (Brady scored 502.4 points in this format last year, Romo scored 390.40, whereas the top-scoring running back LT scored 342.58)...

The safe play here is to trade either Romo or Brady for elite/good RB help, but I still can't help but think that keeping both of the QB monsters away from the other managers might be the better play (of course, that's only if I can keep the holes plugged effectively in this team's RB situation, and the nice group of WR's I drafted perform as well as I bet they will)...
Yeah, but if you trade Romo for a WR who went ahead of him (I'm guessing TO, maybe?), you balance your team very well.

Tough calls, these! I certainly like your idea of holding the league hostage when you have them cornered. It's probably too early to make a move.
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Considering the fact that I will probably end up doing a lot to run this team on a weekly basis, I'm just wrestling with the question of whether it helps me more to sit on the probable top two fantasy scoring QB's in the league, as well as a guy who I think is guaranteed to be in the top 10- in a league where that 6 pp passing TD rules the scoring format (Brady scored 502.4 points in this format last year, Romo scored 390.40, whereas the top-scoring running back LT scored 342.58)...

The safe play here is to trade either Romo or Brady for elite/good RB help, but I still can't help but think that keeping both of the QB monsters away from the other managers might be the better play (of course, that's only if I can keep the holes plugged effectively in this team's RB situation, and the nice group of WR's I drafted perform as well as I bet they will)...
I would go Nike's route. I'd try to find an owner who desperately needs a QB and has a stud RB or a good RB to spare and won't gut his team. I'm not sure you'll find the team that fits that exact criteria, but it's worth doing the move. You'll always be second guessing yourself each week. It's wasted points on the bench, you can easily move that to fill a need and it won't hurt your roster at all...it's helping it. You just have to find the right deal.

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This is a move you'll want to do eventually. Timing is important, like chum has mentioned. You don't have to rush it, but you'll have to do it eventually.
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