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Thought this might be worthy of a bump.
"@RealLamarOdom Off to lay with my lady. Early workout in the am. Going hard"
LOL! Going hard. Good one Lamar.
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04-19-2012, 11:21 AM
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This thread belongs here
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04-19-2012, 11:49 AM
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04-20-2012, 11:02 AM
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Odom just didn't seem to put much effort into his play, im glad Cuban got rid of him.
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Thought this might be worthy of a bump.
"@RealLamarOdom Off to lay with my lady. Early workout in the am. Going hard"
LOL! Going hard. Good one Lamar.
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Maybe he means Khloe is going hard. 'Cause she has a penis.
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Maybe he means Khloe is going hard. 'Cause she has a penis.
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Lmao!
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Dallas Mavericks Vote Against Giving Lamar Odom Share of Playoff Money
To say that Lamar Odom’s tenure with the Dallas Mavericks was an epic failure would be an understatement.
Saturday night, after being bounced from the playoffs in just four games by the Oklahoma City Thunder, the Mavs’ true feelings for their former teammate became evident when they voted not to share their playoff money with their former teammate. His share would have been around $14,000.
After receiving Odom from the Los Angeles Lakers in December, the Mavs were hoping that the NBA’s Sixth Man of the Year last season would come in and contribute immediately to a team that had suffered some huge losses from their NBA Championship team from last season.
However, for whatever reason, it wasn’t meant to be.
Despite being asked to be traded, it was clear that Odom never wanted to be in Dallas in the first place and it showed on the court.
In his time with the Mavericks, Odom averaged just 6.6 points and 4.2 rebounds per game. He was held to a career low 35.2% shooting average and played just 20.5 minutes per game, also the lowest of his career.
During halftime of an April 7 game, Mark Cuban dismissed Odom from the team in what was rumored to be an ugly confrontation, claiming that he simply didn’t like his attitude and the way he carried himself on the court. He was then placed on the inactive list for the remainder of the season.
The Mavericks will try their best to trade Odom. If another team picks him up by June 29, they will have to pay a buyout price of $2.4 million. It’s too soon to tell if Odom is just going through a slump or if his basketball career has simply faded.
That said, either way, I can’t blame the Mavericks whatsoever for leaving him out of the playoff share. It was clear from the very beginning that Lamar didn’t want to be in Dallas and never attempted to make himself a part of the team, despite his teammates best attempt at accepting him.
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05-07-2012, 05:58 PM
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Odom will happily accept a minimum contract from LA to be 5th string big man behind Bynum Gasol Hill Murphy lol
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Source: Lamar Odom prefers Knicks
Who will Lamar Odom play for next season? That's currently out of his control. He's under contract with the Dallas Mavericks, who likely will trade him or waive him.
But a source with knowledge of Odom's thinking says the New York Knicks would be "on the top of his list" if the Queens native becomes a free agent.
"Lamar is big on being comfortable," the source said. "And New York is somewhere he can be comfortable."
The Knicks' interest in Odom is unclear at this point.
They likely will be limited in their spending this summer. New York is expected to use its mid-level exception to retain restricted free-agent Jeremy Lin, which would leave the organization with little money to spend on free agents.
It's also unclear at this point if Odom will become a free agent.
The Mavs are expected to attempt to trade Odom before June 29. Any team that has Odom on its roster on that date must buy him out for $2.4 million or otherwise accept responsibility for the full $8.2 million that Odom is scheduled to earn in 2012-13.
If Dallas can't deal Odom in a trade, it likely will waive him and be responsible for paying him $2.4 million in guaranteed money. That's something Dallas would rather avoid.
If Odom is waived by Dallas, he would be a free agent. In that scenario, he'd likely have to take a significant pay cut from the $8.2 million he was scheduled to make this season to sign with another team.
But if New York comes calling, Odom will be interested.
"He wants to find a place where he can end his career, and New York is ideal," the source said. "He's won championships in the past and he wants to win another. And to do it there would be great."
It makes sense that Odom would be open to a return to New York.
His versatility -- interior scoring and rebounding in particular -- would be of great value to the Knicks' second unit. He proved in Los Angeles that he can thrive off the bench in a supporting role on a team with stars in its starting five. Odom helped the Lakers win two titles in that role.
He's also coming off a season in which his value has taken a significant hit.
A rocky year in Dallas ended with Odom spending the final nine games of the regular season on the inactive list. The Mavericks placed Odom on the inactive list as a way to sever ties while retaining the ability to trade him.
The 33-year-old's stint in Dallas was heavy on drama and light on production. During halftime of his final game with the Mavs, Odom and team owner Mark Cuban had a heated exchange in the locker room.
Earlier in the season, Odom took a 10-game hiatus from the team for personal reasons. After the team placed Odom on the inactive list, Cuban said he'd hoped Odom's departure was "addition by subtraction."
The 13-year veteran averaged career lows of 6.6 points and 4.1 rebounds in 20.5 minutes per game in Dallas.
The source close to Odom said Odom is eager to put the experience past him. Odom has started offseason workouts already, with eyes on an Olympic roster spot and with the motivation to prove that he's a better player than the one who struggled through last season.
"It definitely won't be the fiasco that it was last year," the source said of Odom's approach to 2012-13.
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He can prefer them all he wants, they can't pay him that much. They still have to take care of Lin, probably want to keep Novak too.
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This part is hilarious:
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How mad would you be if he went somewhere like NY or LAC or LAL for the vet minimum and put up similar numbers to his sixth man of the year season.
I honestly think the chances are about 80% that will happen.
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How mad would you be if he went somewhere like NY or LAC or LAL for the vet minimum and put up similar numbers to his sixth man of the year season.
I honestly think the chances are about 80% that will happen.
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I'd be disappointed, but not mad to the point where I want to crucify the guy. Things happen. Due to timing and etc, things just didn't work out in Dallas. There isn't anything that can happen to fix his performance with the Mavericks over this season. It's in the past...leave it there.
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I'd be disappointed, but not mad to the point where I want to crucify the guy. Things happen. Due to timing and etc, things just didn't work out in Dallas. There isn't anything that can happen to fix his performance with the Mavericks over this season. It's in the past...leave it there.
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It just kills me that he's working hard all summer and will be ready to jump back in, but we are the only team he defintevly won't be playing for. I was super excited when we signed him. I remember clearly thinking that he was s terrible matchup for Dirk to defend in our sweep of LA. I thought it was silly how little LA went away from it.
I was a Lamar Odom apologist until Dirk and Rick wouldn't talk about him in that press conference. If we had gotten the Lamar of last year or next year I think we'd have won 5 more games & maybe made some good playoff noise.
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It just kills me that he's working hard all summer and will be ready to jump back in, but we are the only team he defintevly won't be playing for. I was super excited when we signed him. I remember clearly thinking that he was s terrible matchup for Dirk to defend in our sweep of LA. I thought it was silly how little LA went away from it.
I was a Lamar Odom apologist until Dirk and Rick wouldn't talk about him in that press conference. If we had gotten the Lamar of last year or next year I think we'd have won 5 more games & maybe made some good playoff noise.
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Its also entirely possible that his best seasons are behind him. Odom's never been known as the hardest worker. He's old enough that maybe he cant skate by on sheer talent and effortlessly put up double-doubles anymore.
He also had some pretty terrible things happen in his life. And even before that was considered a somewhat shaky psyche.
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How mad would you be if he went somewhere like NY or LAC or LAL for the vet minimum and put up similar numbers to his sixth man of the year season.
I honestly think the chances are about 80% that will happen.
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Odom really isn't worth the electrons spent discussing him. His legacy is one of a quitter, so much so that his team felt they were better off without him in town than on the court. So irrelevant that his teammates wouldn't even give him a playoff share. They would rather give it to Kelenna azubuike than him.
He is a mote.
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It just kills me that he's working hard all summer and will be ready to jump back in, but we are the only team he defintevly won't be playing for. I was super excited when we signed him. I remember clearly thinking that he was s terrible matchup for Dirk to defend in our sweep of LA. I thought it was silly how little LA went away from it.
I was a Lamar Odom apologist until Dirk and Rick wouldn't talk about him in that press conference. If we had gotten the Lamar of last year or next year I think we'd have won 5 more games & maybe made some good playoff noise.
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With that said, Scrody quit on his team. That is inexcusable no matter what. Dirk was out of shape but never quit. I'm not sure any player has ever quit on his team the way Scrody did.
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Mavs Activate Odom Talk; Lakers Deal Doable
Conventional wisdom says the Mavs can't trade Lamar Odom back to the Lakers in expedient fashion. But we've discovered a loophole. Involved is negotiating with Odom for a revised deadline date - and sources tell DB.com that the Mavs have initiated talks to do just that. Here's the inside story of what's up - and what can happen as the Mavs work to turn Odom into a perfect-fit trade asset:
What will happen with Lamar Odom? The Dallas Mavericks don't want him back. He loves LA and Lakers coach Mike Brown has recently expressed interest in having him back. Yet it seems rules are in the way right now to make it easy for the Mavs to move him, or for him to play for the Lakers.
But DallasBasketball.com has exclusively learned that the possibilities and his destination may change significantly, and that the cogs are in motion so that the change may come soon.
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On Wednesday the LA Times' Mike Bresnahan and Mark Medina wrote the following:
As for Odom, the NBA is standing firm on the relatively new rule that players cannot return to their old teams for a full year after being traded, a change made in the new collective-bargaining agreement last December.
Players formerly had to wait one month before rejoining teams that traded them, sometimes negotiating quick buyouts from their new team to go back to their old one, a scheme the NBA thwarted by creating the revision in December.
(Odom) was traded to Dallas on Dec. 11 for a first-round pick that the Lakers subsequently sent to Houston in the Derek Fisher trade.
Odom would have to miss about six weeks of the season if he waited to join the Lakers in December, an unlikely event according to a person familiar with the situation.
The Lakers could offer Odom the $3-million mini mid-level exception next season or $1.4 million, the veteran's minimum for a player with his experience.
All of that is true at the moment -- as Bresnahan and Medina noted, Odom (as a multi-year contract player) can't be waived by Dallas and signed by LA until December. But ....
Dallasbasketball.com has learned that the Mavs are working on taking a significant step that would allow Odom's return to the Lakers this summer, opening up multiple avenues.
A highly-placed league insider tells us the Mavs are already pursuing a revision to Odom's contract that would move his deadline to buy out his last year at $2.4 million from June 29, 2012 to some time in July, a contractual change that is permitted by the league with mutual agreement from both player and team.
That would make a major difference in Odom's future possibilities, especially as it pertains to the Lakers.
The primary difference that revision permits is to open up a trade of Odom from Dallas to LA, which is not only his simplest route to the Lakers, but in many ways is the best choice for all parties involved. That option is currently blocked by the rule that disallows a player to be traded back to the same team in the same NBA season (which ends June 30), and the Mavs would not want to keep him past the June 29 deadline and take the chance of being committed to his $8.2 million salary for next season.
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Would Dallas and LA shy away from helping each other? Probably not. At the moment their path to the top isn't blocked by each other, but by OKC and SA, and all they are worried about is helping their own cause in finding a way to pass the Thunder and the Spurs.
Is there a reason for Odom and agent Schwartz to turn down Dallas’ proposal? We don’t think so. One, Jeff Schwartz (who also reps Deron Williams and Jason Kidd) has a solid relationship with the Mavs. And two, Odom might want to explore free agency if he thinks he can make more than his $8.2 million. But the market (and his performance in Dallas) wouldn’t seem to merit such a raise. Remember, too: Even if the Lakers consider him worth more than $8.2 mil, all they have available is the aforementioned $3 million mini-MLE.
This trick is the way for Odom to get his team and his money.
For Dallas, that change opens the door to an eager taker for a player they no longer want. They wouldn't have to pay his $2.4 million buyout fee or bribe some other team to do so, because there would be no buyout. And by moving the time frame to July, a trade to LA could become part of the salary-matching for the Mavs in a three-way deal. (Think of Marion coming to Dallas for Stackhouse's similar contract, or Chandler to Dallas for Dampier.)
July 1 begins a very active free agency environment. For Dallas that time focuses on Deron Williams. But the transformation of Odom's contract into an asset (in another form, as just an expiring, we’ve termed it, “LOAF’’) suddenly ranks high in importance, too.
For the Lakers, they would get Odom for a full season including training camp, giving him plenty of time to learn the new system under Mike Brown, a coach he's never played for. In addition, it would allow LA the ability to preserve their MLE for a different addition.
And for Odom, he gets to the team he wants, and he plays there for $8.2 million rather than $3 million or less.
Everybody wins.
There are other ways this deadline revision could help Odom get to the Lakers. But even if LA doesn't trade for him, a revision makes it much easier for the Mavs to trade him, with his large almost-vanishing contract becoming a huge trade-matching tool. Even if he gets traded to another team besides LA and then waived, the one-year rule would no longer prevent him from going to the Lakers, as the restriction from returning after a trade-and-waiver would then be applied to Dallas rather than LA.
Odom seemingly has to wait until December if he wants to go to the Lakers, and has to play there for peanuts? The Mavs have Odom as a liability rather than an asset? The Lakers can't get Odom until December and have to use their MLE to do so? Those may have been true yesterday, but the Mavs are already working to erase all of those and change the summer landscape significantly for everyone.
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In a nutshell, we're hoping to revise Odom's contract (allowable under the CBA if team and player agree on terms) so we can trade him before his contract is fully guaranteed. The writer seems to think that this may all mean that he ends up back in LA. If we can fleece them for an extra pick to go along with the TE, I'm all for it.
How does acquiring a TE affect our cap space? Can we still sign Deron and use the exception to pick up another player, or does the exception count against our cap number before it's used?
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet:
http://mavericks.scout.com/2/1193046...SkYmM4.twitter
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Conventional wisdom says the Mavs can't trade Lamar Odom back to the Lakers in expedient fashion. But we've discovered a loophole. Involved is negotiating with Odom for a revised deadline date - and sources tell DB.com that the Mavs have initiated talks to do just that. Here's the inside story of what's up - and what can happen as the Mavs work to turn Odom into a perfect-fit trade asset:
What will happen with Lamar Odom? The Dallas Mavericks don't want him back. He loves LA and Lakers coach Mike Brown has recently expressed interest in having him back. Yet it seems rules are in the way right now to make it easy for the Mavs to move him, or for him to play for the Lakers.
But DallasBasketball.com has exclusively learned that the possibilities and his destination may change significantly, and that the cogs are in motion so that the change may come soon.
On Wednesday the LA Times' Mike Bresnahan and Mark Medina wrote the following:
As for Odom, the NBA is standing firm on the relatively new rule that players cannot return to their old teams for a full year after being traded, a change made in the new collective-bargaining agreement last December.
Players formerly had to wait one month before rejoining teams that traded them, sometimes negotiating quick buyouts from their new team to go back to their old one, a scheme the NBA thwarted by creating the revision in December.
(Odom) was traded to Dallas on Dec. 11 for a first-round pick that the Lakers subsequently sent to Houston in the Derek Fisher trade.
Odom would have to miss about six weeks of the season if he waited to join the Lakers in December, an unlikely event according to a person familiar with the situation.
The Lakers could offer Odom the $3-million mini mid-level exception next season or $1.4 million, the veteran's minimum for a player with his experience.
All of that is true at the moment -- as Bresnahan and Medina noted, Odom (as a multi-year contract player) can't be waived by Dallas and signed by LA until December. But ....
Dallasbasketball.com has learned that the Mavs are working on taking a significant step that would allow Odom's return to the Lakers this summer, opening up multiple avenues.
A highly-placed league insider tells us the Mavs are already pursuing a revision to Odom's contract that would move his deadline to buy out his last year at $2.4 million from June 29, 2012 to some time in July, a contractual change that is permitted by the league with mutual agreement from both player and team.
That would make a major difference in Odom's future possibilities, especially as it pertains to the Lakers.
The primary difference that revision permits is to open up a trade of Odom from Dallas to LA, which is not only his simplest route to the Lakers, but in many ways is the best choice for all parties involved. That option is currently blocked by the rule that disallows a player to be traded back to the same team in the same NBA season (which ends June 30), and the Mavs would not want to keep him past the June 29 deadline and take the chance of being committed to his $8.2 million salary for next season.
Would Dallas and LA shy away from helping each other? Probably not. At the moment their path to the top isn't blocked by each other, but by OKC and SA, and all they are worried about is helping their own cause in finding a way to pass the Thunder and the Spurs.
Is there a reason for Odom and agent Schwartz to turn down Dallas’ proposal? We don’t think so. One, Jeff Schwartz (who also reps Deron Williams and Jason Kidd) has a solid relationship with the Mavs. And two, Odom might want to explore free agency if he thinks he can make more than his $8.2 million. But the market (and his performance in Dallas) wouldn’t seem to merit such a raise. Remember, too: Even if the Lakers consider him worth more than $8.2 mil, all they have available is the aforementioned $3 million mini-MLE.
This trick is the way for Odom to get his team and his money.
For Dallas, that change opens the door to an eager taker for a player they no longer want. They wouldn't have to pay his $2.4 million buyout fee or bribe some other team to do so, because there would be no buyout. And by moving the time frame to July, a trade to LA could become part of the salary-matching for the Mavs in a three-way deal. (Think of Marion coming to Dallas for Stackhouse's similar contract, or Chandler to Dallas for Dampier.)
July 1 begins a very active free agency environment. For Dallas that time focuses on Deron Williams. But the transformation of Odom's contract into an asset (in another form, as just an expiring, we’ve termed it, “LOAF’’) suddenly ranks high in importance, too.
For the Lakers, they would get Odom for a full season including training camp, giving him plenty of time to learn the new system under Mike Brown, a coach he's never played for. In addition, it would allow LA the ability to preserve their MLE for a different addition.
And for Odom, he gets to the team he wants, and he plays there for $8.2 million rather than $3 million or less.
Everybody wins.
There are other ways this deadline revision could help Odom get to the Lakers. But even if LA doesn't trade for him, a revision makes it much easier for the Mavs to trade him, with his large almost-vanishing contract becoming a huge trade-matching tool. Even if he gets traded to another team besides LA and then waived, the one-year rule would no longer prevent him from going to the Lakers, as the restriction from returning after a trade-and-waiver would then be applied to Dallas rather than LA.
Odom seemingly has to wait until December if he wants to go to the Lakers, and has to play there for peanuts? The Mavs have Odom as a liability rather than an asset? The Lakers can't get Odom until December and have to use their MLE to do so? Those may have been true yesterday, but the Mavs are already working to erase all of those and change the summer landscape significantly for everyone.
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The biggest takeaway is that an extension of time would be huge. It means they wouldn't be set on having to get something done leading up to the draft.
Talking to some people, I've come across a few examples (not many) where this has actually taken place. It all really comes down to the agent and Odom signing off on letting this work for the Mavs.
I don't see the financial benefit for LA to go for Odom right now. They would probably just want him with their mini MLE, instead of the full terms of his current deal. Would it change it Gasol is gone? It's possible, but who knows what they're getting in return for him. It might be a little more feasible if it's all part of a 3-way or bigger deal where the Lakers aren't hurt as much by taking Odom back in.
It's a pretty interesting scenario. If it plays out, it can definitely help the Mavs.
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http://mavericks.scout.com/2/1193046.html
In a nutshell, we're hoping to revise Odom's contract (allowable under the CBA if team and player agree on terms) so we can trade him before his contract is fully guaranteed. The writer seems to think that this may all mean that he ends up back in LA. If we can fleece them for an extra pick to go along with the TE, I'm all for it.
How does acquiring a TE affect our cap space? Can we still sign Deron and use the exception to pick up another player, or does the exception count against our cap number before it's used?
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Trade exceptions count against the cap, but can be (have to be) renounced to clear cap space. If we had enough room to sign Deron and keep the TPE, then we could hypothetically use the TPE to pick up talent and I think TPEs are extremely valuable right now with the CBA. There are some great players out there that aren't free agents that teams would part with simply to save salary. TPEs also make sign-and-trade deals much easier.
If we can get rid of Odom and get a TPE in the process, that is a no-brainer.
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Yea, extending the deadline would be huge for us, but can't see the Lakers taking on the full salary. Saw somewhere they were at 78 million for 7 players. The extension buys us a new section of the NBA calendar to work with...giving us more options.
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06-08-2012, 06:24 PM
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I was actually going to post that article yesterday, but I wasn't in the mood to talk about Tyson Chandler anymore...
But in all seriousness, it definitely looks like getting rid of Odom isn't going to be too difficult with all the options that are available.
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06-08-2012, 07:08 PM
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So if we get the extension, how do we look at it capwise regarding Williams? Adding Odom's number to the cap, we'd be at 44 million, Dirk, Marion, Wood and now Odom. That leaves 16 million, given Deron, who could be maxed at 17-18 million. This is all before Boobs, Jones, the option for Wright, Kelenna.
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06-08-2012, 07:19 PM
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I was actually going to post that article yesterday, but I wasn't in the mood to talk about Tyson Chandler anymore...
But in all seriousness, it definitely looks like getting rid of Odom isn't going to be too difficult with all the options that are available.
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But don't you get that Chandler will make it possible for Odom to be traded after June?
I've seen some of the stuff being discussed over there (db.com) like Odom/Marion for Pau Gasol. So that would make it Deron/Dirk/Gasol as a possible trio. Not bad but giving up Marion would be tough.
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06-08-2012, 08:04 PM
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Hmm. It certainly wouldn't hurt Dallas in any way for Odom to agree to push back the date that the last year of his contract becomes guaranteed, so this might be good news.
Not sure I buy that it's about the Lakers, though. There are so many possible ways that the Mavs could benefit from having a little more time to work something out with Odom, and putting off the all-but-inevitable by a couple weeks would be extremely unlikely to cost Odom in the way of money or options, seeing as how he's not going to be at the top of anybody's free agent wish list after his craptacular fail from last season, and will probably end up having to wait for other dominoes to fall before getting any firm FA offers regardless of when he's waived.
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06-08-2012, 08:21 PM
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Hmm. It certainly wouldn't hurt Dallas in any way for Odom to agree to push back the date that the last year of his contract becomes guaranteed, so this might be good news.
Not sure I buy that it's about the Lakers, though. There are so many possible ways that the Mavs could benefit from having a little more time to work something out with Odom, and putting off the all-but-inevitable by a couple weeks would be extremely unlikely to cost Odom in the way of money or options, seeing as how he's not going to be at the top of anybody's free agent wish list after his craptacular fail from last season, and will probably end up having to wait for other dominoes to fall before getting any firm FA offers regardless of when he's waived.
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But what if pushing the date back would allow for a trade...to a place he doesn't want to go?
Or, what if he would like to go ahead and secure a multi-year deal now, rather than next summer? Don't know how likely that would be, but I'm just thinking about the reasons he might say no.
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06-08-2012, 08:23 PM
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But what if pushing the date back would allow for a trade...to a place he doesn't want to go?
Or, what if he would like to go ahead and secure a multi-year deal now, rather than next summer? Don't know how likely that would be, but I'm just thinking about the reasons he might say no.
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Lamar Odom doesn't have the option to say "no" - he's contractually bound to whatever Dallas decides to do with him.
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06-08-2012, 08:37 PM
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Lamar Odom doesn't have the option to say "no" - he's contractually bound to whatever Dallas decides to do with him.
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I think you misread.
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06-08-2012, 09:26 PM
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I think you misread.
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Yep...
Hey, when did your avatar disappear?
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06-08-2012, 09:31 PM
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Yep...
Hey, when did your avatar disappear?
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Today. Decided to retire the jersey. It was a hell of a playoff run in '11, but no sense living in the past. Plus, that SMC guy doesn't like it.
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06-08-2012, 10:55 PM
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I can't imagine any team that Odom doesn't want to play for trading for him with the intention of doing anything other than releasing him. I can barely imagine a team that he wants to play for trading for him with the intention of doing anything other than releasing him.
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06-09-2012, 01:50 AM
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Today. Decided to retire the jersey. It was a hell of a playoff run in '11, but no sense living in the past. Plus, that SMC guy doesn't like it.
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Bring the tiger back! And that Nelson-Avery sig too.
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If I don't see a 'Toine Walker sig from chum within the next few days, I'm convinced he's given up on this whole thing.
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06-09-2012, 10:37 AM
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If Odom agrees to move his extension, and we get a good to great player for his pathetic ass...then all is forgiven.
We just need to get Deron already. Spirits and these boards better pick up if he chooses us. God help us if he chooses otherwise...the Chandlerites might start burning some witches.
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06-09-2012, 11:51 AM
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If Odom agrees to move his extension, and we get a good to great player for his pathetic ass...then all is forgiven.
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Not really....... but at least he will have been worth SOMETHING.
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06-11-2012, 12:29 PM
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But what if pushing the date back would allow for a trade...to a place he doesn't want to go?
Or, what if he would like to go ahead and secure a multi-year deal now, rather than next summer? Don't know how likely that would be, but I'm just thinking about the reasons he might say no.
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The bottom line for any possible Odom trade is moving him to a team that wants to save money. Only 2.4 of Odom's salary is guaranteed. I read he can be traded for up to 8.2 million in return. That's a 5.8 million savings for the team receiving Odom for the sole reason to waive him. And in the today's NBA economics, that is a good amount with the lux tax rates set to increase, based on varying reasons, one of which is historical expenditures. Odom will be cut this summer, he will collect his 2.4 million and then seek employment elsewhere, now a team offering him a multi year deal after the season he just had, is out of their minds. In addition if the Lakers are his team of choice, he won't be able to sign/join them until late December(one year after the trade from LA to Dallas), if Dallas is the team that waives him. So if he pushes back the option deadline, it opens up another avenue for Odom to pursue with the Lakers.
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