Trade deadline

[DevinHarriswillstart]

If you can't move Wood on a reasonable extension, then you have no business running an NBA team.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

If you can't move Wood on a reasonable extension, then you have no business running an NBA team.

I mean he had no value when shopped and he's 14mill expiring which should give him at least some. He's in a similar boat as Rui Hachimura with a reasonable deal and yet no one in the league wanted him.

If you sign him for a huge deal and no one wants him, then he becomes another THJ/Bertans.

You can't have a guy taking 1/3 of your cap for years who just continues to play lackluster defense and careless, low-BBIQ ball that you are stuck with for 4-5 years.

[BPo001]

Callie Caplan: GM Nico Harrison on Mavs? buyout market interest to fill 15th roster spot: ?We?re going to look at it closely. If there?s something we think can help strengthen our bench, then we?ll definitely do it, for sure.? Wing depth, defense are priorities. ? via Twitter CallieCaplan

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

You can't have a guy taking 1/3 of your cap for years who just continues to play lackluster defense and careless, low-BBIQ ball that you are stuck with for 4-5 years.

Still no proof of lackluster d or careless low-BBIQ ball, but go on...

Wood's numbers in January before getting injured...21 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 2.5 apg, 2.3 bpg, 51% from the field and 33% from three. So the three ball fell off a bit, but everything else is as good as you can expect.

[BPo001]

Marc Stein: The Mavericks say they have signed Chris Silva to a second 10-day contract. More NBA from me: marcstein.Substack.com ? via Twitter TheSteinLine

[BPo001]

Erik Slater: The Nets were offered four first-round picks for Mikal Bridges by an unnamed team per @Zach Lowe. ?I?ve confirmed this? I know of at least three first-round picks. I think the fourth one may have had some protections or something, but I?m pretty sure that was a thing.? ? via Twitter erikslater_

I like Bridges as a player, but I don?t know how you don?t accept that deal.

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I mean he had no value when shopped and he's 14mill expiring which should give him at least some. He's in a similar boat as Rui Hachimura with a reasonable deal and yet no one in the league wanted him.

If you sign him for a huge deal and no one wants him, then he becomes another THJ/Bertans.

You can't have a guy taking 1/3 of your cap for years who just continues to play lackluster defense and careless, low-BBIQ ball that you are stuck with for 4-5 years.

1/3 of the cap?

15-16m is not a huge deal, and appropriate for his skills. Even then, he's now an asset you can offload in the offseason. Trade deadline vs offseason is a different scenario.

Cuban offered nothing. Even a 2 year deal he probably takes. Now we've wasted a FRP.

side note im getting ptsd from the giannis trade down to save 250k for the possibility to sign dwight howard. feels like we're repeating the same thing but with kyrie. plan powder 2023 in motion

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Still no proof of lackluster d or careless low-BBIQ ball, but go on...

Wood's numbers in January before getting injured...21 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 2.5 apg, 2.3 bpg, 51% from the field and 33% from three. So the three ball fell off a bit, but everything else is as good as you can expect.

If he's as good as you say, then why did no one want him? The only rumor was Reggie Jackson-- a player who will be waived. Mavs wanted to trade him, but no one wanted him.

Looks like he's asking 20-30mill. Why should we give him that?

If no one really wants him which the TDL shows us, then let him elicit offers. If no one gives him even 10/year, then we sign him for 10/year or we sign and trade him.

[Melonhead]

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[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Looks like he's asking 20-30mill.

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why are you making shit up

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

why are you making shit up

I mean be a dick if you want, but every rumor was 2/40

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I mean be a dick if you want, but every rumor was 2/40

I dont believe that was ever reported by reputable mavs sources. if mavs really wanted him (at their price, whatever it was), they wouldve at least made an offer.

[EricaLubarsky]

https://www.dmagazine.com/sports/202...hristian-wood/

Good source from one of the best Mavs analysts (Iztok Franko)

Summary:

1) Wood doesn't help the offense that much if at all. With only him and no Doncic, they rank in the bottom five of offenses.

2) Wood has more defensive lapses than defensive impact because of his slow lateral movement

3) The only lineup that Wood worked in was at PF with Kleber playing center to cover up for Wood's defensive issues. With Kleber down, we have no other defensive centers that can cover up his glaring holes.

4) He wants and can get 19mill now or 20+ mill this summer.

5) Historically, paying a big big money is a mistake (KP, Collins, etc.)

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

https://www.dmagazine.com/sports/202...hristian-wood/

Good source from one of the best Mavs analysts (Iztok Franko)

Summary:

1) Wood doesn't help the offense that much if at all. With only him and no Doncic, they rank in the bottom five of offenses.

2) Wood has more defensive lapses than defensive impact because of his slow lateral movement

3) The only lineup that Wood worked in was at PF with Kleber playing center to cover up for Wood's defensive issues. With Kleber down, we have no other defensive centers that can cover up his glaring holes.

4) He wants and can get 19mill now or 20+ mill this summer.

5) Historically, paying a big big money is a mistake (KP, Collins, etc.)

That?s not too surprising, as guards and wing players dominate the current NBA landscape. On the chart above, you see names like Clint Capela, Aaron Gordon, and Domantas Sabonis in that $18 to $19 million salary range. All are more well-rounded players than Wood is.

If Dallas doesn?t offer the extension to Wood, they still would retain his Bird Rights going into free agency. But retaining him then could cost upward of $20 million annually, and that?s when things might get problematic.





Keep twisting things to try and say he is seeking 2/40. Because none of this says Wood is seeking 20 million.

Mavs offered nothing, and he wanted an extension and didnt want to be traded. There is literally no way to spin this. There was no rumor he was seeking 20 million. And even if there was, mavs did not offer a contract of what they thought he was worth.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

That?s not too surprising, as guards and wing players dominate the current NBA landscape. On the chart above, you see names like Clint Capela, Aaron Gordon, and Domantas Sabonis in that $18 to $19 million salary range. All are more well-rounded players than Wood is.

If Dallas doesn?t offer the extension to Wood, they still would retain his Bird Rights going into free agency. But retaining him then could cost upward of $20 million annually, and that?s when things might get problematic.





Keep twisting things to try and say he is seeking 2/40. Because none of this says Wood is seeking 20 million.

Mavs offered nothing, and he wanted an extension and didnt want to be traded. There is literally no way to spin this. There was no rumor he was seeking 20 million. And even if there was, mavs did not offer a contract of what they thought he was worth.

Please be more of a dick and more vain

That was not to you. It?s also not my evidence because I owe you nothing. Why would I waste my time dredging up reports that he wanted the max when you?ll just be a condescending dick anyway?

I posted for decent posters that want a take from a quality source. Itzok is one of the best in the entire NBA.

[purplefrog]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

https://www.dmagazine.com/sports/202...hristian-wood/

Good source from one of the best Mavs analysts (Iztok Franko)

Summary:

1) Wood doesn't help the offense that much if at all. With only him and no Doncic, they rank in the bottom five of offenses.

2) Wood has more defensive lapses than defensive impact because of his slow lateral movement

3) The only lineup that Wood worked in was at PF with Kleber playing center to cover up for Wood's defensive issues. With Kleber down, we have no other defensive centers that can cover up his glaring holes.

4) He wants and can get 19mill now or 20+ mill this summer.

5) Historically, paying a big big money is a mistake (KP, Collins, etc.)

If you also figure in the following salary totals for next year:

Luka - $40M
THJ - $18M
Bertans - $17M
Maxi - $11M
Kyrie - $50M (projected)

You can see the conundrum the MBT is facing. Can you really pay Wook $15-$20M?

The Mavs inability to trade away THJ or Bertans makes the salary situation challenging if you are committed to re-signing Kyrie (and all of this does not even take into consideration that Powell is expiring and will likely be re-signed for $15-20M/yr - just kidding... sort of).

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by purplefrog

If you also figure in the following salary totals for next year:

Luka - $40M
THJ - $18M
Bertans - $17M
Maxi - $11M
Kyrie - $50M (projected)

You can see the conundrum the MBT is facing. Can you really pay Wook $15-$20M?

The Mavs inability to trade away THJ or Bertans makes the salary situation challenging if you are committed to re-signing Kyrie (and all of this does not even take into consideration that Powell is expiring and will likely be re-signed for $15-20M/yr - just kidding... sort of).

This. And there are two options and you only went over one.

A) we keep Kyrie and can?t affording Wood will be tough. Is he worth it? The only way to tell is to see this team healthy and in the playoffs. By that time it?ll basically be the off-season.

B) Kyrie leaves and we?re stuck with the early season roster: THJ, Bertans, and Wood are overpaid. Mavs are m?diocre and Luka is probably wanting out. In that scenario you don?t want one more terrible contract humming up the system. THJ and Bertans are bad enough. If we can?t trade Wood at 12m expiring, can we trade him at 4/77?

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Please be more of a dick and more vain

That was not to you. It?s also not my evidence because I owe you nothing. Why would I waste my time dredging up reports that he wanted the max when you?ll just be a condescending dick anyway?

I posted for decent posters that want a take from a quality source. Itzok is one of the best in the entire NBA.

So you get called out for making up a rumor and get defensive and call me names.. You?re right you don?t me anything. But you keep changing the narrative. Of course a player wants a max extension. That?s not 20-30 million nor is it 1/3 of the cap.

I haven?t resorted to calling you names, that?s you. I?m setting the record straight of why he doesn?t have an extension. Cuban.

[Dallas41]

I personally don't want the mavs making the same mistake with Wood that they made with THJ

I think he's a solid player when he's making shots but at times I question his shot selection because he can sort of go into that hero ball mode. He settles way too much on 3's as well. I'd like to see him put more effort or focus into getting more buckets inside.

Defensively there's no question he tends to zone out often.

But if you surround him with better defensive players you can get by

I think in the playoffs he's best served to be utilized in a manner like how the Clippers used Montrez Harrell

Offensive spark early in games but Don't play him down the stretch when you need stops

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

If he's as good as you say, then why did no one want him? The only rumor was Reggie Jackson-- a player who will be waived. Mavs wanted to trade him, but no one wanted him.

Looks like he's asking 20-30mill. Why should we give him that?

If no one really wants him which the TDL shows us, then let him elicit offers. If no one gives him even 10/year, then we sign him for 10/year or we sign and trade him.

That's a lot of bro science behind the idea that Wood still being here means he was shopped hard and no one wanted him.

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by Dallas41

I personally don't want the mavs making the same mistake with Wood that they made with THJ

I think he's a solid player when he's making shots but at times I question his shot selection because he can sort of go into that hero ball mode. He settles way too much on 3's as well. I'd like to see him put more effort or focus into getting more buckets inside.

Defensively there's no question he tends to zone out often.

But if you surround him with better defensive players you can get by

I think in the playoffs he's best served to be utilized in a manner like how the Clippers used Montrez Harrell

Offensive spark early in games but Don't play him down the stretch when you need stops

His shot selection would be my only gripe. Defensively he does struggle on pnr but in the paint he?s solid, and grabs the board. But to me that?s why he?s a 15m a year guy. If he was a monster on D, he probably wouldn?t be here on an expiring.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Fans shield themselves from the reality of possibly losing Wood this summer. But that frustration should be taken out on the FO, not Wood. They created the mess. He has done way better than I thought he would.

Sure, shot selection and not always super motivated on D are fair, but that's not what is going on with a lot of fans right now. Some twilight zone stuff where people say Powell is more valuable because he sets better picks. Now where did I hear that kinda stuff before? *cough* Dampier *cough*

[Bryan_Wilson]

I'm confused... just because we haven't offered an official contract doesn't rly mean anything. Tmac had said "the mavs are interested in offering a 2yr extension of 36m. If the two sides are far enough apart then an offer is meaningless- aka his agent conveying to the FO they want 4yr 80m.

Another thing to consider- extending Wood makes him trade ineligible. So now that the TDL has passed and we are already evaluating Kyrie may as well evaluate how wood does with this core as well. Why give him 4/80 if he is for some reason a horrible fit and we are stuck on that contract and can't move him just like THJ.

[rimrocker]

I'm wondering how hard the Mavs went after a decent center to play next to Wood or replace him.
Seems they could have vastly improved the situation by bringing in the right center to complement Wood and the team as a whole.

Maybe they feel they can pick up someone that gets bought out to fill that role and maybe they feel Maxi will be 100% by the POs.

I kind of get why they'd be hesitant to sign Wood if the asking price is steep, to wait and see how this chemistry will come together.

I think we are fine.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

I thought Javale played decently well the last couple games. Hopefully he can provide us SOMETHING.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I thought Javale played decently well the last couple games. Hopefully he can provide us SOMETHING.

Yep, and if Maxi comes back to full strength I think we will be fine.
I'd still like to see us add some insurance at center in case McGee reverts back to being unplayable, or if any of our bigs get injured.

A healthy Maxi would solve a lot of our problems right now considering he can guard bigs and wings imo.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Stein:

The Mavericks are among the teams expressing interest in Terrence Ross should the Orlando swingman secure a buyout from the Magic, league sources say.

Much more on the buyout market and trade deadline fallout on our latest pod with @ChrisBHaynes.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Stein:

The Mavericks are among the teams expressing interest in Terrence Ross should the Orlando swingman secure a buyout from the Magic, league sources say.

Much more on the buyout market and trade deadline fallout on our latest pod with @ChrisBHaynes.

No man. Don't tamper with these kids minutes. You want to add someone, add a big.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

No man. Don't tamper with these kids minutes. You want to add someone, add a big.

About to burst your bubble.

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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The Dallas Mavericks have emerged as the frontrunner to sign Terrence Ross once his buyout is complete, sources tell ESPN.

[Bryan_Wilson]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

About to burst your bubble.

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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10m
The Dallas Mavericks have emerged as the frontrunner to sign Terrence Ross once his buyout is complete, sources tell ESPN.

20mins a game in orlando and shooting 38% on 3's? He may not be the volume scorer he used to be but if it means having someone else to play over THJ so I no longer have to see 5/16 in the box score game after game count me in.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

People say he is good a t D?

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

People say he is good a t D?

similar defensive win share to DFS. Same height. More length.

But also way smaller so his ability to "body up" bigger forwards is limited.

[EricaLubarsky]

Real talk: tons of nice players have been waived. Who would you get and who would you drop?

1) Luka
2) Kyrie
3) Wood
4) Green
5) Bullock
6) Powell
7) Kleber
8) Morris
9) Hardy
10) Frank
11) Bertans
12) THJ
13) McGee
14) Pinson
15) Silva
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16) Wright IV
17) Lawson

My vote is Ross for Frank
Ibaka/Bitadze/Noel for Silva

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Yeah, definitely Frank. Shown no improvement and is always hurt.

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

No man. Don't tamper with these kids minutes. You want to add someone, add a big.

Ross is a solid 3 point shooter and unlike THJ he does his stuff within the flow of the offense and doesn't force up shots

I actually was hoping the Mavs to get him in package deal with Mo Bamba

Their bench should have several guys who can space the floor now in Ross, Wood, Bertans THJ and Kleber giving Kidd different options in the playoffs to use based on who's playing well.

McGee looks like the rim protector that 2nd unit will need with them

[tap2390]

Like the Ross pickup. We needed another wing to throw in the mix. He?s going to be good for some solid wing defense, solid shooting, and the occasional highlight dunk.

[rimrocker]

Perfectly happy with Ross.
Wouldn't mind Barton either if he becomes available.

[Melonhead]

Regarding the trade, when do we see Morris?

Feel like he?d be beneficial on some level regarding defense, working for boards

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by Dallas41

Ross is a solid 3 point shooter and unlike THJ he does his stuff within the flow of the offense and doesn't force up shots

I actually was hoping the Mavs to get him in package deal with Mo Bamba

Their bench should have several guys who can space the floor now in Ross, Wood, Bertans THJ and Kleber giving Kidd different options in the playoffs to use based on who's playing well.

McGee looks like the rim protector that 2nd unit will need with them

Meh. Im familiar with his game. I'm sure he's a swell guy but I Just don't want anyone taking any mins from Hardy or Green. They're both better already and need every minute possible to continue to grow.

I'm sure they're ecstatic to add an average dude who will potentially cut into their playing time.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

Meh. Im familiar with his game. I'm sure he's a swell guy but I Just don't want anyone taking any mins from Hardy or Green. They're both better already and need every minute possible to continue to grow.

I'm sure they're ecstatic to add an average dude who will potentially cut into their playing time.

I think we need some insurance on the wings though. Right now we are looking at Pinson or Frank as 3rd option 3D guys.
That's a little scary going into the POs.

I don't think Ross would take that many minutes from Hardy and definitely not Green. Green has become the next DFS and I doubt he'll ever see less than 30 minutes from here on out barring an injury or foul trouble.
I think he'd cut into (or should cut into) THJ's minutes.