Gortat appears* bound for a team not named the Dallas Mavericks - Page 23 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Mavsfan4ever · 07-13-2009, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Oh boo hoo, they can go buy a solid gold wheelchair.

I said I would feel horrible but, I'll take feeling horrible if Otis screws us over. Because then I will want the most vile accident ever to befall that man.

badfish22 · 07-13-2009, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

See this is why the 7 gay waiting period sucks. It's like, there's this train of gays that Orlando has available to fall in love with the Hammer, and if you're a Dallas fan you just have to sit there and watch all these gays go by in Orlando, talking about what they're going to do with his polish sausage, and then like 4 gays into the train of gays they blow their load on him, and as a Dallas fan you're left standing there, stripped bare for three gays all standing there thinking, "hey, what about us?" This totally reams, man.

And with that this thread is officially legendary.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 07-13-2009, 02:32 AM

I think it's going to be hilarious if the Magic actually don't match. Then that whole Magic forum made complete asses of themselves, and even signed up here to try to rub it in for nothing. They drooled all over that guy who supposedly predicted it right just like he (supposedly) did with the Bass signing. So if it doesn't happen, the dude was probably f-ing with them! (is he a Mavs fan?)

So if Gortat is a Mav, some of us should go to their forum and really f with them.

kingofthesmurfsP · 07-13-2009, 02:33 AM

i've read all of your guys comments, and i have to agree this is the best thread so far

CapitanObvious · 07-13-2009, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs

I think it's going to be hilarious if the Magic actually don't match. Then that whole Magic forum made complete asses of themselves, and even signed up here to try to rub it in for nothing. They drooled all over that guy who supposedly predicted it right just like he (supposedly) did with the Bass signing. So if it doesn't happen, the dude was probably f-ing with them! (is he a Mavs fan?)

So if Gortat is a Mav, some of us should go to their forum.

i will definitely be there

mavs777 · 07-13-2009, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs

I think it's going to be hilarious if the Magic actually don't match. Then that whole Magic forum made complete asses of themselves, and even signed up here to try to rub it in for nothing. They drooled all over that guy who supposedly predicted it right just like he (supposedly) did with the Bass signing. So if it doesn't happen, the dude was probably f-ing with them! (is he a Mavs fan?)

So if Gortat is a Mav, some of us should go to their forum and really f with them.

No doubt, I'm in

moldy_hobo · 07-13-2009, 02:39 AM

Do not doubt the almighty MOLDY HOBO.

CapitanObvious · 07-13-2009, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by moldy_hobo

Do not doubt the almighty MOLDY HOBO.

isnt that going too far?

moldy_hobo · 07-13-2009, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CapitanObvious

isnt that going too far?

Put it this way, Damp better step it up this year.

chumdawg · 07-13-2009, 02:44 AM

That was a lot of sucking, over nothing.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 07-13-2009, 02:44 AM

Dude has got to be loving the attention he's getting. (moldy_homo) He's being idolized on their forum and now ours?

Just stop already.

mavs777 · 07-13-2009, 02:44 AM

nvm notice it

sefant77 · 07-13-2009, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by moldy_hobo

Do not doubt the almighty MOLDY HOBO.

You doesnt have much other joy in life than posting stuff like that on the internet, or?

moldy_hobo · 07-13-2009, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs

Dude has got to be loving the attention he's getting. (moldy_homo) He's being idolized on their forum and now ours?

Just stop already.

Hey....whats the point of inside information if u don't share it with the townspeople

mavs777 · 07-13-2009, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by moldy_hobo

Do not doubt the almighty MOLDY HOBO.

lol seems we are popular can this chit get any more funny?

pkdumas · 07-13-2009, 02:47 AM

Why are all you bastards awake?

chumdawg · 07-13-2009, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by moldy_hobo

Put it this way, Damp better step it up this year.

Mod edit.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 07-13-2009, 02:49 AM

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to moldy_hobo again.

(here's a hint, it wasn't positive rep the first time. Nor was it going to be the 2nd)

mavs777 · 07-13-2009, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by pkdumas

Why are all you bastards awake?

Well you are?

I am on the west so it is just nearing 1

nowhereman · 07-13-2009, 02:49 AM

http://dallasbasketballdotcom.yuku.c...bably-b-s.html

The following from Real GM post: :
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In all seriousness, I'm calling BS on this once again. Upon further research, this is what I came up with from the original thread (http://orlandomagiczone.com/eve/forums/ ... 101463/p/1):

1) The OP of the original thread started the topic 1 hour and 20 minutes after the broadcast ended. Nobody else reported it during this time. I find it hard to believe that he'd want to "break the news" 80 minutes after he saw the report. To those who claim "people aren't always on their computers"- it doesn't take 80 minutes to get on the computer and for someone who posted "if you weren't a believer then, you'll be a believer now, I'm 2/2" then I'd assume he'd want to share the info as soon as he got it.

2) There are 3.5 "confirmations." Normally I wouldn't be skeptical of a few different independent confirmations but here is the information about each: The OP joined on 7/10/09 (yeah, a few days ago). The two other confirmations joined in Feb of this year one day apart from each other. Coincidental? Maybe. Multiple accounts? More likely. Oh and the .5? Someone claims his friend called him to tell him that he saw the report on TV.

3) This news was so breaking that one person claimed it interrupted a show to do it (and risk losing advertising revenue) but not put it on its site? In addition, there are NO indications ANYWHERE on the internet that this is even true. Only 3 people in all of ORL saw this?

4) The person who claimed to have watched on here was RANDOMLY flipping through channels and happened to come up to this very report? Coincidence? Perhaps. Conspiracy? More likely.

5) The OP on this thread says that he could be wrong and cites the Truman article. That was based on a prediction not a confirmation. When was Truman confirmed to be President? The newscaster confirmed that Gortat would be resigned (by all people's accounts of the situation).

moldy_hobo · 07-13-2009, 02:50 AM

Goodbye.

mavs777 · 07-13-2009, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by moldy_hobo

Goodbye.

He likes Polish Sausages

edit: f U Mary

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 07-13-2009, 02:54 AM

This is a bigger who done it than JFK ever thought about being.

The Gortat Conspiracy.

mary · 07-13-2009, 02:54 AM

F me?

Whatever.

CapitanObvious · 07-13-2009, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by moldy_hobo

Goodbye.

mavs777 · 07-13-2009, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mary

F me?

Whatever.

jk, I was just about to quote him, chill

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 07-13-2009, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

He likes Polish Sausages

edit: f U Mary

Umm Mary banned the guy, and put goodbye dumbass in his post. (Unless Mary is indeed the culpret, and banned herself.)

mary · 07-13-2009, 02:57 AM

I'm going to ban myself now.

otown · 07-13-2009, 02:58 AM

duplicate accounts aren't allowed

OttoOC · 07-13-2009, 03:01 AM

Whether it happens or not Moldy Hobo is so full of crap you can smell it from here. He has no "sources" other than a little common sense and a coin flip, yet he's getting the God treatment over there for being 1 for 1.

My own sources tell me the AL will win the all-star game this year, T.O. will wear out his welcome in Buffalo, and a black dude will win the next dunk contest. King me.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 07-13-2009, 03:02 AM

I just looked on weeklyworldnews.com and no mention of Magic matching Gortat.

So it can't be true.

This was indeed on weeklyworldnews.com, though.

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WASHINGTON, DC – After shutting down a resolution to honor Michael Jackson this week, Nancy Pelosi was voted House Party Pooper.

Pelosi put an end to a possible resolution that would have paid tribute to the recently deceased musician this week. She claimed that Congress could express their condolences individually but such a measure would waste valuable government time. The House then passed a nearly unanimous vote naming Pelosi the House Party Pooper.

The Party Pooper Resolution is merely the culmination of a long string of events in Congress. Nancy Pelosi voted down Congressional Casual Fridays last spring, and moving session to a local TGI Fridays a month later. These moves, aimed at forcing Congress to address health care reform and climate change without the distraction of Hawaiian shirts and drink specials, earned her enemies on both sides of the aisle. During a late session addressing the financial bail out, partisan opponents agreed to terms that would settle their differences with a Beer Pong tournament. Pelosi shot this measure down as well, forcing the leaders to put away the Official Congressional Beer Pong Table.

Pelosi was also staunchly opposed to a House vs. Senate kickball game held last month. Representatives avoided her opposition by holding the game on a Sunday, and changing the date without telling her. Congress beat the Senate yet again and police are currently investigating several grams of cocaine and two missing interns related to the event.

As part of the Party Pooper Resolution Pelosi will be forced to wear a silly hat while presiding over Congress, until either she can find a snipe or does a keg stand.

mavs777 · 07-13-2009, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by otown

duplicate accounts aren't allowed

haha

sefant77 · 07-13-2009, 03:04 AM

We will get our Polish Hammer.

And the Magic fans will get their polish sausages next season...rectal

CapitanObvious · 07-13-2009, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

We will get our Polish Hammer.

And the Magic fans will get their polish sausages next season...rectal

Maybe they would POLISH our HAMMER

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 07-13-2009, 03:15 AM

DLord does a pretty good job of debunking the Gortat/Ch. 6 rumor on db.

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Kids ...kids ...kids ...what have fish and I taught you all these years? "Don't believe everything someone says on an internet board, without something to back it up."

Let's break down this "ch 6 in Orlando said it" story. Point by point, here's what's going on.

1. Friday on a Magic chat forum, a brand new poster opens an account and says the Magic are signing Bass. Claims he has inside info. It precedes the signing getting out from the media, so when they get confirmation within an hour or less, he's acclaimed as a genuine insider. Discussion and praise ensues.
2. Saturday he comes back again, cites his earlier prediction as his bona fides of being a genuine insider, and says he knows for a fact Gortat will be matched and that it will be announced Monday. Sources? None. Can't say. Discussion and praise ensues.
3. Sunday he comes back again and trumpets that he just heard on the ch 6 news in Orlando that the Magic will match on Monday, thereby validating his prediction. Oddly, no one else in Orlando heard the story, but no biggie for most. Discussion and praise ensues.
4. Someone goes from there to the realGM boards and shares the news on the GENERAL NBA board. The same thing happens on the realGM Orlando board. The report is (and this is an important distinction): someone on a Magic chat forum saw a ch 6 news item saying Gorata would be matched on Monday. Discussion and praise ensues.
5. People now see 3 or more separate forum discussions going and jump to a conclusion: a bunch of people in Orlando saw this item on the news and are talking about it. It's cetainly a fact. But the reality is this: one guy (not coincidentally, the one who had a vested interest) SAID he saw it. A bunch of people reacted and passed the tale along.
6. Has anything been announced by the Magic? No.
7. Is it on ESPN crawl? No.
8. Is it on ESPN news? No.
9. Is it on ESPN.com? No.
10. Is it on the Orlando Sentinel website? No.
11. Is it on the ch 6 Orlando site? No. You can even pull up their list of sports stories of the day, and there's nothing pertaining to Gortat.

Post 81 by SmokeMaxx on this page -->> http://dallasbasketballdo...29348?page=9 also contains his digging, and he essentially came back with the same observations I did. A gold star to him for that hard work, too!!!!

Now let me add one other crucial point - we can't PROVE nothing might happen, because even if the internet stuff is BS (and I see nothing to make me think it's valid), there are still two options and one of them is that Gortat gets matched. Nothing matters until Orlando puts their signature on a match, or until they decline to match. The deadline is Wednesday.

It's also interesting that at one point in the conversation, the tale got expanded to say the report also said Barnes and Ratliff were going to be signed.

To review a few facts on the idea in general:
1. If Gortat gets matched, they can't turn around and trade him to another suitor anytime soon. They must keep him until at least Dec 15, well after the season starts and after all the teams have set their rosters. Then they can only trade him to a team he approves, and it can't be Dallas. (Those limits last for a year.)
2. On a trade, base year issues won't be in play, because Orlando has a trade exception. It would work just like a regular trade.
3. The idea floated by Magic fans is: "Orlando would be averse to paying that much salary to Gortat, but if they trade him that's not an issue." Not exactly true. The problem is, they'd still end up getting back at least $5M-ish and maybe more like $6M in trade-matching salary in such a trade, all of it taxable.
4. The other team will have to be a team that (a) wants MG, (b) is willing to pay him $34M over 5 years, and (c) will ALSO give up $5M in players that Orlando wants. Is there such a team with players that Orlando would gladly take, in that price range, that would also want MG? I can envision Houston having a degree of interest depending on Yao's long-term prognosis, but which $5-6M of players makes sense for both teams to move from HOU to ORL in such a deal?
5. The Mavs have been quite confident - per Sefko, who is a very solid reporter - they'll get Gortat. Orlando certainly has every right to match, and they also have the option to wait until the last minute either way, but do we think these GMs don't talk? Do we think Donnie/Cuban would have the rug pulled out from under them unexpectedly? If Smith is going to match, or if it's at least possible, I suspect that info would have been conveyed privately.

FROM A PURELY LOGICAL STANDPOINT: Except in sign-and-trade situations, teams don't tend to sign a player they don't intend to keep. Too much can go wrong between the signing and the trade to make that backfire badly. And I don't see any way that the Magic can justify almost $6M per year to a player who will be buried behind Howard. In addition, what's the market for Gortat at $34M? I see one possible team (Houston) that might be interested if the price wasn't too high, and that one is nothing better than a longshot. For tthose reasons, I think they'll pass.

I also find illuminating some comments Smith made Friday. After signing Bass, he was asked if that precluded Gortat. As the Orlando paper put it ...

Smith said the two deals don't necessarily have to do with each other. He also said he's figured out what he's going to do, but said he was "still working on a few other things ...Until those things transpire, it's a little bit premature for us to get into what we're going to do and what we're not going to do."

Have the other things transpired? No way. Orlando has done nothing new since Bass. Based on that, I take that as further confirmation that this is just one of those faux-insiders playing with people's reactions on the internet. And I still am inclined to think that in a few days, Gortat will be a Mav.

Either way, give it a few days and we'll see what happens. Until then, it's just unknowable.

mavs777 · 07-13-2009, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CapitanObvious

Maybe they would POLISH our HAMMER

I lol'd

Zaknaf3in · 07-13-2009, 05:06 AM

Could you guys please just stop it?
I am sitting in my car on an australian Maccas carpark to sneak into their free WIFI, and am laughing my ass off. People threw weird looks before, but now I see something else in their eyes. I better leave soon. Bye.

CanadianMavsFan · 07-13-2009, 07:36 AM

Even though I personally believe Gortat is gone, I still believe hobo is full of. For starters, he isn't the insider he claims to be. The Bass news was broken before his posts in various rumours, it took little more than an educated guess to claim that Bass would sign. Now, if he would have posted detailed contract information beforehand maybe he could make a believer out of me.

As far as Gortat goes, the news report that apparently appeared now appears to have been bogus. I am sad to say even I was duped last night before I hit the sack. Not to mention this very "humble" insider Mr. Hobo is now boasting on this site about how great he is.

jthig32 · 07-13-2009, 07:47 AM

Thread of the century.

Bayliss · 07-13-2009, 08:04 AM

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Thread of the century.

Easily. First ballot Hall of Famer. With the breaking news story this thread has officially been enshrined in Springfield.