Heroes

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by sike

did you also notice that in the future Sylar was being remembered as a dead hero?...I found that interesting.

ack! I totally missed that. I guess I'll watch it again.
There was also a couple hints that the gov. would embark on an "eliminate the mutants" campaign. Maybe Sylar was a hero for the people that were for that.

[u2sarajevo]

Originally Posted by sike

800 posts for heroes...what has the wold come to...

First explain what the wold is and then I will tell you if I can.... I'm sure I could google it but I'm too lazy.

[sike]

Originally Posted by u2sarajevo

First explain what the wold is and then I will tell you if I can.... I'm sure I could google it but I'm too lazy.

touche.

[DavidDaMonkey]

I don't know how long they can milk the shapeshiftinghottie. Using her too much is going to become way too obvious. Although I have to admit, they completely had me when they had her posing as Niki with Micah.

[sike]

Originally Posted by DavidDaMonkey

I don't know how long they can milk the shapeshiftinghottie. Using her too much is going to become way too obvious. Although I have to admit, they completely had me when they had her posing as Niki with Micah.

"not I" said the pig.

[Flacolaco]

Now that was just good television

[MFFL]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

Now that was just good television

Yep - the alternative character developments were amazing!

[Flacolaco]

You can tell the writers were having fun with a timeline that didn't matter....how many did they kill off? Claire, Nathan, the Hatian, Hiro.... lol

Really solid episode.

And now we know what Hiro must do.... but what does that have to do with stopping the bomb?

[ames7]

Wow. I can't believe how great that was.

[Big Boy Laroux]

that was just a great hour of TV. loved when nathan was revealed to be sylar (although that was somewhat alluded to in sylar's oval office painting last week).

so sylar has killed the following people in the last 5 years - nathan, DL, shape-changing girl (forget her name), claire, Ted, am i missing anyone?

Peter was just a badass.

[Flacolaco]

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

that was just a great hour of TV. loved when nathan was revealed to be sylar (although that was somewhat alluded to in sylar's oval office painting last week).

so sylar has killed the following people in the last 5 years - nathan, DL, shape-changing girl (forget her name), claire, Ted, am i missing anyone?

Peter was just a badass.

I forgot about DL...good observation. that was certainly alluded to wasn't it?

Man this S*** is going to be crazy.

[Big Boy Laroux]

you know, the entire plot line was a huge x-men rip-off, but i didn't give a shit. this one episode was light years better than any of the x-men movies. and it didn't even have close to the same special effects. hell, we didn't actually even SEE peter and sylar fight. but it was still bad-ass.

and i found the shapeshifting girl's name - candace.

[fluid.forty.one]

What happened in the first 20 minutes? I missed it... I started watching about when future hiro got tazered and peter saved him

[Flacolaco]

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

and i found the shapeshifting girl's name - candace.

Her name is hotty Mc'Hotness

And this episode was greatness. The only question I have left about this show, is when in the hell does the DVD come out?

[ames7]

DL got mentioned along with the reference to Molly Walker, who I'd totally forgotten about. I love how this show doesn't forget stuff. HRG (who is btw no longer HRG! those glasses weren't horn-rimmed anymore! sadness!) says to Matt something about giving up DL, Molly & Candace. Molly Walker is the little girl from Episode 2 that Matt rescued the first time his power showed up. Molly's dad is also the one that had the ice power that Sylar used on Claire, I'm assuming so she couldn't spontaneously heal (like Peter did when he tried to kill him), & then used against Peter's fire (from when he met Claire's mom at some point??) in the end. Nifty.

I still hate Niki in the future, plus she's more useless than ever. So...what? Jessica is dead(?), does that mean Niki doesn't have a power at all? Yawn.

Just an exceptionally done one-episode what-if. This show is so awesome. I simultaneously can't wait to see the last 3 episodes & dread that this season is going to be over soon.

[aexchange]

ok, maybe this is just a plot hole, but can somebody explain this:

Future Hiro travels back in time to tell Peter Petrelli to save Claire, presumably because in the future timeline Sylar kills Claire and absorbs her power there by making her invincible when Hiro tries to kill him in the past.

So with that in mind, how can Claire still be alive in the future timeline? And why does Sylar need her powers?

[aexchange]

oh and worth noting:

Brunette Claire >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blonde Claire.

Thank you.

[Usually Lurkin]

great observations, ames7! I thought Peter's fire came from radioactiveman, though.

Sylar is going to have to survive at least till next season, right? He's too good a badguy to be killed off. It's funny how what he's doing is so evil in this show, but was something we rooted for in (and was the entire premise of) the Highlander series.

[Flacolaco]

Originally Posted by aexchange

oh and worth noting:

Brunette Claire >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blonde Claire.

Thank you.

My wife was not happy with me for vehemently proclaiming this last night...

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by aexchange

ok, maybe this is just a plot hole, but can somebody explain this:

Future Hiro travels back in time to tell Peter Petrelli to save Claire, presumably because in the future timeline Sylar kills Claire and absorbs her power there by making her invincible when Hiro tries to kill him in the past.

So with that in mind, how can Claire still be alive in the future timeline? And why does Sylar need her powers?

Sylar needs her powers cause they are cool. I think by saving the cheerleaders life, Sylar didn't get her powers, so when Hiro stabbed her, Sylar would have died - but 1) Hiro went to the future, so wasn't there to stab him, or 2) Peter was the one that blew up (and future Hiro didn't know that. Maybe at somepoint he'll figure it out, and then go back to stab Peter instead of Hiro)

My "plot-hole" question is: why would future Hiro have to send past Hiro back to stab Sylar? Why not just go back and do it himself?

[Big Boy Laroux]

Originally Posted by ames7

DL got mentioned along with the reference to Molly Walker, who I'd totally forgotten about. I love how this show doesn't forget stuff. HRG (who is btw no longer HRG! those glasses weren't horn-rimmed anymore! sadness!) says to Matt something about giving up DL, Molly & Candace. Molly Walker is the little girl from Episode 2 that Matt rescued the first time his power showed up. Molly's dad is also the one that had the ice power that Sylar used on Claire, I'm assuming so she couldn't spontaneously heal (like Peter did when he tried to kill him), & then used against Peter's fire (from when he met Claire's mom at some point??) in the end. Nifty.

ames, i saw the peter/sylar fight in the hallway as them both using Ted's powers. Remember, Ted can glow white ("burn bright, not hot") in addition to orange. I do agree that it looked like sylar froze claire (it wasn't obvious, but she was turning blue as sylar opened her head).

[Ninkobei]

so when peter comes in contact with sylar, why doesnt he absorb all of sylars powers...thus making peter the more powerful one

and has peter not tried to go back in time?

I guess when a tv show messes with this many powers there are bound to be some loose ends. thats okay I forgive you Heroes.

[Usually Lurkin]

Sylar must have something to do with the explosion, right? Or else why would Peter be willing to help Hiro go back to kill Sylar to stop the explosion?


man, this show is cool.

[Big Boy Laroux]

ninkobei, i think that's because peter may not have the same experience with the powers that their natural owner has. they've had years to perfect their powers. After all, present-time hiro isn't great at time traveling yet. Peter is probably not sure where he'd end up.

[big_pth]

hiro didn't stab Slyar, he stabbed peter, who was probably disguised as Sylar by Sylar or Candace...

[Big Boy Laroux]

huh?

in the original timeline (where Future Hiro did not go back in time to tell peter about the cheerleader - which is annoying, because Hiro obviously knew her name - why not say "save claire bennett"), peter never met claire, so sylar killed her and took her power.

hiro stabbed sylar before he could go off as the bomb (apparently sylar killed Ted as well), but since he had claire's power, he regenerated and still exploded.

but that has all been made moot because peter has now saved claire. now we're looking to the buildup as to why peter becomes the bomb instead.


It seemed that everyone in this future timeline was surprised that peter was alive (well, sylar, parkman, and mohinder, at least). i guess they all thought he died with the bomb?

[Flacolaco]

"Save Claire Bennett, Save the World"

Doesn't have quite the same ring to it

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

It seemed that everyone in this future timeline was surprised that peter was alive (well, sylar, parkman, and mohinder, at least). i guess they all thought he died with the bomb?

What they need is a giant machine with which one of the "special" people (maybe someone like Parkman, but more powerful?) can at any one time see where in the world are all the other individual "special" people, just by virtue of their brainwaves. Now from what set of stories could they steal such a machine?

[Big Boy Laroux]

hmmm, that is a completely original idea! then no one would be surprised.

maybe Professor S could use such a machine, but he doesn't have any powers...

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

maybe Professor S could use such a machine, but he doesn't have any powers...

well, there is his super-genius level of idiocy. I mean seriously, how many times can one genius be unwittingly used by the same bad guy in a single lifetime? It's, it's . . . uncanny. I guess he does have the name for it.

[Big Boy Laroux]

i got this from another board, but thought it was funny. Suresh has the power of superfluous exposition.

[Dtownsfinest]

Who was the chic working with HRG trying to help the good "mutants" or whatever Heroes calls them? Is that the chic that who could type using her brain? Did they just write that character out of the show?

[Big Boy Laroux]

that was her. Hana.

[ames7]

My DVR cut out before next week's promo. Heard it looks awesome...maybe I'm missing it, I can't find it on the NBC website, anyone know if it's online anywhere?

[sike]

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

you know, the entire plot line was a huge x-men rip-off, but i didn't give a shit. this one episode was light years better than any of the x-men movies. .

X2 was pretty dang solid.

great show last night...how fun an idea: "What If"...very cool.

[Dirkgreatness]

Smallville is better imo.

[Ninkobei]

Originally Posted by Dirkgreatness

Smallville is better imo.

blaspheme!

[sike]

Originally Posted by Dirkgreatness

Smallville is better imo.

dumb

[Dirkgreatness]

Originally Posted by sike

dumb

Yo momma! Haha, its just hard for me to get into Heroes since i haven't seen it since the beginning and i've watched smallville since 7th grade (season 1). So yeah, i'm pretty much a hardcore smallville fan.

[fluid.forty.one]

last nights episode blew my mind