Postgame Thread: the best TEAM in the league beats OKC - Page 2 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Underdog · 12-27-2010, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

This is my favorite win of the year. Gosh what a gutty win. You don't have your coach. Your superstar goes down in the second quarter. Your second leading scorer is laying a massive stink bomb. You're in one of the best home arenas in the NBA, your center gets into foul trouble.

I mean good grief. So many other years, this team would have packed it in. Most teams in the NBA would have packed it in and focused on not losing the easy one tomorrow night. But this team is different. This team is hungry. This team is out to prove something. This team is legit. They didn't back down, they played hard and rough. And they strutted their stuff in the closing minutes because they know what kind of statement this was. In a young season full of statement games, this was another huge one. It is so freaking awesome to watch this team go about its business right now.

Most recaps are probably going to start with Marion, and believe me I'll get to him in a second. But I'm starting with Tyson effing Chandler. What a beast that man is. I thought he scuffled a bit in the first half. They were really letting some things go down low and he let it get to him. But goodness did he channel that emotion properly in the second half. He was everywhere, and he did everything. He closed down every gap coming into the lane, he protected the rim, and created space on the offensive end. He did it all. When he pounded that ball even further into the wedge on the backward I stood and clapped. Awesome.

Now, Shawn Marion. I am an unabashed lover of defense and the little things, and Shawn Marion brings so much of both. Tonight he brought the defense, he brought the rebounding, he brought the energy, and he brought the big things (scoring). He carved Oklahoma up with his dive cuts and his wack spin-post moves. He ran the floor and finished (mostly). He was awesome.

Deshawn Stevenson gave this team a huge lift in extended minutes as the rotation had to be adjusted. He played huge defense on a player that realistically he should never even be asked to guard due to their height (and it's a bit of an indictment on KD's young skillset that he couldn't take more advantage of that difference), and he played well within the offense.

Kidd ended up one measley rebound away from a triple double. He shot poorly but played well in every other area, especially defensively where he really seemed to be giving maximum effort to keep Westbrook contained.

Butler really helped this team in stretches as they really, really needed someone to put the ball in the basket before the fourth quarter, but 21 points on 22 shots? Bleach.

Jet...what a weird game. What a stretch of weird games. Eight assists, some of them very nifty, but five turnovers. Couldn't score to save his life until the fourth quarter AGAIN, but absolutely money once we got there. I love his attitude in the fourth, but at what point do we expect more than one good quarter from someone so important to this team?

I respect the hell out of Skin's basketball knowledge, but it boggles my mind that he could watch Brendan Haywood play this year and not see a difference. He was absolutely invisible tonight.

Pretty blah game from JJ. Attacked well but made some poor decisions. Also of note, no shooting guard minutes for JJ at all tonight, despite the extra strain on the rotation. Could be a machup thing, could be a Casey thing.

Dirk was obviously quite good in his limited minutes. I hate to finish this post with a downer, but I have to say, given the weird way in which he injured himself, "sore knee" concerns me. Probably nothing, but I'm concerned.

On a brigher note, awesome, AWESOME win tonight. Love this team.

Wow, great recap!

sefant77 · 12-27-2010, 10:51 PM

I dont like the lack of Gifs in this thread after such a win

BGMaverick9 · 12-27-2010, 10:53 PM

you know what this means...

Dirkadirkastan · 12-27-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

the last 2 tweets he made about half an hour ago are not

Try reading them, they're the same tweets.

alexamenos · 12-27-2010, 10:53 PM

No dirk, on the road against a hungry young team. Dominant 4th quarter. This was as good of a win as any this season. My Mavericks pants are exploding with happiness.

jthig32 · 12-27-2010, 10:54 PM

They just interviewed Dirk in the post game.

The good news:
- He was standing
- Nothing bad on the xrays

The bad news:
- Said the knee had been bothering him for a couple weeks
- Said the knee "just kind of gave out"
- Said he's never felt anything like this before
- He already has an MRI scheduled for tomorrow
- He spoke about this as if it were legitimate injury. There as no typical Dirk speak, no talk of playing tomorrow.

I'm concerned. Significantly.

LonghornDub · 12-27-2010, 10:55 PM

Gina Miller tweeting that Dirk says his knee has been "bothering him two weeks," X-rays negative, MRI tomorrow. Casey apparently said it doesn't sound serious.

Bayliss · 12-27-2010, 10:55 PM

Dirk just said the X-Rays were negative. He said his leg has been bothering him a little for the last two weeks.

Said he would have an MRI tomorrow at 9:00..... Said he thinks he strained a muscle in the back of his knee....

jthig32 · 12-27-2010, 10:55 PM

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Dirk's right knee, according to Dwane Casey in postgame "doesn't sound serious". A precautionary MRI will be done in morning

Well now I don't know what to think.

xrobx · 12-27-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

They just interviewed Dirk in the post game.

The good news:
- He was standing
- Nothing bad on the xrays

The bad news:
- Said the knee had been bothering him for a couple weeks
- Said the knee "just kind of gave out"
- Said he's never felt anything like this before
- He already has an MRI scheduled for tomorrow
- He spoke about this as if it were legitimate injury. There as no typical Dirk speak, no talk of playing tomorrow.

I'm concerned. Significantly.

i would have rather lost this game by 50 points than this. bad news. season possibly in jeopardy.

tcat075 · 12-27-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by She_Growls

Why did you have to post this....pls delete it....the Mavs don't need any drama right now, thank you.

Not drama, we've decided the fault was on my end. Those two things very clearly show up as being posted hours ago now, but for some reason it was like that earlier.

Underdog · 12-27-2010, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

I'm concerned. Significantly.

My guess is that it's a 3-month injury, but he'll be back within a week...

jthig32 · 12-27-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by xrobx

i would have rather lost this game by 50 points than this. bad news. season possibly in jeopardy.

I wouldn't go that far. Generally if it's something that's actually ruptured in the knee the player will know it's something significant.

Bayliss · 12-27-2010, 10:57 PM

Here's my question though... difference between X-Rays and MRI. X-Rays rules out a broken bone (ie kneecap)... does it rule out anything else?

jthig32 · 12-27-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Here's my question though... difference between X-Rays and MRI. X-Rays rules out a broken bone (ie kneecap)... does it rule out anything else?

I don't believe they rule out ligament damage.

BGMaverick9 · 12-27-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Well now I don't know what to think.

Will he miss a game or two, probably.

I'm guessing it's just a concern due to the unknown for Dirk. We know he's had battles with the ankles, but he's never really had a knee issue. I would assume they'll take it easy with him....not Roddy easy, but easy.

With that being said, I won't be surprised if he still plays tomorrow.

b_o_r · 12-27-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

They just interviewed Dirk in the post game.

The good news:
- He was standing
- Nothing bad on the xrays

The bad news:
- Said the knee had been bothering him for a couple weeks
- Said the knee "just kind of gave out"
- Said he's never felt anything like this before
- He already has an MRI scheduled for tomorrow
- He spoke about this as if it were legitimate injury. There as no typical Dirk speak, no talk of playing tomorrow.

I'm concerned. Significantly.

This makes no sense. Your franchise player says his knee has been bothering him for 2 weeks. You have a 5 day break, but schedule an MRI on the second day of a back to back

LonghornDub · 12-27-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Well now I don't know what to think.

I guess we'll see, but it sounds like it's probably just a sprain or hyperextension or something. The mere fact that he says he's "never felt anything like it before" doesn't speak much to the severity, but just that he usually only injures his ankle (or gets teeth embedded in his arm).

And saying he'd rather deal with ankle injuries also doesn't necessarily speak to severity, since you'd always rather deal with something you've experienced before and know for sure you'll come back from quickly.

Bayliss · 12-27-2010, 10:59 PM

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I don't believe they rule out ligament damage.

Huh?

She_Growls · 12-27-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by alexamenos

No dirk, on the road against a hungry young team. Dominant 4th quarter. This was as good of a win as any this season. My Mavericks pants are exploding with happiness.

LOL.....I couldn't figure out what was going on with my pants. Ditto!

jthig32 · 12-27-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by b_o_r

This makes no sense. Your franchise player says his knee has been bothering him for 2 weeks. You have a 5 day break, but schedule an MRI on the second day of a back to back

They're scheduling the MRI because he got injured during this game.

Professional athletes play through all kinds of aches and pains that now one ever knows about. Nothing strange about it.

Bayliss · 12-27-2010, 11:00 PM

Okay... I'll be House... JThig, you be Forman... Longhorn, you be Taub... the volleyball girl can be 13....

differential diagnosis?

She_Growls · 12-27-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tcat075

Not drama, we've decided the fault was on my end. Those two things very clearly show up as being posted hours ago now, but for some reason it was like that earlier.

Cool topcat....

LonghornDub · 12-27-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Okay... I'll be House... JThig, you be Forman... Longhorn, you be Taub... the volleyball girl can be 13....

differential diagnosis?

I want Kutner. I know he shot himself in the head, but he's more my style.

sefant77 · 12-27-2010, 11:01 PM

Maybe an own thread for the dirk injury and updates so it doesnt get mixed with the Postgame and tomorrows GDT...

jthig32 · 12-27-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Huh?

The major question with just about any knee injury is ligament damage. So I was commenting on your question by mentioning that I don't think XRays rule out that major fear.

RareMilk · 12-27-2010, 11:03 PM

Who is a legitimate backup for Dirk? Marion? Twin tower lineup Haywood and Chanldler? Alexis? Kidd?

LonghornDub · 12-27-2010, 11:03 PM

First differential diagnosis: Dirk's knee is suffering sympathy pains for Carlisle's knee.

Discuss.

jthig32 · 12-27-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Will he miss a game or two, probably.

I'm guessing it's just a concern due to the unknown for Dirk. We know he's had battles with the ankles, but he's never really had a knee issue. I would assume they'll take it easy with him....not Roddy easy, but easy.

With that being said, I won't be surprised if he still plays tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

I guess we'll see, but it sounds like it's probably just a sprain or hyperextension or something. The mere fact that he says he's "never felt anything like it before" doesn't speak much to the severity, but just that he usually only injures his ankle (or gets teeth embedded in his arm).

And saying he'd rather deal with ankle injuries also doesn't necessarily speak to severity, since you'd always rather deal with something you've experienced before and know for sure you'll come back from quickly.

Dirk has dealt with a knee injury before. But yes, I'm not concerned about him saying he'd rather deal with an ankle. More concerned about him feeling a pain he's never experienced when he has dealt with a minor knee issue before. And more than anything just his overall demeanor came off as a little deflated, but I could be reading more than is there.

jthig32 · 12-27-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

First differential diagnosis: Dirk's knee is suffering sympathy pains for Carlisle's knee.

Discuss.

Well it's certainly not Lupis.

sefant77 · 12-27-2010, 11:05 PM

Was the win awesome enough to post another nice round butt so we have options to post after the next wins?

RareMilk · 12-27-2010, 11:05 PM

Where do we send get well cards to Carlisle?

jthig32 · 12-27-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RareMilk

Who is a legitimate backup for Dirk? Marion? Twin tower lineup Haywood and Chanldler? Alexis? Kidd?

Seems like a fairly obvious answer, no?

The bigger question is whether Cardinal will be better in time to play tomorrow night. I appreciate Ajincia hitting the three, but he was otherwise pretty bad, which is not really his fault but still a reality.

Bayliss · 12-27-2010, 11:06 PM

So should we start him on broad based antiboitics?

How about doing a lumbar puncture?

BGMaverick9 · 12-27-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Dirk has dealt with a knee injury before. But yes, I'm not concerned about him saying he'd rather deal with an ankle. More concerned about him feeling a pain he's never experienced when he has dealt with a minor knee issue before. And more than anything just his overall demeanor came off as a little deflated, but I could be reading more than is there.

Well it's been a lot more common with the ankles. Without really knowing, I would say he's had more elbow issues than knee issues. Either way, it just boils down to him facing something he's not that familiar with.

I think you're reading too much into the demeanor, but that's just me.

LonghornDub · 12-27-2010, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Dirk has dealt with a knee injury before. But yes, I'm not concerned about him saying he'd rather deal with an ankle. More concerned about him feeling a pain he's never experienced when he has dealt with a minor knee issue before. And more than anything just his overall demeanor came off as a little deflated, but I could be reading more than is there.

But all "minor knee issues" are not created equal. I personally have had several different knee injuries, ranging from a hyperextension to a mild PCL sprain to a complete ACL tear. They all feel different. The PCL sprain was actually more painful than the ACL tear, which basically just felt like I had no knee at all.

I can't recall what prior knee injuries Dirk has had, but if this is a non-tear of a different variety than what he's suffered, I can completely empathize with his anxiety.

LonghornDub · 12-27-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

So should we start him on broad based antiboitics?

How about doing a lumbar puncture?

Put him on interferon. If he gets better, we'll know we were right.

sefant77 · 12-27-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

So should we start him on broad based antiboitics?

How about doing a lumbar puncture?

How about some painkiller and a walking stick? He could still drop 30 on the Craptors tomorrow.

BGMaverick9 · 12-27-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Seems like a fairly obvious answer, no?

The bigger question is whether Cardinal will be better in time to play tomorrow night. I appreciate Ajincia hitting the three, but he was otherwise pretty bad, which is not really his fault but still a reality.

I'm actually a little surprised Novakaine didn't get the nod first, but then when I went back to the original thought process: I thought Mahinmi or Lex...so I guess I'm not that surprised

From what I heard, Cardinal had food poisoning...I'm guessing that's just a tolerance issue.

Popeye · 12-27-2010, 11:10 PM

After listening to Dirk's interview and 5 minutes of googling, i'm guessing the injury is a strain to the popliteus muscle. I think KG had something similar last year. Obviously just a guess... We'll see and hope for the best.