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LonghornDub · 05-26-2011, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Dirk and 1 and it's not even close. GTFO with Brickhouse's OT jumpers.

Way to be respectful, Cad.

Mav Addict · 05-26-2011, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackspider

WCF closeout clinching shot to take the lead to propels us to Finals >>> And 1 basket to tie the game in round 2.

But that's just me.

Dude after Dirk hit the 3 there was 1:14 seconds left...that shot was not necessarily game clinching...and the series was 3-1

The Marion dunk was the clinching shot, not the Dirk 3

And compare this OKC team to that Spurs team is not even close...the Spurs was our big brothers...whereas the Thunder are our little brothers

Obviously you are a lil young

Blackspider · 05-26-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav Addict

Dude after Dirk hit the 3 there was 1:14 seconds left...that shot was not necessarily game clinching...and the series was 3-1

The Marion dunk was the clinching shot, not the Dirk 3

And compare this OKC team to that Spurs team is not even close...the Spurs was our big brothers...whereas the Thunder are our little brothers

Obviously you are a lil young

Obviously I'm not. I'm on my way to being 27. And yes, it was 3-1, of the WCF. Someone talks about crushing spirits. Well ok, that shot crushed their spirits, too.

GhostFace · 05-26-2011, 05:30 PM

When Dirk hit that 3 it was the most amazing moment. The joy, the happiness, the unbelief, the belief, the impossible, the anxiety, the torment all rolled up into one glorious moment. Oh it was beautiful, running around my house screaming, fist fucking pumping like a boss. Nothing but glory.

Blackspider · 05-26-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GhostFace

When Dirk hit that 3 it was the most amazing moment. The joy, the happiness, the unbelief, the belief, the impossible, the anxiety, the torment all rolled up into one glorious moment. Oh it was beautiful, running around my house screaming, fist fucking pumping like a boss. Nothing but glory.

My thoughts as well and again, i may be biased because I saw it in person but I just did not get that same feeling when Dirk got the And 1.

Like I said, I got more excitement and euphoria when Diop tipped the offensive rebound to himself at the very end that basically secured the win.

Underdog · 05-26-2011, 05:34 PM

I'm over the And-1... Yeah, it was a beautiful way to defeat the dreaded Spurs, but it eventually led to the biggest Finals collapse in NBA history so it meant squat in the grand scheme of things.

Dirk's three last night felt like something bigger, something now... He didn't need a lucky break like Manu fouling him to beat the Thunder - his team grabbed the offensive board, put the ball in his hands at the right spot, then he stepped up and sank that three like it was his DESTINY, lead.

It wasn't one man, it was five - 2006 almost feels like it might have been a fluke compared to what I saw this team do last night (and really, all playoffs long...)

Blackspider · 05-26-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

I'm over the And-1... Yeah, it was a beautiful way to defeat the dreaded Spurs, but it eventually led to the biggest Finals collapse in NBA history so it meant squat in the grand scheme of things.

Dirk's three last night felt like something bigger, something now... He didn't need a lucky break like Manu fouling him to beat the Thunder - his team grabbed the offensive board, put the ball in his hands at the right spot, then he stepped up and sank that three like it was his DESTINY, lead.

It wasn't one man, it was five - 2006 almost feels like it might have been a fluke compared to what I saw this team do last night (and really, all playoffs long...)

Thank you!!

This just felt different than back in 2006. Like that shot was the stepping stone for something magical in the next few weeks. It gave us the lead. The And 1 just tied it up and we just prayed for OT.

We got to play a banged up Spurs team that year and a Suns team without Amare and then Raja Bell went down in game 2. A lot of stuff went their way.

This year, not the case.

mac222b · 05-26-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GhostFace

When Dirk hit that 3 it was the most amazing moment. The joy, the happiness, the unbelief, the belief, the impossible, the anxiety, the torment all rolled up into one glorious moment. Oh it was beautiful, running around my house screaming, [[fist fucking]] pumping like a boss. Nothing but glory.

WOW!!! you really know how to celebrate

Underdog · 05-26-2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackspider

Thank you!!

This just felt different than back in 2006. Like that shot was the stepping stone for something magical in the next few weeks. It gave us the lead. The And 1 just tied it up and we just prayed for OT.

We got to play a banged up Spurs team that year and a Suns team without Amare and then Raja Bell went down in game 2. A lot of stuff went their way.

This year, not the case.

Very true - not only did Portland, LA and OKC play at full strength, but a lot of media-types seem to be glossing over the fact that we haven't had (arguably) our 2nd-best player in Caron Butler for this entire run, and we're STILL curb-stomping our opponents!

I mean, it's not like we're "just getting by" here... The Trailblazers were possibly the 2nd-strongest team in the West and we had to play them in the 1st Round, we beat them in six... Then we swept the champs. Swept. The. Champs.... Now we just took down an energetic, young squad whose average age versus ours was the biggest gap in playoff history and we ended up sending those kids to bed early with no dessert in only 5 games...

12-3... No small thing.

topgun · 05-26-2011, 06:23 PM

What I loved about his 3 pointer was the context surrounding it. He just missed one seconds earlier, heading back on defense, but as soon as he saw Kidd come up with the ball it was like he already knew he was going to knock that bitch down. He just took over and became Mr. Clutch... Again

LonghornDub · 05-26-2011, 06:25 PM

For me, I don't think there's any question whatsoever this is a more impressive playoff run in '06. They beat one really good team in '06, and did so by the skin of their teeth. That thing easily could have gone either way. This year, they've beaten three good teams, and it hasn't even really been close.

fluid.forty.one · 05-26-2011, 06:28 PM

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Very true - not only did Portland, LA and OKC play at full strength, but a lot of media-types seem to be glossing over the fact that we haven't had (arguably) our 2nd-best player in Caron Butler for this entire run, and we're STILL curb-stomping our opponents!

I mean, it's not like we're "just getting by" here... The Trailblazers were possibly the 2nd-strongest team in the West and we had to play them in the 1st Round, we beat them in six... Then we swept the champs. Swept. The. Champs.... Now we just took down an energetic, young squad whose average age versus ours was the biggest gap in playoff history and we ended up sending those kids to bed early with no dessert in only 5 games...

12-3... No small thing.

Scary thing is... Miami will also be 12-3 if they win tonight.

Although, the teams they have played haven't been as good as Portland/LA/OKC (the Bulls have been playing awful most of this playoff run and were losing games against the sub-.500 pacers)

Kante · 05-26-2011, 06:31 PM

When the Mavs had the offensive rebound and Kidd passed to Marion he directly pointed to Dirk so that Marion passes it to him!

Big Boy Laroux · 05-26-2011, 07:19 PM

You guys are comparing the wins, the playoff runs, the teams. Of course this run is better, this team is better. We know the disappointment of 2006.

But moment vs moment, the and-1 still reigns supreme.

ajk822 · 05-26-2011, 07:48 PM

On a similar topic, does anyone else feel like we've only played one game at an A level? We played as well as we could during game 4 versus LA, but no other game has felt complete. I feel like we're due for another amazing game during the finals.

jthig32 · 05-26-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

I'm over the And-1... Yeah, it was a beautiful way to defeat the dreaded Spurs, but it eventually led to the biggest Finals collapse in NBA history so it meant squat in the grand scheme of things.

Dirk's three last night felt like something bigger, something now... He didn't need a lucky break like Manu fouling him to beat the Thunder - his team grabbed the offensive board, put the ball in his hands at the right spot, then he stepped up and sank that three like it was his DESTINY, lead.

It wasn't one man, it was five - 2006 almost feels like it might have been a fluke compared to what I saw this team do last night (and really, all playoffs long...)

Meant squat??????? That's ridiculous.

Teams just don't win game 7's on the road. It's incredibly rare. Then to do it against the Spurs?

C'mon. We were up 3-1 on OKC. The moments don't even remotely compare. Do you REMEMBER how much we all hated the Spurs?

I remember everything about that game. I remember Duncan's demeanor in the post game press conference.

Personal opinion, obviously, but I just don't see how the two even compare.

jthig32 · 05-26-2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackspider

Thank you!!

This just felt different than back in 2006. Like that shot was the stepping stone for something magical in the next few weeks. It gave us the lead. The And 1 just tied it up and we just prayed for OT.

We got to play a banged up Spurs team that year and a Suns team without Amare and then Raja Bell went down in game 2. A lot of stuff went their way.

This year, not the case.

Obviously this run is better, but that Spurs team was not banged up.

Mav Addict · 05-26-2011, 08:07 PM

A. A series clinching and 1 on the road with 20 seconds left in a eliminating game 7 against big brother

B. A non clinching 3 pointer with 74 seconds left at home, up 3-1 against lil brother

Come on people.....convenient amnesia maybe?

LonghornDub · 05-26-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav Addict

A. A series clinching and 1 on the road with 20 seconds left in a eliminating game 7 against big brother

B. A non clinching 3 pointer with 74 seconds left at home, up 3-1 against lil brother

Come on people.....convenient amnesia maybe?

I actually agree there's no comparison between the two, but you're going to call that and-1 "series clinching" and then accuse OTHER people of "convenient amnesia"?

A shot that ties the game and leaves the opponent 20 seconds to hit a game-winner, plus 5 more minutes of OT afterward, is not "series clinching."

CadBane · 05-26-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Way to be respectful, Cad.

Respectful to who? The ghost of Jerry Stackhouse?

Mav Addict · 05-26-2011, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

I actually agree there's no comparison between the two, but you're going to call that and-1 "series clinching" and then accuse OTHER people of "convenient amnesia"?

A shot that ties the game and leaves the opponent 20 seconds to hit a game-winner, plus 5 more minutes of OT afterward, is not "series clinching."

How about series saving and 1....better?

Underdog · 05-26-2011, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Meant squat??????? That's ridiculous.

Teams just don't win game 7's on the road. It's incredibly rare. Then to do it against the Spurs?

C'mon. We were up 3-1 on OKC. The moments don't even remotely compare. Do you REMEMBER how much we all hated the Spurs?

I remember everything about that game. I remember Duncan's demeanor in the post game press conference.

Personal opinion, obviously, but I just don't see how the two even compare.

2006 was all Manu - if he doesn't foul, game over...

2011 was all Dallas - 5 Mavericks on the court made that 3-pointer happen...

2006 is what Hollywood movies are made of, 2011 is what NBA champions are made of - I award more points for team effort than individual effort... I also award more points for willpower than luck - the fact that the Thunder series never made it to Game 7 is worth something too.

MascisMan · 05-26-2011, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ajk822

On a similar topic, does anyone else feel like we've only played one game at an A level? We played as well as we could during game 4 versus LA, but no other game has felt complete. I feel like we're due for another amazing game during the finals.

I think at this stage with this kind of competition and with adjustments/scouting it's nearly impossible to have many 'A' games for any team.

LonghornDub · 05-26-2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav Addict

How about series saving and 1....better?

Definitely. That's exactly what it was.

Mav Addict · 05-26-2011, 09:25 PM

Either way they both were amazing moments ...very few are actually lucky enough to debate such amazing plays in their teams history...we have experienced so many clutch plays from Dirk that we could come up many many more amazing moments.

Blackspider · 05-26-2011, 09:58 PM

And the fact that it was a game 7 due to them choking away a 3-1 lead. That game was a sigh of relief that we did not choke away a 3-1 lead and then a 20+ point lead in game 7 to lose.

This was different. I don't punish them because they did it in 5 instead of letting OKC tie it at 3-3 and then doing this in game 7.

vinylstar · 05-26-2011, 10:16 PM

ajk822 · 05-26-2011, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MascisMan

I think at this stage with this kind of competition and with adjustments/scouting it's nearly impossible to have many 'A' games for any team.

Solid point, I just still feel like we didn't play that well this series. We really do just hang around then win, which I fear could get us in trouble in the finals.

JeffViggiano · 05-26-2011, 11:14 PM

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i love this pic!

Nowitzness81 · 05-26-2011, 11:31 PM

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i love this pic!

Underdog · 05-26-2011, 11:39 PM

For me the big difference between these two plays was the way I felt after them...

I was nervous as hell after Dirk hit the and-1 in San Antonio - I honestly didn't expect us to make it through regulation with the Spurs having the rest of the game clock for their last possession.

But against the Thunder, when Dirk hit that 3-pointer with a full 1:15 left to go in the game, I absolutely knew that we'd emerge victorious... Just a different kind of swagger now.

LonghornDub · 05-26-2011, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

For me the big difference between these two plays was the way I felt after them...

I was nervous as hell after Dirk hit the and-1 in San Antonio - I honestly didn't expect us to make it through regulation with the Spurs having the rest of the game clock for their last possession.

But against the Thunder, when Dirk hit that 3-pointer with a full 1:15 left to go in the game, I absolutely knew that we'd emerge victorious... Just a different kind of swagger now.

To me, that's the difference between a series-saving shot and a series-winning/clinching shot. I can only give the former a 95, but the latter goes up to 100.

Nothing has ever scored a 100 yet, but I'm hoping something will in about 1.5-2 weeks here.

mqywaaah · 05-27-2011, 05:48 AM

I was speechless. I was like "what greatness..." *tear*

dirt_dobber · 05-27-2011, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

I mean, it's not like we're "just getting by" here... The Trailblazers were possibly the 2nd-strongest team in the West and we had to play them in the 1st Round, we beat them in six... Then we swept the champs. Swept. The. Champs.... Now we just took down an energetic, young squad whose average age versus ours was the biggest gap in playoff history and we ended up sending those kids to bed early with no dessert in only 5 games...

12-3... No small thing.

This is what Willis was talkin' about.

Go Mavs - beat them Heat bitches.

jthig32 · 05-27-2011, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

2006 was all Manu - if he doesn't foul, game over...

2011 was all Dallas - 5 Mavericks on the court made that 3-pointer happen...

2006 is what Hollywood movies are made of, 2011 is what NBA champions are made of - I award more points for team effort than individual effort... I also award more points for willpower than luck - the fact that the Thunder series never made it to Game 7 is worth something too.

This makes sense if we're discussing which playoff run was better. But which moment? Not even remotely comparable for me. That Spurs series was OVER. We'd just blown a 3-1 series lead. We were, once again, going to be ousted by the FREAKING Spurs.

That And-1 was the moment Dirk arrived as a true, franchise-lifting superstar. It was the moment we served notice to the rest of the NBA that we were more than just Nellie's "nice little Mavericks".

Obviously what happened in the Finals changed the complexion, but in that moment? It was incredible. It was unbelievable. It was absurd. It was franchise defining.

Only winning a championship will ever top that moment.

I'm honestly really confused how beating the Thunder while up 3-1 even compares. We've already BEEN to the NBA finals. If we lost that game against the Thunder, it's still incredibly likely that we go to the Finals. Honestly I feel a little like Dirk right now. I'm glad we're here, it's been a fantastic, dominant playoff run. But if they lose in the Finals, this will not hold a candle to the run in 2006. Because it was the first time.

So for me, no moment from this post season can compare, unless it's the moment that achieves, or leads to, the trophy.

dude1394 · 05-27-2011, 09:39 AM

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What did you guys do/feel? That was my favorite Mavs moment ever.

Me and 3 friends were in the plat level. Everyone was already standing for the last 4min or so of the game. I remember when he missed it, a big sigh went over the crowd. Then Terry knocked it away, Dirk got it back and when he released it, I was leaning and hugging my friend next to me trying to will it in. When it swished through, I swear I've never went that crazy before ever for anything. We could feel the ground shake it was so loud.

Then the Marion dunk, it went ballistic cuz we all knew it was ours. One of my friends cried a little when we won. She told me she would if she saw it in person. It was just unreal witnessing that last minute in person.

Still have goosebumps!

It was pretty dang sweet. That place was a rocking!!

dude1394 · 05-27-2011, 09:42 AM

The and one was great, but to be honest the most intense times I've had have not been on the tv, but in person. Those spurs games that year at the aac had moment after moment like that. It's not the same. The and one was great but when you are turning around and hugging 10-15 complete strangers..thats hard to beat.

The guy is still just as correct.

Blackspider · 05-27-2011, 09:46 AM

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The and one was great, but to be honest the most intense times I've had have not been on the tv, but in person. Those spurs games that year at the aac had moment after moment like that. It's not the same. The and one was great but when you are turning around and hugging 10-15 complete strangers..thats hard to beat.

The guy is still just as correct.

And this is why that moment will trump the and 1 any day of the week because of what you said. Everyone was going crazy around us and we were hugging and slapping hands and all.

jthig32 · 05-27-2011, 10:50 AM

Being in the building does change the dynamic. I'm willing to accept that.

Murphy3 · 05-27-2011, 10:54 AM

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And this is why that moment will trump the and 1 any day of the week because of what you said. Everyone was going crazy around us and we were hugging and slapping hands and all.

I motorboated the hell out of some chic sitting behind me after that play. The place was absolutely electric.. everyone was clapping/cheering/dancing/hugging..