NOT SO stoopid trade thread

[MFFL]

[i]Originally posted by: MikeB

Why in the world would a team that is THIS close to a championship BLOWUP the team?
Only 6 returning players out of 15...isn't that a bit drastic?

I think the Lakers might blow up their team in a similar fashion.

[superheadcat]

this is definitely one of the stoopid trades:
"Antonio Davis, Morris Peterson and Toronto's fourth overall pick to Dallas for Steve Nash and Raef LaFrentz.
The Mavericks get Davis, the tough guy and post presence they need. He's a little small for the Western Conference, but he's rugged and can battle the bigger forwards in the West. The Mavs also get the Raptors' No. 4 overall pick to get a project big guy they can wait for, like Chris Kaman. The key in the deal is Steve Nash, the British Columbia native, returning to Canada. Nick Van Exel was on the court at the end of all the Mavs' big playoff games, and Nash comes up for a new deal after the 2004-05 season. Better to trade Nash a year soon. The Raptors also get Raef LaFrentz, who'll fit better in the East away from the Mavs' frenetic game. Toronto would be so thrilled to get Nash, a potential franchise savior, it would probably throw in whomever the Mavs wanted, perhaps Peterson or to expand the deal if the Mavs want Alvin Williams and would send back someone like Evan Eschmeyer. " from espn.com's Sam Smith
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what the hell is he thinking?

[Ummmmm Ok]

Didn't wanna start a new thread so how about this trade idea:

Dallas trades Howard/Raef to Chicago for Marshall/Curry.

I know people are going to say I am crazy for trading Howard but with Welch here now, isn't he an upgrade over Howard? Jamison is already set in the 3 spot, and Finley in the 2 with Welch backing him up. That leaves nothing but a backup spot for Howard. I think Chicago would love to have Howard sitting in the wings to replace Rose in the future. Now the only thing that is going to hold this possible trade up is, we will have to wait until December 15th because Howard signed a contract, and I also think Chicago might want Welsh more than they want Howard.

After Trade Lineups.

Dallas:
PG: Nash, Best, Daniels
SG: Finley, Welsh, Bell
SF: Jamison, Marshall, TAW
PF: Dirk, Fortson, Najera
C: Bradley, Curry

Chicago:
PG: Crawford, Hinrich, Williams
SG: Rose, Howard, Gill
SF: Pippen, Robinson
PF: Fizer, Baxton, Austin
C: Chandler, Raef, Bagaric

Any thoughts?

[uberfan]

Trade Mills to Wizards for Etan Thomas and Larry Hughes. Let Hughes shake hands with the other former GSW and then move him on if a better deal comes up later.

[EricaLubarsky]

I love Curry's play. Mmmmmmmmm

[jayC]

Why? andrei is a role player at best so you would be willing to trade a two time all-star for a role player. This one is as dumb as they come.

[jayC]

Why? andrei is a role player at best so you would be willing to trade a two time all-star for a role player. This one is as dumb as they come.

[MavsFanatik33]

Yeah, and then what... Best starts? Also, we have Jamison...why would we need Kirilenko?... and OSTERTAG SUCKS!

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally posted by: MavsFanatik33
Yeah, and then what... Best starts? Also, we have Jamison...why would we need Kirilenko?... and OSTERTAG SUCKS!

Ostertag is great. He should get best supporting model for half the dunk posters out there.

[MFFL]

Originally posted by: EricaLubarsky

Ostertag is great. He should get best supporting model for half the dunk posters out there.

LOL - and Bradley is on the other half.

[EricaLubarsky]

LOL - and Bradley is on the other half.

[Nash13]

Here's one that's sounds kinda good:

Dallas trades: C Raef LaFrentz (9.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 0.8 apg in 23.4 minutes)
SF Chris Mills (4.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 12.5 minutes)
SG Tariq Abdul-Wahad (4.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 14.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: SG Antonio McDyess (4.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 14.6 minutes)
C Travis Knight (1.9 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.0 minutes)
C Michael Doleac (4.4 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 0.6 apg in 13.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -11.9 ppg, -5.3 rpg, and -2.4 apg.

New York trades: SG Antonio McDyess (4.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 14.6 minutes)
C Travis Knight (1.9 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 9.0 minutes)
C Michael Doleac (4.4 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 0.6 apg in 13.9 minutes)
New York receives: C Raef LaFrentz (9.3 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 0.8 apg in 69 games)
SF Chris Mills (4.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21 games)
SG Tariq Abdul-Wahad (4.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 14 games)
Change in team outlook: +11.9 ppg, +5.3 rpg, and +2.4 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

[Nash13]

Here's one that will never happen:

Dallas trades: PG Steve Nash (17.7 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 7.3 apg in 33.1 minutes)
SF Chris Mills (4.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 12.5 minutes)
SF Antawn Jamison (22.2 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 39.3 minutes)
Dallas receives: PF Pat Garrity (10.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 31.9 minutes)
PF Drew Gooden (12.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 26.8 minutes)
SF Tracy McGrady (32.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.4 minutes)
C Andrew DeClercq (4.7 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.7 apg in 17.2 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +15.3 ppg, +8.9 rpg, and -1.4 apg.

Orlando trades: PF Pat Garrity (10.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 31.9 minutes)
PF Drew Gooden (12.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 26.8 minutes)
SF Tracy McGrady (32.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.4 minutes)
C Andrew DeClercq (4.7 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.7 apg in 17.2 minutes)
Orlando receives: PG Steve Nash (17.7 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 7.3 apg in 82 games)
SF Chris Mills (4.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21 games)
SF Antawn Jamison (22.2 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 82 games)
Change in team outlook: -15.3 ppg, -8.9 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

[PlAyMaKeR]

we must trade mills and some others backups for a young center and a backup.

I'd do this:

Chris Mills and Raef Lafrentz
for
Brad Miller and Brent Price

[Ummmmm Ok]

Originally posted by: Nash13
Here's one that will never happen:

Dallas trades: PG Steve Nash (17.7 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 7.3 apg in 33.1 minutes)
SF Chris Mills (4.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 12.5 minutes)
SF Antawn Jamison (22.2 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 39.3 minutes)
Dallas receives: PF Pat Garrity (10.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 31.9 minutes)
PF Drew Gooden (12.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 26.8 minutes)
SF Tracy McGrady (32.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.4 minutes)
C Andrew DeClercq (4.7 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.7 apg in 17.2 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +15.3 ppg, +8.9 rpg, and -1.4 apg.

Orlando trades: PF Pat Garrity (10.7 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 31.9 minutes)
PF Drew Gooden (12.5 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 26.8 minutes)
SF Tracy McGrady (32.1 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.4 minutes)
C Andrew DeClercq (4.7 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.7 apg in 17.2 minutes)
Orlando receives: PG Steve Nash (17.7 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 7.3 apg in 82 games)
SF Chris Mills (4.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21 games)
SF Antawn Jamison (22.2 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 82 games)
Change in team outlook: -15.3 ppg, -8.9 rpg, and +1.4 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

We would only have Best or Daniels as the Point guard, but DAMN! Finley, McGrady, and Dirk all playing on the court for the D-Mavs? Damn!!! BTW, we would have to send them more than Mills, Maybe Raef?

[Nash13]

Ummmmm Ok, Steve Nash is in that too.

[Nash13]

Here's another one:

Dallas trades: SF Chris Mills (4.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 12.5 minutes)
SG Tariq Abdul-Wahad (4.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 14.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: SG Eddie Jones (18.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.7 apg in 38.1 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +9.6 ppg, -0.5 rpg, and +1.1 apg.

Miami trades: SG Eddie Jones (18.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.7 apg in 38.1 minutes)
Miami receives: SF Chris Mills (4.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21 games)
SG Tariq Abdul-Wahad (4.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 14 games)
Change in team outlook: -9.6 ppg, +0.5 rpg, and -1.1 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Due to Dallas and Miami being over the cap

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally posted by: PlAyMaKeR
we must trade mills and some others backups for a young center and a backup.

I'd do this:

Chris Mills and Raef Lafrentz
for
Brad Miller and Brent Price

ummm....no.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally posted by: Nash13
Here's another one:

Dallas trades: SF Chris Mills (4.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 12.5 minutes)
SG Tariq Abdul-Wahad (4.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 14.6 minutes)
Dallas receives: SG Eddie Jones (18.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.7 apg in 38.1 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +9.6 ppg, -0.5 rpg, and +1.1 apg.

Miami trades: SG Eddie Jones (18.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 3.7 apg in 38.1 minutes)
Miami receives: SF Chris Mills (4.8 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 1.1 apg in 21 games)
SG Tariq Abdul-Wahad (4.1 ppg, 2.9 rpg, 1.5 apg in 14 games)
Change in team outlook: -9.6 ppg, +0.5 rpg, and -1.1 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Due to Dallas and Miami being over the cap

Too bad one move is all many teams need to make the playoffs in the East. Miami thinks they have what it takes so I dont think Miami is getting rid of their most promising SG.

[PlAyMaKeR]

I think's a good trade for mavs but Tariq's a great player and Nellie doesn't use him very much... I think Tariq must be the Finley's first backup and trade another one with mills to miami for eddie jones.

[Ummmmm Ok]

I figured I would bring this Thread BACK up with all the trade rumors that are going around now. Heres mine for the day:

1. Dallas trades: SF Eduardo Najera (6.7 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 23.0 minutes)
   Dallas receives: C Tyson Chandler (9.2 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 24.4 minutes)
   Change in team outlook: +2.5 ppg, +2.1 rpg, and 0.0 apg.
   
   Chicago trades: C Tyson Chandler (9.2 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 1.0 apg in 24.4 minutes)
   Chicago receives: SF Eduardo Najera (6.7 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 48 games)
   Change in team outlook: -2.5 ppg, -2.1 rpg, and 0.0 apg.

This is a HOMER trade and it supports the Mavs! Chicago has no reason whatsoever to do this trade, unless they have full faith in Curry being their future. I wouldn't have even posted it if I didn't think Cuban and Nellie could pull it off. They seem to get the better of deals this summer and if we can't get Curry *which we never would* than why not get his backup.

[grndmstr_c]

For that matter how about TAW and Fortson for Antonio Davis, to bring up a tired name that has once again been brought up by our buddies at hoopsworld (though for some reason they think we should trade AJ for him. Yeah, right). Of course, again, it would never happen, as it would end up costing Toronto quite a bit more in the long run.

[Ummmmm Ok]

Well I was trying to do a trade where we could find a young Center for the future that would be here for a couple of years. Antonio Davis is a 6'9" Power Forward in the West but plays Center in the East. I would rather go with 7'1" Tyson Chandler who IS actually tall enough to play Center in the West. If I am not mistaken Chandler is only like 21 or something too. When the season starts we will only be using Najera for spurts anyways, why not go ahead and get Chandler to play center than you can move Fortson back to his real position to backup Dirk in the PF position.

Edit: Grammer Purposes *its my downfall*

[grndmstr_c]

Ummmmmm, cause neither trade would ever happen. But as long as we're in fantasy land, since different players were involved we could just do both.

[madape]

Chicago won't trade Chandler or Curry for anything short of Dirk. They have staked their future in these guys and both look like absolute studs right now. A stright up proposal of Najera for Chandler is not just ridiculous.... it's certifiably STOOOOOOOPID!!!!!!!

[Ummmmm Ok]

So Ape, would you do a trade of Jamison for Chandler/Eddie Robinson?

[sike]

Originally posted by: madape
Chicago won't trade Chandler or Curry for anything short of Dirk. They have staked their future in these guys and both look like absolute studs right now. A stright up proposal of Najera for Chandler is not just ridiculous.... it's certifiably STOOOOOOOPID!!!!!!!

huh? oh I did really have much to say, I just wanted to make sure that you read this previous post...cuz it flat out the truth

[madape]

Originally posted by: Ummmmm Ok
So Ape, would you do a trade of Jamison for Chandler/Eddie Robinson?

Absolutely. I'm a huge fan of Chandler. He's going to be a superstar.

[inter1488]

its not that dumb