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Underdog · 07-13-2014, 08:05 PM

@ESPNSteinLine: Rockets believed they could create trade exception if Mavs & Parsons agreed to re-do their deal as a sign-and-trade. However, Mavs understandably cool on the idea of helping a Texas neighbor escape with a valuable asset. So original offer sheet to Parsons stands.

Mav Addict · 07-13-2014, 08:10 PM

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@ESPNSteinLine: Rockets believed they could create trade exception if Mavs & Parsons agreed to re-do their deal as a sign-and-trade. However, Mavs understandably cool on the idea of helping a Texas neighbor escape with a valuable asset. So original offer sheet to Parsons stands.

Me personally I wouldn't help Houston, as long as Morey is the GM, I could care less of our basketball relationship.

sike · 07-13-2014, 08:12 PM

Help an in-state rival? Nope. Full on "SCREW THAT!"

Underdog · 07-13-2014, 08:17 PM

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Me personally I wouldn't help Houston, as long as Morey is the GM, I could care less of our basketball relationship.

Doesn't sound like we will... And at this rate, we might not have to deal with Morey much longer - dude is not as brilliant as advertised.

mavsfan1000 · 07-13-2014, 08:20 PM

Morey probably looking to resign Parsons at a cheaper price and possibly trading him somewhere else. Yeah don't help him.

Mav Addict · 07-13-2014, 08:24 PM

Cuban should tell him to stick this SnT deal in the same place he told him to stick that max offer to Dirk.

EricaLubarsky · 07-13-2014, 08:24 PM

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Morey probably looking to resign Parsons at a cheaper price and possibly trading him somewhere else. Yeah don't help him.

He literally couldn't have been gotten for cheaper, unless teams wanted a multi-year deal to come with. Parsons would be way more valuable in a trade as a 900k borderline star. Morey screwed up-- no buts about it.

ribosoma · 07-13-2014, 08:25 PM

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Morey probably looking to resign Parsons at a cheaper price and possibly trading him somewhere else. Yeah don't help him.

wat

mavsfan1000 · 07-13-2014, 08:31 PM

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He literally couldn't have been gotten for cheaper, unless teams wanted a multi-year deal to come with. Parsons would be way more valuable in a trade as a 900k borderline star. Morey screwed up-- no buts about it.

I wouldn't count out Morey doing some trickery. Still 150 minutes before he is ours for sure.

Underdog · 07-13-2014, 08:34 PM

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I wouldn't count out Morey doing some trickery. Still 150 minutes before he is ours for sure.

Pretty sure the clock stopped ticking on that one... Houston is out.

purplefrog · 07-13-2014, 08:35 PM

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He literally couldn't have been gotten for cheaper, unless teams wanted a multi-year deal to come with. Parsons would be way more valuable in a trade as a 900k borderline star. Morey screwed up-- no buts about it.

And he trades Lin + future first round pick + 2015 second round pick for Sergei Lishchuk (who?) in a salary dump to clear cap space for Bosh. Maybe Bosh crossed him up on this one, but it sure looks bad.

mavsfan1000 · 07-13-2014, 08:38 PM

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Pretty sure the clock stopped ticking on that one... Houston is out.

Donnie Nelson said they have until 11PM tonight to decide. Can the NBA stop a GM changing their mind? We know that Morey and Cuban aren't the best of friends. We'll see what happens

BGMaverick9 · 07-13-2014, 08:39 PM

ESPN.com had an article today with Bosh and the it sounded like the idea of being the man in Miami was more intriguing (money, too) than joining what was going on in Houston.

mavsfan1000 · 07-13-2014, 08:45 PM

Bosh is probably better with more touches. But he is no Lebron.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-13-2014, 08:46 PM

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@ESPNSteinLine: Rockets believed they could create trade exception if Mavs & Parsons agreed to re-do their deal as a sign-and-trade. However, Mavs understandably cool on the idea of helping a Texas neighbor escape with a valuable asset. So original offer sheet to Parsons stands.

Yep. I see no reason whatsoever to help them out after they gave us the F U the first time we tried a S&T.

sike · 07-13-2014, 08:48 PM

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Bosh... But he is no Lebron.

said everyone.

grndmstr_c · 07-13-2014, 08:59 PM

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Donnie Nelson said they have until 11PM tonight to decide. Can the NBA stop a GM changing their mind? We know that Morey and Cuban aren't the best of friends. We'll see what happens

I thought this myself when I saw the news first break, but all rational doubts evaporated when I saw that they'd communicated their decision to Parsons. Houston would pay a heavy price if they manipulated a player in a scheme like that.

Five-ofan · 07-13-2014, 09:14 PM

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And he trades Lin + future first round pick + 2015 second round pick for Sergei Lishchuk (who?) in a salary dump to clear cap space for Bosh. Maybe Bosh crossed him up on this one, but it sure looks bad.

His owner might have told him to get rid of the 15 million backup pg. Lin was a negative asset

ribosoma · 07-13-2014, 09:25 PM

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His owner might have told him to get rid of the 15 million backup pg. Lin was a negative asset

I think it was done initially to clear space for Melo, then plan B was Bosh, then plan C was a cocktail of Vicodin, Black Label, Ariza, and Cuban's ten-pounder with a championship ring on it.

Underdog · 07-13-2014, 09:27 PM

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I think it was done initially to clear space for Melo, then plan B was Bosh, then plan C was a cocktail of Vicodin, Black Label, Ariza, and Cuban's ten-pounder with a championship ring on it.

Post of the day.

purplefrog · 07-13-2014, 09:29 PM

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Post of the day.

without a doubt!

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-13-2014, 09:31 PM

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I think it was done initially to clear space for Melo, then plan B was Bosh, then plan C was a cocktail of Vicodin, Black Label, Ariza, and Cuban's ten-pounder with a championship ring on it.

...while costing them Asik, Lin, Casspi, a first rounder, and a second rounder in the process.

yahyes · 07-13-2014, 09:33 PM

Awesome. This could be the most underrated big fish. Can't wait to see him out with Monta and Dirk.

jamaljasonandjimmy · 07-13-2014, 09:35 PM

like i said he better play like a 15 mil dollar player and he should with that confidence boost. you can pay me the vet min. and i would play lights out cuban! i swear tah god!

Underdog · 07-13-2014, 10:09 PM

Chandler Parsons: "I viewed myself as an up & coming star in this league. They were the ones that made the offer & look at me like a franchise-max player. That's what I wanted. I want to be a priority. I want a bigger role. Mark Cuban and Coach Carlisle made that clear to me, that's how they view me & that's what I'll be in Dallas."

LonghornDub · 07-13-2014, 10:11 PM

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Morey probably looking to resign Parsons at a cheaper price and possibly trading him somewhere else. Yeah don't help him.

wat x2

VC25@dal · 07-13-2014, 10:19 PM

Congrats Mavs. Huge pickup imo, yes way overpriced but seems like a perfect fit.

Wish Vince was still here to bring the bench force that is lacking now..

WHY VINCE. WHY

hayth.james.g · 07-13-2014, 10:20 PM

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Chandler Parsons: "I viewed myself as an up & coming star in this league. They were the ones that made the offer & look at me like a franchise-max player. That's what I wanted. I want to be a priority. I want a bigger role. Mark Cuban and Coach Carlisle made that clear to me, that's how they view me & that's what I'll be in Dallas."

God I love the sound of this. Who knows maybe he is our next core franchise player. I don't realistically think he can be a #1, but he sure could be a solid #2. Who knows how much his game develops under Dirk and Carlisle.

Underdog · 07-13-2014, 10:22 PM

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God I love the sound of this. Who knows maybe he is our next core franchise player. I don't realistically think he can be a #1, but he sure could be a solid #2. Who knows how much his game develops under Dirk and Carlisle.

At his age the sky is the limit... Most people never thought Dirk would be a franchise player early in his career either.

Five-ofan · 07-13-2014, 10:27 PM

I think his offensive potential is pretty much untapped at this point. He's fall enough to be a stretch 4 if need be, he can handle and pass and he's not a bad rebounder. With the exception of defense he's a better player than Paul George. George is an absolutely elite defensive player so overall George is better but offensively? Gimme parsons.

sike · 07-13-2014, 10:29 PM

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Chandler Parsons: "I viewed myself as an up & coming star in this league. They were the ones that made the offer & look at me like a franchise-max player. That's what I wanted. I want to be a priority. I want a bigger role. Mark Cuban and Coach Carlisle made that clear to me, that's how they view me & that's what I'll be in Dallas."

There is nothing I don't love about that.

Five-ofan · 07-13-2014, 10:32 PM

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At his age the sky is the limit... Most people never thought Dirk would be a franchise player early in his career either.

I'm a big fan of parsons but lets not short change the big fella. At 24, the age parsons played at last year, dirk avged 25/10/3/1.4/1 as the undisputed best player on a 60 win team. Parsons has talent and the sky is the limit but dirk is one of the 10 best offensive weapons to ever play basketball.(I know you weren't comparing the two but Ill always take the opportunity to point out how great dirk was/is when given the chance.

hayth.james.g · 07-13-2014, 10:34 PM

Also wanted to add.... We have seen that we are not necessarily equipped to land the superstar free agents. They typically want a bigger market or something closer to home. Our superstar is not really buddy buddy with any of the other superstars in this league. He is on good terms, but they don't play Nintendo together. HOWEVER, and this may be pure speculation on my part, but it seems that almost every player who plays for us for a decent amount of time falls in love with Dallas. Cuban treats the players right. We have a locker room that is all about winning and showing respect to each other. I have full confidence in Cuban and Donnie to retain players that are of high value to the organization.

TLDR: The players Dallas gets... Dallas keeps (forget 2011 doesn't count BC I said so). Under Donnie and Cuban I foresee a long run of star quality players who will be long term fixtures for us. We may not be south beach, but we sure do know how to make a player feel important.

Underdog · 07-13-2014, 10:35 PM

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I'm a big fan of parsons but lets not short change the big fella. At 24, the age parsons played at last year, dirk avged 25/10/3/1.4/1 as the undisputed best player on a 60 win team.

Age doesn't trump experience - at 24, Dirk was in his 5th year, Parsons only his 3rd... Let's re-examine this discussion in 2 years.

sike · 07-13-2014, 10:39 PM

Just to add a thought...Parsons DOES seem to be a "buddy" with a lot of the league. He could be an asset on that front in the future.

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Also wanted to add.... We have seen that we are not necessarily equipped to land the superstar free agents. They typically want a bigger market or something closer to home. Our superstar is not really buddy buddy with any of the other superstars in this league. He is on good terms, but they don't play Nintendo together. HOWEVER, and this may be pure speculation on my part, but it seems that almost every player who plays for us for a decent amount of time falls in love with Dallas. Cuban treats the players right. We have a locker room that is all about winning and showing respect to each other. I have full confidence in Cuban and Donnie to retain players that are of high value to the organization.

TLDR: The players Dallas gets... Dallas keeps (forget 2011 doesn't count BC I said so). Under Donnie and Cuban I foresee a long run of star quality players who will be long term fixtures for us. We may not be south beach, but we sure do know how to make a player feel important.

G-Man · 07-13-2014, 10:39 PM

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Chandler Parsons: "I viewed myself as an up & coming star in this league. They were the ones that made the offer & look at me like a franchise-max player. That's what I wanted. I want to be a priority. I want a bigger role. Mark Cuban and Coach Carlisle made that clear to me, that's how they view me & that's what I'll be in Dallas."

Great quote. He sounds like he's ready to step up, and the Mavs are a team that will give him space. I can't wait to see what Carlisle dreams up to take advantage of his skill set. I'd love to see him pass like Diaw. The passing in 2011 won us a championship.

mavsfan1000 · 07-13-2014, 10:46 PM

14 more minutes.

hayth.james.g · 07-13-2014, 10:47 PM

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14 more minutes.

hahahahahahahaahaha

This guy is still counting down! man we were all messed up huh?

rabbitproof · 07-13-2014, 10:50 PM

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God I love the sound of this. Who knows maybe he is our next core franchise player. I don't realistically think he can be a #1, but he sure could be a solid #2. Who knows how much his game develops under Dirk and Carlisle.

Agree.

I've been trying to think of who Chandler P profiles to and the guy who comes to mind for me is Seattle SuperSonics Rashard Lewis.

6-9, long, athletic, can run, elite long game. CP probably has a little more of a playmaker profile but so-so rebounder and meh defender.

That's not a championship contender franchise player but a solid #2/#3. If he can be that, 15M is a fair price.

rabbitproof · 07-13-2014, 10:52 PM

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Just to add a thought...Parsons DOES seem to be a "buddy" with a lot of the league. He could be an asset on that front in the future.

Good point. Also, Parsons is young!

I think that, more than the buddy buddy-ness, got Dwight to Houston vs. Dallas. A medium/big fish is more likely to join Dallas when they can see running with young-and-coming CP for the duration of their prime vs. an aging Dirk for a couple years. When the cast is Dirk/Vince/Trix, you might feel like you're joining your uncle's team rather than your cousin's.