GDT: game 21 (20?) - Suns (9-8) at Mavs (8-11) 8:00 pm FSSW/LP - Page 2 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Dallas41 · 01-30-2021, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

I don’t understand why people are down on WCS. He always gives effort. Stats don’t always show some of the little things he does. For 4 million he can get you 20 minutes.

I've never thought Willie was the problem.

IN fact I thought the Mavs played their best defense doing that stretch where WCS started at Center with Maxi at PF

But the problem is KP has to play center now because apparently the Mavs are convinced him and Willie can't play together.

Willie allegedly causes spacing issues at center.

I'm just done with it because KP will comeback and Willie will head back to the bench getting 10 minutes at the most.

Melonhead · 01-31-2021, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

I've never thought Willie was the problem.

IN fact I thought the Mavs played their best defense doing that stretch where WCS started at Center with Maxi at PF

But the problem is KP has to play center now because apparently the Mavs are convinced him and Willie can't play together.

Willie allegedly causes spacing issues at center.

I'm just done with it because KP will comeback and Willie will head back to the bench getting 10 minutes at the most.

I agree as well. And there’s been less people criticizing WCS as his role has gotten more consistent.

But I was referencing your Mavs moneyball article with Josh Bowe complaining on him and he’s done in Dallas because eye test and he watches basketball. Like come on.

Melonhead · 01-30-2021, 09:54 PM

Man I hate Chris Paul

Melonhead · 01-30-2021, 10:01 PM

“If they could just stop them from getting easy baskets”

Yeah harp that would be ideal

Melonhead · 01-30-2021, 10:04 PM

Willie Cauley Stein at the buzzer.

FreshJive · 01-30-2021, 10:05 PM

That was good defense on Paul by Willie.

SMC0007 · 01-30-2021, 10:22 PM

Luka getting that 3rd foul was idiotic and then going off by himself to pout was childish. Cp3 worked him, right after Bridges did.

Melonhead · 01-30-2021, 10:32 PM

Chris Paul getting too many minutes as the primary guy on a team now. They need Booker back.

Melonhead · 01-30-2021, 10:35 PM

Long ways to go. Mavs have to stay focused.

Quantum · 01-30-2021, 10:35 PM

Tim Hardaway has to be the worst fast break finisher I have ever seen. He has no moves to fake the defender out and seems to miss the finish a lot...a lay up. Having a Euro-step should be basic fundamentals at this point in basketballs evolution. My god I have never seen someone struggle to finish a fast break like him. No creative handles...no euro-step...damn.

SMC0007 · 01-30-2021, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Quantum

Tim Hardaway has to be the worst fast break finisher I have ever seen. He has no moves to fake the defender out and seems to miss the finish a lot...a lay up. Having a Euro-step should be basic fundamentals at this point in basketballs evolution. My god I have never seen someone struggle to finish a fast break like him. No creative handles...no euro-step...damn.

Yea. How the hell can you not improve your handle every offseason. You don't even necessarily need a court to work on it.

Quantum · 01-30-2021, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Yea. How the hell can you not improve your handle every offseason. You don't even necessarily need a court to work on it.

Or some sort of misdirection fake or something...

I think he might be the worst starting 1-3(position) fast break finisher. It seems like all 1-3's cash that easy 2 points. Its a struggle for THJ.

Melonhead · 01-30-2021, 10:52 PM

Here come the mavs we all love. They’ll blow it one way or another

rimrocker · 01-30-2021, 10:52 PM

Well here we go...blowing a nice lead.

mac222b · 01-30-2021, 10:53 PM

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Well here we go...blowing a nice lead.

Luka and The Scrubs.

mac222b · 01-30-2021, 10:53 PM

Ok, can we put the James Johnson “point forward” stuff to rest.

EricaLubarsky · 01-30-2021, 11:03 PM

Maxi is court side

SMC0007 · 01-30-2021, 11:09 PM

I get Brunson back in for Hardaway

Melonhead · 01-30-2021, 11:11 PM

WCS is playing no games out here.

Melonhead · 01-30-2021, 11:12 PM

Paul finishing off the Mavs himself

rimrocker · 01-30-2021, 11:13 PM

Need this win in this situation to build a little confidence.

rimrocker · 01-30-2021, 11:14 PM

Crap....we're screwed.

SMC0007 · 01-30-2021, 11:14 PM

Why the FVCK is Dfs guarding CP?! Instead of Josh... that's just dumb

rimrocker · 01-30-2021, 11:15 PM

This is becoming a habit.

EricaLubarsky · 01-30-2021, 11:15 PM

We got issues

tgfan · 01-30-2021, 11:19 PM

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We got issues

This loss is going to put the Mavs at the bottom of the West. How long before somebody here breaks down and starts up with the calls for tank mode?

rimrocker · 01-30-2021, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tgfan

This loss is going to put the Mavs at the bottom of the West. How long before somebody here breaks down and starts up with the calls for tank mode?

No reason to tank if we don't have a pick.

EricaLubarsky · 01-30-2021, 11:17 PM

This team is done

SMC0007 · 01-30-2021, 11:18 PM

Ok. So we go get a guy who can defend quick guards and instead put the same guy we've always had, who can't guard them on him. Stupid af.

rimrocker · 01-30-2021, 11:18 PM

Devastating loss.

rimrocker · 01-30-2021, 11:20 PM

Down 7 with 15 seconds left....why are we shooting layups instead of 3s?

Quantum · 01-30-2021, 11:20 PM

Chris Paul the type of dude that always punches it when the stop light turns green

tgfan · 01-30-2021, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Quantum

Chris Paul the type of dude that always punches it when the stop light turns green

Hell, he punches it when the light turns yellow, too! He's obnoxious as can be, but makes good things happen for his team.

EricaLubarsky · 01-30-2021, 11:21 PM

We might lose 13 straight

SMC0007 · 01-30-2021, 11:24 PM

Rick's decision to put Dorian on Paul down the stretch was disastrous.

Thj is still who we thought he was.

mac222b · 01-31-2021, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Rick's decision to put Dorian on Paul down the stretch was disastrous.

Thj is still who we thought he was.

I thought this was strange too. Isn’t this the exact reason we got Richardson?

Simon2 · 01-31-2021, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

I thought this was strange too. Isn’t this the exact reason we got Richardson?

Yes. This is why I think RC is just overrated. I thought I heard since 2011, the Mavs haven’t won a playoff series. What?

SMC0007 · 01-31-2021, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

I thought this was strange too. Isn’t this the exact reason we got Richardson?

It is the exact reason. Like I mentioned before, It's a huge wtf when you go trade your best shooter for a guy to defend quick guards and then put the same guy we have had, dfs, who can't guard them on him. Down the stretch, not like randomly and from switching during the game. Intentionally being told to guard him. So CP gets like 16 pts, 5 ast in the 4th quarter.

And we have people complaining that we don't have shooters. Well we traded our best shooter for a guy to defend quick guards and we don't even use him for that purpose. I'm fine with that trade, Curry was not as valuable to us because we couldn't defend on the perimeter so every bucket he made he gave up more. This team is so backasswards right now, I can't understand how they approach some basic common sense things the way they do...Coaches and players.

VA-Mavs-Fan · 01-31-2021, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

So CP gets like 16 pts, 5 ast in the 4th quarter.

Green has shown a lot of ability to be a very very good defender, and pretty good rebounder, and his offense was growing. Why can't RC put Green on CP for at least 20 minutes last night? Green would have slowed him down - a lot. Same with Lavine a number of games ago. Clearly, the current set of guys aren't getting it done on defense. Why won't RC try to get his best 1-3 defender on the court? Brunson and Burke +/- just horrible, they get destroyed on Defense pretty frequently. They should not be playing together. Green should be playing with 1 of them at all times in second unit.

SMC0007 · 01-31-2021, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by VA-Mavs-Fan

Green has shown a lot of ability to be a very very good defender, and pretty good rebounder, and his offense was growing. Why can't RC put Green on CP for at least 20 minutes last night? Green would have slowed him down - a lot. Same with Lavine a number of games ago. Clearly, the current set of guys aren't getting it done on defense. Why won't RC try to get his best 1-3 defender on the court? Brunson and Burke +/- just horrible, they get destroyed on Defense pretty frequently. They should not be playing together. Green should be playing with 1 of them at all times in second unit.

I think the best 1-3 defender is JRich. But Green is probably next. God only knows why Rick does what he does. I'm sure he sees something in practice but also he over values tenure imo. The problem with going by tenure and having too much loyalty is you never maximize young potential. Whixh is what even the biggest Rick apologizers tend to agree with.