06-30-2022, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson
Losing Brunson for nothing sucks but I'd rather do that then pay him 26m a year, especially if we have Dinwiddie and I rly like Hardy's future upside for down the road.
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I would much rather have just paid Brunson, but it sounds like the Mavs didn't even have the chance, so I guess I can't be mad at them- other than for not extending him months ago, but whatever. It is what it is.
As for Hardy... yes, I'm just crossing my fingers hoping to god that he turns out to be this amazing sleeper for us. Because the way things are right now, I don't really see a path forward to surrounding Luka with the talent needed to win a title unless we get insanely lucky- like if Hardy turned out to be a star. Or even just a starter. For us to put another star next to Luka, I feel like one has to fall out of the sky, because we're never getting one in free agency and we don't have the assets to trade for one either.
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06-30-2022, 10:05 PM
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#882
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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson
Losing Brunson for nothing sucks but I'd rather do that then pay him 26m a year, especially if we have Dinwiddie and I rly like Hardy's future upside for down the road.
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The problem is we're still at the salary cap WITHOUT Brunson, so if nothing else we could have used Brunson as a trade chip later. Instead we lose him for nothing.
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06-30-2022, 10:09 PM
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#883
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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson
Losing Brunson for nothing sucks but I'd rather do that then pay him 26m a year, especially if we have Dinwiddie and I rly like Hardy's future upside for down the road.
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I have a feeling Hardy could become an impact player sooner if given the opportunity early on.
One of the main reasons it wouldn?t bother me if we don?t sign Dragic.
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06-30-2022, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rimrocker
We?ll have a pretty big starting lineup if McGee starts.
In fact the shortest player currently on roster is Hardy at 6?4.
Rebounding shouldn?t be a problem this season.
Luka 6?7
THJ/SD 6?6
DFS 6?7
Wood 6?10
McGee 7?0
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Bullock is a starter.
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06-30-2022, 10:33 PM
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#885
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Originally Posted by Amarelooms
Disagree - Javel is exactly center we need. Can finish. Rebound / block shots and play d. I?ll pay 6 mil a year for that no problem.
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My argument was that I?d rather have Drummond at $3million over Javele at $6.6 million or whatever it is. I don?t hate the Javele signing. We needed a big that does what Javele?s skill set provides.
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06-30-2022, 11:28 PM
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Adrian Wojnarowski: Minnesota Timberwolves star Karl-Anthony Towns has agreed on a four-year, $224M super max extension, his agent Jessica Holtz of @CAA_Basketball tells ESPN. Deal begins with the 2024-25 season and delivers Towns? total contract value to six years and $295M. ? via Twitter wojespn
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06-30-2022, 11:30 PM
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Adrian Wojnarowski: Memphis Grizzlies star Ja Morant has agreed on a five-year, $193M designated rookie maximum extension that could become worth $231M, his agent Jim Tanner of @_TandemSE tells ESPN. ? via Twitter wojespn
Adrian Wojnarowski: Booker and Towns? representative, Jessica Holtz, is the first female player agent to secure a max contract ? and did it with two super max deals on the same day. Booker and Towns? representative, Jessica Holtz, is the first female player agent to secure a max contract ? and did it with two super max deals on the same day. ? via Twitter wojespn
Damn good for her. I bet she?s partying it up tonight.
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06-30-2022, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Chicago got Drummond for 2/6.6. See that's why it's a little irritating that we had to pay 20 to get Javale.
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Well I'll say this....McGee offers more to what the Mavs need than Drummond does. Drummond is not really a shot blocker or contester. He does rebound well. I'm really shocked by the perception of Drummond though. He's not a bad player. I get the league has gone away from centers like him but for 20 minutes a night? you can do far worse.
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06-30-2022, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BPo001
Is he $14 million dollars better? I think Drummond is the better rebounder, and probably scorer. Javele has more length and shot blocking/shot altering ability though I think.
I?d probably rather have Drummond at his price if it meant spending bigger money on a wing. Oh well Javele will have a role on this team.
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Yeah I can get behind him being a better fit but 14 million better? Hell no. Hell I think Drummond is a better player but McGee is a better fit.
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07-01-2022, 01:42 AM
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https://thesmokingcuban.com/posts/lu...-cup-qualifier
A little positivity after today's shitshow. Luka was phenomenal today against Croatia. That's to be expected of course. But apparently, so was Dragic
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Rumored Mavericks free-agent target Goran Dragic starred in his return to action for Slovenia. The 36-year-old guard went off for 19 points, four rebounds, three assists, and one steal in 21.9 minutes of action. Dragic shot eight of 16 from the field, and he looked fantastic in the victory.
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Can we please get this guy signed already?
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07-01-2022, 07:30 AM
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Great article regarding Javale. He was beloved in PHX for good reason. I think he's a great pickup.
https://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2...doctor-ordered
Luka - Dragic? - Ntlikina
DFS - Dinwiddie - Pinson
Bull - THJ - Green - Hardy
Wood - Kleber - Bertans
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07-01-2022, 07:30 AM
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Javale is going to be worth the difference in cost vs Drummond, hands down. Drummond would be on skates on switches and he gets lost more than Brunson did on defense. Javale is more capable on switches because of his agility and athleticism. At 34/35 he can still move exceptionally well.
https://youtu.be/LPEKoXUBNVw
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07-01-2022, 07:34 AM
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I'm all for Dragic in this situation. I wasn't dying for him last season when the rumors of him being release started but now we really could use him for all the reasons folks have mentioned before.
If Hardy is going to be playing, Dragic and Luka are really good to watch uo close and soak up all the reads.
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07-01-2022, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest
Yeah I can get behind him being a better fit but 14 million better? Hell no. Hell I think Drummond is a better player but McGee is a better fit.
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This is pretty much exactly how I feel. McGee did get a 3 year deal vs 2 for Drummond. Javele fits out needs more than Drummond does.
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07-01-2022, 07:41 AM
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Shams Charania: Free agent Gary Payton II is finalizing a three-year, $28 million deal with the Portland Trail Blazers, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. ? via Twitter ShamsCharania
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07-01-2022, 08:03 AM
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Shams Charania: New Orleans Pelicans star Zion Williamson is nearing a five-year rookie max contract extension worth up to $231 million, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. The commitment will take Williamson?s new deal through the 2027-28 season. ? via Twitter ShamsCharania
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07-01-2022, 09:16 AM
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Ayo are y'all really thinking Drummond is the better player?!
Have you watched him at all in recent years? The guy is a fantastic rebounder and that's about it. He gets most of his point production from put backs and chippy shots after rebounds. Guy is absolutely terrible at defense and has stone hands.
McGee provides everything he does, but adds switchable defense, shot blocking, and excellent PNR skills. Keep Drummond far from this team and how the Mavs play lol
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07-01-2022, 09:18 AM
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Also, fucking LOL at the contracts handed out to KAT and Zion. The latter hasn't even earned it and their banking on his fat ass staying healthy and in the gym. Both are dwarfing what Luka will be making and I'd be sick to my stomach if the tables were turned.
$56MM a year for KAT!!!! HAHAHAHAHAH
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07-01-2022, 09:26 AM
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Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent guard Ricky Rubio is nearing a deal on a return to the Cleveland Cavaliers, sources tell ESPN. ? via Twitter wojespn
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07-01-2022, 09:31 AM
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I know it?s been rumored the Nets don?t want Ayton, but I hope he signs a contract with someone else just so PHX can?t potentially include him in a deal for Durant.
I also don?t understand rumors that KD and Kyrie still want to play together? Why are they both wanting to leave then? I kinda wish Brooklyn would just say tough shit if you want to be traded to KD. You signed a 4 year contract.
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07-01-2022, 10:10 AM
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Bruce Brown to Denver on a VERY friendly deal. Would have preferred him to Javale honestly, but you can?t teach size.
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07-01-2022, 10:33 AM
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John Hollinger reporting Mavs are likely to S&T JB to NYK in a three way deal including Burks and Noel to the Pistons to create a $12.5m trade exception.
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07-01-2022, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
John Hollinger reporting Mavs are likely to S&T JB to NYK in a three way deal including Burks and Noel to the Pistons to create a $12.5m trade exception.
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And we'll totally use it just like the Richardson one.
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07-01-2022, 10:44 AM
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Theo Pinson returning to Dallas.
Toronto, Otto Porter Jr. agree on a 2 year deal, 2nd year is a player option
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07-01-2022, 10:47 AM
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Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent G Theo Pinson is returning to the Dallas Mavericks on a one-year deal, sources tell ESPN. ? via Twitter wojespn
Khobi Price: The Orlando Magic have agreed to terms on a 2-year deal with Bol Bol, a league source told the @orlandosports. ? via Twitter khobi_price
Shams Charania: Free agent Aaron Holiday has agreed to a one-year deal with the Atlanta Hawks, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. ? via Twitter ShamsCharania
Doug Smith: Raptors make the Thad Young signing official ??He is a smart and versatile player who will continue to provide valuable leadership to our younger players on the court and in the locker room.? ? Bobby Webster in statement ? via Twitter SmithRaps
Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent center Mitchell Robinson has agreed on a new four-year, $60 million contract to stay with the New York Knicks, his agents Thad Foucher and Joe Smith of @Wassbasketball tell ESPN. pic.twitter.com/dnKtVQmln9 ? via Twitter wojespn
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07-01-2022, 10:48 AM
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And for anyone wondering about the power of Rick Brunson over Jalen...
https://twitter.com/townbrad/status/1542882235669532672
The fault is letting daddy manage you like that. Proposing a deal that wasn't even allowed in the CBA certain adds a layer to this mess.
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07-01-2022, 10:53 AM
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Brunson was tired of Luka being his daddy
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07-01-2022, 10:53 AM
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Brunson was tired of Luka being his daddy
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Rep.
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07-01-2022, 10:54 AM
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Just waiting for the tampering case to be opened. Someone mentioned it earlier, but if NYK traded their 2nd rnd picks to Detroit what is the possible penalty? Fining teams certainly isn?t going to stop anything because it?s pocket change when compared to player salaries.
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07-01-2022, 10:56 AM
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Stole this off your link
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07-01-2022, 10:56 AM
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And we'll totally use it just like the Richardson one.
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I know Nico was part of the FO when that expired, but hopefully he can utilize this one. Hate seeing those assets just go to waste. Certainly someone will become available that can make us better, or at least get a pick for a salary dump.
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07-01-2022, 11:00 AM
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Appearing this morning on ESPN?s ?KJM,? Brian Windhorst cited a ?high-90% chance? that the Nets will honor Durant?s trade request and said any deal involving Kyrie Irving will have to wait until Durant is moved. Irving only wants to go to the Lakers, but that means the Nets would have to take Russell Westbrook, who makes about $11MM more than Irving, and working out other compensation for Brooklyn won?t be easy. ? via Hoops Rumors
I get players should get to choose where they want to play, but in this case Kyrie shouldn?t have opted in if that?s the case. I know the huge money difference, but if he opted in he shouldn?t have a say in where he goes. Unfortunately it appears the Lakers are the only team that wants him.
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07-01-2022, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by BPo001
Just waiting for the tampering case to be opened. Someone mentioned it earlier, but if NYK traded their 2nd rnd picks to Detroit what is the possible penalty? Fining teams certainly isn?t going to stop anything because it?s pocket change when compared to player salaries.
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Reject the signing. Strip the 1st rounder from the Knicks. Give us a 1st rounder after the lottery. There are things the NBA can do to remedy things.
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07-01-2022, 11:05 AM
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Adrian Wojnarowski: Once the San Antonio Spurs finalize the expected release on forward Danilo Gallinari, his preference is to join the Boston Celtics upon clearing waivers, sources tell ESPN. ? via Twitter wojespn
Shams Charania
NBA All-Star Zach LaVine has agreed to a five-year, $215.2 million maximum contract to return to the Chicago Bulls, with a player option in Year 5, Klutch Sports CEO Rich Paul told
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John Wall officially agrees with the Clippers on a two-year deal for the taxpayer midlevel.
Adrian Wojnarowski
Free agent C Jusuf Nurkic has agreed on a new four-year, $70 million deal to stay with the Portland Trail Blazers,
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07-01-2022, 11:34 AM
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Bargain for Nurkic as long as he stays healthy.
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07-01-2022, 12:37 PM
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1) Luka
2) Spence
3) THJ
4) Bertans
5) Wood
6) DFS
7) Powell
8) Bullock
9) Kleber
10) McGee
11) Green
12) Frank
13) Hardy
14) Dragic
15) Pinson
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16*) Wright
17*) Bingham
Assuming we get Dragic, that's it, right? I guess we could have Hardy in the G-league and have one more roster spot.
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07-01-2022, 12:41 PM
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Malcolm Brogdon?.given away for free. Damn good deal for the Celtics?.
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07-01-2022, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by saclare
Ayo are y'all really thinking Drummond is the better player?!
Have you watched him at all in recent years? The guy is a fantastic rebounder and that's about it. He gets most of his point production from put backs and chippy shots after rebounds. Guy is absolutely terrible at defense and has stone hands.
McGee provides everything he does, but adds switchable defense, shot blocking, and excellent PNR skills. Keep Drummond far from this team and how the Mavs play lol
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I think Drummond is better. They do different things. I think what this team needs McGee is a better fit. Skill wise I think Drummond offers more. He?s certainly not 14 million better than him.
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Originally Posted by BPo001
This is pretty much exactly how I feel. McGee did get a 3 year deal vs 2 for Drummond. Javele fits out needs more than Drummond does.
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Agreed. I like what Javale offered last year. I think they are making a mistake starting him however. He had a better 48 minute production coming off the bench than starting.
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07-01-2022, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest
Malcolm Brogdon?.given away for free. Damn good deal for the Celtics?.
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Yup. One of the players going to the Pacers is Daniel Theis. Mavs should attempt to get in on the action and trade Powell for Theis. RC would love it, Theis is German, and I hear that he loves to watch movies. So, Cuban would still have a bud.
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07-01-2022, 12:50 PM
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Adrian Wojnarowski: Atlanta is trading Kevin Huerter to Sacramento for Justin Holiday, Mo Harkless and a future first round pick, sources tell EPSN. ? via Twitter wojespn
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