02-19-2009, 08:57 PM
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Soo... Put you down for not liking Stack being activated? ![Smile](images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I'm leaning that direction..
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02-19-2009, 08:58 PM
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Jerry Stackhouse, the next MJ! ![EEK!](images/smilies/eek.gif)
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Marco Jaric?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuTf42__7Ic
lol Eddie Griffen looks.
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02-19-2009, 08:59 PM
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The return of Precambrian Man....
Hide the women...He'll use the basketball to knock them out and then drag them away by their hair... But, 4-5 people on the board will talk about how much fire he brings to the team regardless of how negatively he impacts the team on the court with his play.
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02-19-2009, 09:25 PM
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Somehow, i like Stack. Hope, he makes the comeback
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02-19-2009, 09:31 PM
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![](http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/6485/network1_medium.jpg) about sums it up
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02-19-2009, 10:27 PM
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lol
Re: Kidd's expiring contract, I was more thinking along the lines of a summer sign and trade.
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02-19-2009, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GermanDunk
Somehow, i like Stack. Hope, he makes the comeback
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I like him too, mostly. Just wish he'd stop dribbling the ball off his foot.
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02-19-2009, 11:12 PM
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Glad to have him back. The second unit can really use a scorer.
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02-19-2009, 11:19 PM
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He is the "punch" at the deadline basically. It would be nice to put your eggs in the "He was hobbled and he sucked" basket as an excuse for his poor efforts early in the year. I just don't know how much stock you can put into that. We're going to find out though. I hope he can give us some proactive results.
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02-19-2009, 11:33 PM
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Hopefully stack will bring some much needed.. nah it won't happen.
I mean I really liked stacks tenure here in Dallas but I just think he's been away too long to give any significant contribution.
Prove me wrong stack.
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02-19-2009, 11:48 PM
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I'd rather give the minutes to Ro Blackman than Jerry Stackhouse.
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02-20-2009, 12:16 AM
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I'd rather give the minutes to Ro Blackman than Jerry Stackhouse.
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That would kill our cap flexibility in 2010
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RT @TyLawson3 Good game between Dallas and Portland. Good thing we didn't end up getting Dallas. Coach Karl lost his mind.
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02-20-2009, 12:33 AM
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What if Stack comes out like a baller and scores 20 pts a game.
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02-20-2009, 12:38 AM
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What if Stack comes out like a baller and scores 20 pts a game.
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He sure as hell better or there's going to be a mob uprising at D-M.com
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02-20-2009, 12:49 AM
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He sure as hell better or there's going to be a mob uprising at D-M.com
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It'll still be uncalled for, Stack is still here waaaaaaa waaaaaa...please.
It's not like he falls off the map after this season. You can still trade him + 2 million dollars and whatever and still get something. It's hard to figure when, but EVENTUALLY the market is going to swing in Mark's direction if he really is being a solid buyer.
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02-20-2009, 01:14 AM
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So in the last year and a half the Rockets have: drafted A. Brooks +Landry. Drafted Donte Green(who's a total dog)and traded him and scraps for Ron Artest(one of the best, most versatile defenders in the league). Signed Von Wafer off of waivers(or was that a trade?). Grabbed Luis Scola from the Spurs for scraps. And traded Rafer(a gunner) for Kyle Lowry(one of the best defensive point guards in the game). And signed Brent Barry w/ a portion of their mid-level?
To hell w/ trading Stack. Let's trade Donnie for Daryl Morey. We could even throw in a couple of 1st round picks...
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02-20-2009, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mac222b
So in the last year and a half the Rockets have: drafted A. Brooks +Landry. Drafted Donte Green(who's a total dog)and traded him and scraps for Ron Artest(one of the best, most versatile defenders in the league). Signed Von Wafer off of waivers(or was that a trade?). Grabbed Luis Scola from the Spurs for scraps. And traded Rafer(a gunner) for Kyle Lowry(one of the best defensive point guards in the game). And signed Brent Barry w/ a portion of their mid-level?
To hell w/ trading Stack. Let's trade Donnie for Daryl Morey. We could even throw in a couple of 1st round picks...
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And what has that exactly gotten them thats better then what our team has gotten us??? Umm yeee
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02-20-2009, 01:53 AM
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Good Mary Mother of God... What the F- is the FO thinking?
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02-20-2009, 02:03 AM
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I like him too, mostly. Just wish he'd stop dribbling the ball off his foot.
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You can put him down with dribbling the ball of his foot for about two times a game.
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02-20-2009, 02:14 AM
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What are we so upset about? Was there some actual decent trade opportunity the FO balked at, or are we merely blaming our own FO for the general nonexistence of reasonable deals anywhere on the market?
Or are we just mad that Stack is activated, regardless of anything concerning the trade deadline?
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02-20-2009, 02:40 AM
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I'm actually not that mad.
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02-20-2009, 06:02 AM
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you forget that stack is a pure shooter, certainly what the mavs need now, especially when terrys ~ 20 points missing. yeah, it's not realistic that stack comes out and steps up for 20 points per game but in my opinion it's enough if he scores 10-15 points with some good shots in the clutch. i remember the celtics game last week when in the last minutes the five players on the court were kidd, wright, george, dirk and dampier. we played such a good game but at the end the c's only had to double or triple dirk because they knew that nobody else can score. stack could be another scoring option in the crunch time. in addition stack can play backup for josh (and not this overrated defender george)...
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02-20-2009, 06:25 AM
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And what has that exactly gotten them thats better then what our team has gotten us??? Umm yeee
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My point was they were all good cheap moves that have paid off. Any team in the league would love to have Landry, Brooks or Scola. They'll have first shot at signing Artest. They have assets. And in all of these moves they gave up hardly anything. Our team has gotten us Bass, Diop(again),George(again), Fazekas, Foster, Williams, R.Terry, Carroll, Green, Singleton. One hit (Bass)and a bunch of misses. Von Wafer off the scrapheap is averaging 10 pts. per and is a 3 point threat for them. Do we even have scouts? They suck. I thought the Kidd boondoggle was a "win championship now!" move. What happened to that? They got fleeced. They got scared. And now they're tight. Sorry if i seem pissy but my team that i've spent hours upon days and years watching, praying for, caring way too much about has been highjacked by a band of fools. What a waste of Dirk's prime. Looking forward to surrounding Dirk with a new cast of characters at age 35 and expecting an instant championship. Because a second tier star like Joe Johnson will put us over the top along with our 39 year old Kidd and aging Jet. Sorry if I'm posting in the wrong category.
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02-20-2009, 09:24 AM
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Sorry, but I have to laugh at the idea that Stack is a "pure shooter." I mean, so was Antoine Walker, right? It's not a pure shooter we need...it's a pure shot-maker. And that, Jerry Stackhouse is not.
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02-20-2009, 09:28 AM
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Stackhouse could score 20 a game..it might take him 25 shots on average..but he could score 20 a game. It would be the lease efficient 20 in the history of the NBA..but he could score 20 a game. Or, he could score an inefficient 10. I suppose that's what the Mavs are looking for. They'd rather have an inefficient veteran putting up 10 a game.. one that sometimes forgets to pass for large chunks of time.. they'd rather have that guy scoring 10 a game than giving those minutes to a younger guy that may or may not do anything with those minutes.
That, people, is what the front office has done for us lately.
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02-20-2009, 09:28 AM
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As for Stack being a pure shooter...the bar sure as hell has been lowered..
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02-20-2009, 09:33 AM
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you forget that stack is a pure shooter, certainly what the mavs need now, especially when terrys ~ 20 points missing. yeah, it's not realistic that stack comes out and steps up for 20 points per game but in my opinion it's enough if he scores 10-15 points with some good shots in the clutch. i remember the celtics game last week when in the last minutes the five players on the court were kidd, wright, george, dirk and dampier. we played such a good game but at the end the c's only had to double or triple dirk because they knew that nobody else can score. stack could be another scoring option in the crunch time. in addition stack can play backup for josh (and not this overrated defender george)...
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Stack has never been a shooter. Stack has been a scorer though. Unfortunately he has become an inefficient scorer. Without his legs and athleticism, he has become Michael Finley without the efficient 3pt shot.
I am a huge Stack fan, but he is not a shooter. In fact, he is closer to a slasher than shooter, and he doesn't slash much anymore (reminds me of JHo there).
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02-20-2009, 09:39 AM
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So if Stack wasn't going to be traded.... then why exactly haven't we been playing him? I say let his ass rot on the bench for giving up on this team and give the minutes to someone who is hungry for them and who the fans want to see (Green).
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02-20-2009, 09:48 AM
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He is a vet who knows the team and has seen the system all year. Great shooter or not, he will plug in immediately and has experience to offer the team. I think his presence in practice if nothing else will be good for the young players like Green who have a similar game.
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02-20-2009, 10:25 AM
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Why the hate for Stack?
Stack has the potential to be good or bad...none of us know.
As much as I've been down on this team, no moves at deadline time is actually a good thing. Now, we get Stack back and he could be a nice 5-10 min spark off the bench.
Perhaps he is the new "Rober Horry"...only this time as a Mav he comes in and becomes a spark to the bench during Terry's down time...
Just maybe there's enough negative expectations that this Mavs team could be poised to surprise us all!!!
If the Mavs win the NBA Championship...I will NEVER POST about politics again...maybe that will give a few fans the motivation to pick up the positive energy!!!
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02-20-2009, 11:44 AM
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I hate Stack as much as the next guy, but I think there's still a few things that point towards hope that he actually contributes something positive.
1) Carlisle keeps him on a short leash
2) He tends to play well after long rests from injury
3) In a playoff series, he can easily turn the tide of a game. If he's rested, probably to the Mavs advantage. If not, he'll turn the tide for the other team.
4) More chromagnum jokes
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02-20-2009, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 92bDad
Why the hate for Stack?
Stack has the potential to be good or bad...none of us know.
As much as I've been down on this team, no moves at deadline time is actually a good thing. Now, we get Stack back and he could be a nice 5-10 min spark off the bench.
Perhaps he is the new "Rober Horry"...only this time as a Mav he comes in and becomes a spark to the bench during Terry's down time...
Just maybe there's enough negative expectations that this Mavs team could be poised to surprise us all!!!
If the Mavs win the NBA Championship...I will NEVER POST about politics again...maybe that will give a few fans the motivation to pick up the positive energy!!!
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If the Mavs win the title this year.... one of three things will have to happen.
1) The end of the world is coming right away
2) Hell really has froze over, and I need to be finding warm stuff
3) Mark has joined the organized crime stuff that runs all professional sports.
I thought for a minute that the end of the world really was here last month when Arizona was beating Pittsburgh in the Superbowl, but it all straightened itself out, and organized crime won again.
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02-20-2009, 11:53 AM
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i agree with you, stack is most of the time an ineffecient shooter but he has something that only dirk and terry have in our roster: the trust in his shot. and this is what everybody in the nba knows, stack can win games for us. i don't need such players like wright who score millions of points against teams like kings and nj but go 1 for 10 against c's, lakers or cleveland and also hide in the crunch time...
like everybody else, i don't know what stack made in the last weeks. i don't know if he can adapt in our system. i don't know if he will ever be such an important role player like 2/3 years ago. i only know that he can be our fourth scoring option and everybody should hope because without him it's over in the second round...
ok, salmons would be a better choice but the fo couldn't get him. so we must trust in stack, we don't have another opportunity...
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02-20-2009, 11:58 AM
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Live by the Stack, die by the Stack...
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02-20-2009, 12:04 PM
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What are we so upset about? Was there some actual decent trade opportunity the FO balked at, or are we merely blaming our own FO for the general nonexistence of reasonable deals anywhere on the market?
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Anybody who is seriously blaming the Mavs' FO needs to turn on CNN for a few hours.
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02-20-2009, 12:06 PM
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^ Thank you.
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02-20-2009, 12:18 PM
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Imagine how good Green could be by now if we only would have been giving him some damn PT. This is the most frustrating aspect about this season, imo. Even more than not making a trade.
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02-20-2009, 12:21 PM
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I'm surprised we haven't dropped Green yet actually, we should bring in a big guy.
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02-20-2009, 12:23 PM
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What are we blaming the FO for? I don't know.. it seems to me as though they've got a damn good track record as of late, doesn't it?
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02-20-2009, 12:52 PM
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Stack has the potential to be good or bad...none of us know.
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I'd say the games he played this season are a good indication of whether he will be good or bad...
Remember too that just because Stack is activated doesn't mean he is going to play.
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