03-14-2009, 02:48 PM
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Barea can guard Fisher and Farmer... how are they going to "punish" him?
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03-14-2009, 02:52 PM
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scrubs like ariza are going to punish us
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03-14-2009, 02:54 PM
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Barea can guard Fisher and Farmer... how are they going to "punish" him?
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Like this
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03-14-2009, 03:18 PM
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scrubs like ariza are going to punish us
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Ariza scares the crap out of me, personally.
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03-14-2009, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
Ariza scares the crap out of me, personally.
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There is no one Mavs have that can match his hustle, which is why Lakers have a huge advantage in that area. But the bigger problem for tomorrow is that there is no George or JHo (most likely) so Wright is on his own to contain Kobe. That scares me more than Ariza
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03-14-2009, 04:14 PM
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Barea can guard Fisher and Farmer... how are they going to "punish" him?
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Fisher is bigger and stronger than him. If Fisher posts him up there is nothing he can do. Plus he is clumsy with the ball and they have athletic bodies like Kobe and Ariza that will turn him into a turn over machine. No to mention he is going to get blocked by the likes of Gasol, Odom and Kobe. Starting JJ against the Lakers is just asking for trouble
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03-14-2009, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
Ariza scares the crap out of me, personally.
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This guy is overrated when you take a look at the whole roster. I mean, Fisher, Vujacic or Gasol are way more capable than Ariza. Rick has to get someone out of the hat. That would be Green, indeed.
Otherwise ---> possible, but minimum chances.
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03-14-2009, 05:02 PM
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Fisher is bigger and stronger than him. If Fisher posts him up there is nothing he can do. Plus he is clumsy with the ball and they have athletic bodies like Kobe and Ariza that will turn him into a turn over machine. No to mention he is going to get blocked by the likes of Gasol, Odom and Kobe. Starting JJ against the Lakers is just asking for trouble
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If the Lakers are going to post up Fisher, I'll take that everytime.
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03-14-2009, 05:05 PM
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This guy is overrated when you take a look at the whole roster. I mean, Fisher, Vujacic or Gasol are way more capable than Ariza. Rick has to get someone out of the hat. That would be Green, indeed.
Otherwise ---> possible, but minimum chances.
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I really don't think he's overrated at all. He's a great role-player with a lot of hustle. He's far from their best scorer or ball-handler, but he is all over the court, getting rebounds and deflections. He made numerous huge, clutch plays both times the Mavs played the Lakers this year.
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03-14-2009, 05:09 PM
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Ariza is their best perimeter defender. He is like an athletic Adrian Griffin. He just has a knack for making huge plays that seem to translate into wins.
TMavFan wanted the Mavs to sign him a few years ago when he was a free agent. I really wish they would have. He would be the best SG/SF (outside of Howard) on the Mavs. He would easily be the starter.
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03-14-2009, 05:11 PM
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Ariza is a starter in this league IMO.
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03-14-2009, 05:48 PM
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If the Lakers are going to post up Fisher, I'll take that everytime.
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I won't. Not when you have to deal with Gasol and Kobe. You can't just give them any more advantages than they already have. I think Green or Singleton should start because Mavs will match up better with them.
I don't know how you can defend Barea after his play last night. Sure he scored points here and there but his defense was atrocious and he single handidly prevented Mavs from getting control of that game on more than one occasion
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03-14-2009, 05:50 PM
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I don't really know who this Ariza is, so I expect he'll kick our tails tomorrow.
Actually, come to think of it, I believe he kicked our tails last time. But that's all I remember about him.
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03-14-2009, 05:57 PM
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I'm not defending Barea. You are talking about the Lakers posting up Fisher vs. Kobe vs. Gasol. I'll take Fisher everytime.
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03-14-2009, 06:18 PM
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I'm not defending Barea. You are talking about the Lakers posting up Fisher vs. Kobe vs. Gasol. I'll take Fisher everytime.
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We all know Gasol and Kobe are going to get shots. We're talking about when they aren't getting shots...rather than having Odom or Ariza take a contested jump shot, they could have Fisher post up and have a much higher percentage.
They aren't going to post up Fisher instead of giving the ball to Kobe, but they might do it along with Kobe and Gasol getting shots.
I am with the group that says Barea should not start. Of the team that can abuse him and his height and defense, the Lakers have to be one of them. They aren't going to let a mismatch like that just go without being exploited.
Barea deserves a chance. He's too streaky not to test each night...he can light you up for 5 straight 3 pointers if he's on, as witnessed in Houston a few weeks back. However, he should not start and should not play SG unless it turns out his shot is falling.
We're going to need more than just the usual Mavs. My only hope is that this game turns into a shoot out, and the Mavericks are able to out shoot the Lakers. We need some type of intangible...Green, possibly, or a lot of minutes to Hollins or Singleton or Bass.
Even if Jet and Dirk equal Kobe and Gasol, we're still going to lose. Kidd playing like he did last night would be a great help. If he can score 20 points we'd be in better shape.
A lot of this game, however, if going to come down to Wright's defense on Kobe. We've really got no other good option to guard him. When Kobe's on the floor and Wright's not, though, I think you have to give Green that shot. He played well on Kobe in a previous matchup...I know Green bites for too many fakes and what-not, but he's got the athleticism that matches Kobe's. I think he may be more athletic then Kobe. Though improbable, perhaps putting an athletic, long-armed defender like Green on Kobe throws him off a little. There's not exactly a ton of 6'8" SG's who can jump as high as Dwight Howard in the league. I'm not saying Green on Kobe will work, but it has a better shot of working than anybody else we can put on Kobe besides Wright. Singleton on Kobe would be awful. Kobe can play with Singleton, I'd bet.
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03-14-2009, 06:59 PM
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I hate Don Nelson and his lovefest for being a spoiler.
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03-14-2009, 07:03 PM
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I didnt watch the gamee, but sounds like Mavs did a great job~
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03-14-2009, 07:05 PM
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The words "Mavs did a great job" and "loss" and "Golden State Warriors" do not go together.
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03-14-2009, 10:42 PM
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I didnt watch the gamee, but sounds like Mavs did a great job~
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I don't think you read the score right.
Side note: man i was vs the wizards online in 2k9 and dirk had 35 points and 12 rebounds in 5 min quarters.
He was a beast it took us overtime.
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03-14-2009, 11:00 PM
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Ariza was big in the first 2 meetings this year against us.
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03-15-2009, 03:31 AM
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scrubs like ariza are going to punish us
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you don't know much about basketball if you think trevor ariza is a scrub.
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03-15-2009, 07:33 AM
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If Barea and Wright start against LA, we're lost. Please Carlisle, don't play Barea again as our starting SG. Moreover, Wright against Kobe... sigh... Let's try Green. Why not, it can't be worse than against GSW with Barea and Wright.
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03-15-2009, 09:11 AM
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Could used josh Fri.
But surely we don't need him today.
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03-15-2009, 09:18 AM
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Who will be courageous enough to start the GDT? I'm not.
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03-15-2009, 09:40 AM
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Who will be courageous enough to start the GDT? I'm not.
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Me neither. I think Fluid wanted to do it though? After his mojo against Portland he mentioned something like this, didn't he?
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03-15-2009, 09:58 AM
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Me neither. I think Fluid wanted to do it though? After his mojo against Portland he mentioned something like this, didn't he?
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I sure hope he does.
Fluid is 2-0 with victories over the Blazers at their home and over SAS.
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03-15-2009, 10:36 AM
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Ariza scares the crap out of me, personally.
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Well, a scrub can try to "block" him then the same way he tried at -28 with Fernandez.
Good luck Ariza.
No George, no Josh and Wright probably 2 Fouls after 4 minutes. Kobe will score around 40, maybe we can stop the rest a little bit.
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