2008 Texas Rangers Thread - Page 20 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

alby · 08-05-2008, 10:35 PM

Eddie for the win.

chumdawg · 08-05-2008, 10:36 PM

Wow...A-Rod was alllllllmost safe there.

Caseman · 08-05-2008, 10:37 PM

God, I love fired-up Eddie. He is Tiger Wood's fist pumps + Dwight Howard's gorilla scream.

Flacolaco · 08-05-2008, 10:38 PM

Why doesn't CJ Wilson just nip off and shoot himself.

alby · 08-05-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Holy cow, this is one hell of a series

You mean a Rangers domination?

2-0 baby

Kirobaito · 08-05-2008, 10:51 PM

How about we win the last two games, though!

Tomorrow Tomtom gets to shine on national TV.

DirkFTW · 08-05-2008, 11:03 PM

DoublePlayFTW!

chumdawg · 08-05-2008, 11:09 PM

Did someone say Matt Harrison is 22? He looks 35!

mkat · 08-05-2008, 11:50 PM

...it was never 5-4 tonight.

jthig32 · 08-06-2008, 07:19 AM

CJ being hurt really throws a wrench into things next season. They have to figure out whether his failures this season were due to injury. If they decide, healthy or otherwise, that he's just not a closer, then they have to either identify a closer curerntly in the organization or go get one, if we want to compete next year.

*sigh*

Darth Ape · 08-06-2008, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

CJ being hurt really throws a wrench into things next season. They have to figure out whether his failures this season were due to injury. If they decide, helthy or otherwise, that he's just not a closer, then they have to either identify a closer curerntly in the organization or go get one, if we want to compete next year.

*sigh*

Watch out for Neftali Feliz.

jthig32 · 08-06-2008, 07:34 AM

I don't think they're going to rush Feliz up here before 2010, and it will be a pretty serious disappointment if he ends up a closer. He's the only top of the rotation prospect we have above A ball right now.

SMC0007 · 08-06-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Caseman

Wright has seemed to turn it around (including his outing last night). Maybe Ceej can too?

I hope the Rangers get those 4 runs back.

Man CJ needs to be fired, well demoted immediatly. He should not throw another pitch in the majors anytime soon, at least for us! He has some heat and thats it. He can't control it and is definitely not elusive with his pitches. Thank goodness for WRight who you indeed has turned it around, and steady Eddie has been great. Now if we could finish the sweep....

SMC0007 · 08-06-2008, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

CJ being hurt really throws a wrench into things next season. They have to figure out whether his failures this season were due to injury. If they decide, healthy or otherwise, that he's just not a closer, then they have to either identify a closer curerntly in the organization or go get one, if we want to compete next year.

*sigh*

CJ don't have the rocks or the pitches to close on a playoff/contender level. Eddie can close and let Wright share duty in the 7th -8th.. It's obvious that CJ has made his bed and continues to belly flop all over it.

jthig32 · 08-06-2008, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

CJ don't have the rocks or the pitches to close on a playoff/contender level. Eddie can close and let Wright share duty in the 7th -8th.. It's obvious that CJ has made his bed and continues to belly flop all over it.

There's no gurantee Eddie will even be pitching next season, much less pitching for us. You have to identify someone with a little tread on the tires to be closer if you expect to be a contender over the next several seasons.

CJ may not be cut out for it, but people need to remember that he was really, really good last season. REALLY good. It's just that very few people paid attention to the Rangers last season. They're doing well this season so they start to tune in and see CJ getting lit up.

I'm not convinced he has what it takes anymore, but I'm not ready to write him off yet.

And btw, CJ most certainly has the pitches. If he doesn't have the pitches very, very few do. The question is whether he has the control, and whether he has anything in his head.

dalmations202 · 08-06-2008, 09:51 AM

Everything I am reading says CJ has bone spurs on the elbow and is about to undergo surgery. I wish him well, but the Rangers need a closer this year.

jthig32 · 08-06-2008, 09:57 AM

Well I think Eddie is your closer while CJ is out, possibly the rest of the season. Really I'm not real concerned about who closes the rest of this season. What I'm concerned about is whether they need to go get a closer this offseason.

Flacolaco · 08-06-2008, 10:08 AM

Interesting point of view at the DMN Rangers blog:

http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/ar...t-matters.html

DirkFTW · 08-06-2008, 10:17 AM

Wow, I noticed that incident but didn't think much more of it... just figured CJ was ready to get the heck out of there and couldn't wait any more.

jthig32 · 08-06-2008, 10:18 AM

Meh. I'm of the opinion that most chemistry is created by winning. If this team kicks off a 10 game losing streak tonight, you won't be seeing any stories about everyone pulling in the same direction and picking each other up.

I like Evan Grant but he's been overly critical of CJ in the past.

Obviously the organization shares his view to an extent, but to say Wilson's ball flip was THE story of last night is ridiculous.

alby · 08-06-2008, 10:21 AM

are we really 6 games over .500? =)

SMC0007 · 08-06-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

There's no gurantee Eddie will even be pitching next season, much less pitching for us. You have to identify someone with a little tread on the tires to be closer if you expect to be a contender over the next several seasons.

CJ may not be cut out for it, but people need to remember that he was really, really good last season. REALLY good. It's just that very few people paid attention to the Rangers last season. They're doing well this season so they start to tune in and see CJ getting lit up.

I'm not convinced he has what it takes anymore, but I'm not ready to write him off yet.

And btw, CJ most certainly has the pitches. If he doesn't have the pitches very, very few do. The question is whether he has the control, and whether he has anything in his head.

Did Eddie say he was uninterested in playing next year? I mean if he is having such success this season and is feeling ok why not be a big part of something like what potential could happen here. Let's not look too far ahead, we could make the playoffs this year and as we have seen, it ain't over till it's over with this team (offensive group). Confidence is a dangerous thing!

I have seen CJ pitch well, last year... But when I say he doesn't have the pitches I guess I should say more than that, he just isn't elusive and doesn't fool the hitters enough. Maybe it's his injury but I haven't seen him throw anything but a lil heat and weak curve balls aka the meatball. HE had confidence ast year but he needs to improve his pitches, period.

sike · 08-06-2008, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by alby

are we really 6 games over .500? =)

heck

jthig32 · 08-06-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Did Eddie say he was uninterested in playing next year? I mean if he is having such success this season and is feeling ok why not be a big part of something like what potential could happen here. Let's not look too far ahead, we could make the playoffs this year and as we have seen, it ain't over till it's over with this team (offensive group). Confidence is a dangerous thing!

I have seen CJ pitch well, last year... But when I say he doesn't have the pitches I guess I should say more than that, he just isn't elusive and doesn't fool the hitters enough. Maybe it's his injury but I haven't seen him throw anything but a lil heat and weak curve balls aka the meatball. HE had confidence ast year but he needs to improve his pitches, period.

Eddie might not pitch next season because his arm could fall off at any time. His shoulder is still pretty shaky. I'm all for bringing him back next season, but I don't want to be depending in him to be the closer becasue of his age and injury concerns.

Flacolaco · 08-06-2008, 07:56 PM

The Yankees just needed to get down to the bottom of their order before they started putting runs on the board..

Flacolaco · 08-06-2008, 10:32 PM

Who in the hell is Tommy Hunter?

And the Rangers get beat by someone they cut this year.

That game sucked. That's my expert sports analysis for you.

jthig32 · 08-07-2008, 07:32 AM

Tommy Hunter is a rookie, drafted in the first round just last season. He made it through the minors faster than any Ranger player in a long, long time.

dalmations202 · 08-07-2008, 08:27 AM

Dang I like the look of their young pitchers.

If they can just get a little development from them -- watch out -- because they look good.

Hunter, Harrison, Madrigal, even Mendoza all look like they can make it in the bigs.
If they can get McCarthy healthy by next year, and make sure they keep Padilla and get Millwood healthy --- they might be up there. Millwood might even be expendable for a true closer.

mkat · 08-07-2008, 05:47 PM

Millwood MIGHT be expendable? i'm pretty sure he's on the first train outta here in the off season if they can get ANYTHING for him. I hope they keep Padilla, though. I like the guy.

alby · 08-07-2008, 08:40 PM

Through 5 innings, Feldman has shown great, great stuff... he just didn't get any run support.

Five-ofan · 08-08-2008, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Well I think Eddie is your closer while CJ is out, possibly the rest of the season. Really I'm not real concerned about who closes the rest of this season. What I'm concerned about is whether they need to go get a closer this offseason.

why not go with frankie in that role? Hes got the arm for it and our long term closer is going to be one of him or madrigal (if its not a converted starter) so id like to see if he can do it...

And please dont go sign a closer. Tommy hunter has good enough stuff to be a successful big league pitcher right now but i didnt think his pitch sequencing was very good. He got too predictable and both his fastball and curveball are good enough to be outpitches if you are looking for the other.

Caseman · 08-12-2008, 06:32 PM

So it's 7-0... bottom of the 1st...

Discuss.

Flacolaco · 08-12-2008, 08:05 PM

10-12

This is stupid

jthig32 · 08-12-2008, 08:38 PM

15-14 Rangers......

I got nothing.

Kirobaito · 08-12-2008, 08:38 PM

15-14

Are you kidding me.

jthig32 · 08-12-2008, 08:50 PM

Madrigal has been pretty dang solid after his horrible debut in New York. Pretty exciting considering how early he is in his pitching career.

Kirobaito · 08-12-2008, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Madrigal has been pretty dang solid after his horrible debut in New York. Pretty exciting considering how early he is in his pitching career.

ERA of about 2.5 since then. His velocity has also gone up, not sure why, but he's been going 95-96 for about a month now, when it was more like 92-93. There's your future closer.

Marlon Byrd is absolutely ungodly right now.

Caseman · 08-12-2008, 09:55 PM

Frankie sucks.

Discuss.

Flacolaco · 08-12-2008, 09:57 PM

PITCHING.

What pitcher wouldn't want to come here this off-season?

16 runs a game...think you might win?

Caseman · 08-12-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Flacolaco

PITCHING.

What pitcher wouldn't want to come here this off-season?

16 runs a game...think you might win?

17 runs.

You think the pitchers the Rangers already have would be pumped that they have a 2-run lead in a game they have no business being in. And what happens? Wright's throw turns a simple out into a throwing error/run. Frankie comes in and has all power, but no control. He has 2 outs, guys on 1st and 2nd, pitching to a slugger. And what does he do? He pitches straight down the pooper and gives them an easy lead.

Rangers' pitching IQ: 2

I just want this season to be over with. The Rangers' pitching is pulling on my heart string.