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jthig32 · 12-08-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Popeye

I don't think they'd take on both Billups and Turiaf, but I'd be thrilled with just Billups. That would be a huge upgrade over JJB and allow Kidd to play about 20mpg. I'm sure the Knicks could throw in $3mm cash to sweeten the deal and maybe a draft pick.

They don't have any picks to trade.

G-Man · 12-08-2011, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

The odds of keeping the exact same team together and getting the same quality of play for a whole postseason are nearly as tiny.

I think JJB and DeShawn are replaceable parts. I see Chandler or an equivalent center as essential. Haywood is not quick enough , and will be a hack a Shaq liability at the end of games.

rabbitproof · 12-08-2011, 03:19 PM

I'd want Turiaf in the deal. Mavs can afford to be more aggressive since trading Billups and amnestying make a big difference in how the Knicks will upgrade the rest of their roster.

Rick41 · 12-08-2011, 03:21 PM

After reading Adrian W's tweets, Chauncey is taking these rumors like a bitch.

dalger · 12-08-2011, 03:22 PM

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WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Just spoke to Andy Miller, agent for Chauncey Billups, who describes his client as "irate" over possibility of Knicks using amnesty on him.
vor 6 Minuten

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Agent Miller on Billups: "He has no intention of being open-minded about any possible situation where a team would claim him off waivers.."
vor 5 Minuten

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
More agent Andy Miller on Knicks exposing Billups to amnesty waiver wire: "....unless it's a team he chooses himself. Buyer beware."
vor 3 Minuten

Well, we should make sure Chauncey's in the right mood for a change of scenery...

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-08-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dalger

Well, we should make sure Chauncey's in the right mood for a change of scenery...

I'd be shocked if he hated a trade to the world champs.

rabbitproof · 12-08-2011, 03:29 PM

His beef might be with not starting. Could get a little hairy.

OSUmavsfan · 12-08-2011, 03:34 PM

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daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Source: Caron Butler agrees to terms with Clippers. Three years, 24M.

Wow that's a lot. I'm glad the Spurs are whiffing on all the small forwards though.

b_o_r · 12-08-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick41

After reading Adrian W's tweets, Chauncey is taking these rumors like a bitch.

He has every right to be. He wanted to stay in Denver. They got rid of him because NY wanted him along with Melo. If he gets the clause used on him, the teams with the poorest record get the first crack at signing him. At his age, he wants to play for a contender or his hometown (Denver).

b_o_r · 12-08-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OSUmavsfan

Wow that's a lot. I'm glad the Spurs are whiffing on all the small forwards though.

Wow. A 31yr old coming off a torn patella tendon gets 7M a year

twistaeffect2004 · 12-08-2011, 03:38 PM

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
One source w/knowledge of Mavs' thinking adamant Dallas does not want to take back Billups' expiring deal in Tyson Chandler sign-and-trade

mavs777 · 12-08-2011, 03:38 PM

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
One source w/knowledge of Mavs' thinking adamant Dallas does not want to take back Billups' expiring deal in Tyson Chandler sign-and-trade

and butler to LAC

dalger · 12-08-2011, 03:38 PM

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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 3 Min
One source w/knowledge of Mavs' thinking adamant Dallas does not want to take back Billups' expiring deal in Tyson Chandler sign-and-trade

Hmm...

Budapest Maverick · 12-08-2011, 03:38 PM

Those tweets are about the possibility of the Knicks amnestying (that's probably not a word) him. We can't pick up Billups if they amnesty him, because then it's basically become an auction amongst non tax payer teams. But why would they amnesty him? I don't get it. I just read this.

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John Hollinger: As one of my readers just pointed out, S&T for Billups (rather than amnesty) also gives Knicks full MLE and biannual exceptions.

So why would they amnesty him? I would hate this, i got really pumped up by the idea of bringing Chauncey in, it would be a really nice early Christmas present, especially because i forget we could actually trade Tyson for some good value knowing he won't sign a 1 year deal. I thought he will just bolt, now we have a chance to actually get something for a player we know won't accept Cubes offer. Would be great. Get it done please.

joemoeschmoe · 12-08-2011, 03:40 PM

Imagine how Amare feels being traded to NO. I'd be just as pissed if I were him.

Hard to blame NY though. CP, Melo, Chandler...that is a real backbone to championships -- almost no weaknesses.

joemoeschmoe · 12-08-2011, 03:40 PM

Imagine how Amare feels being traded to NO. I'd be just as pissed if I were him.

Hard to blame NY though. CP, Melo, Chandler...that is a real backbone to championships -- almost no weaknesses.

Popeye · 12-08-2011, 03:40 PM

I think this rotation could compete for another title:
PG: Kidd 24 / Chauncey 24
SG: Jet 25 / Rudy 13 / Roddy 10
SF: Marion 30 / Brewer 18
PF: Dirk 35 / Turiaf 13
C: Haywood 30 / Mahinmi 18

j0Shi · 12-08-2011, 03:41 PM

http://twitter.com/#!/daldridgetnt/s...77077961773056

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Source: Caron Butler agrees to terms with Clippers. Three years, 24M.

Butler gets 8M anually

Welcome to the Pre-Lockout NBA

Budapest Maverick · 12-08-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dalger

Hmm...

But... why? Are they thinking there is a better one year possibility out there? No real impact player (Afflalo, Crawford, etc, etc) will sign a one year deal. They have to know this. With Billups we keep our flexibility for next summer, and we get a great player, though may not the best fit, but a great talent anyway. I don't get it why we wouldn't want that contract back. Well, other than paying it.

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-08-2011, 03:48 PM

Whhhhhhyyyyyy wouldn't they want Billups?!!! He's a fricken' expiring at worst! Is he still injured or something?

Ok well Roddy Beaubois is your pg then or some not that great one year add on.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 12-08-2011, 03:53 PM

nm

DevinHarriswillstart · 12-08-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

http://twitter.com/#!/daldridgetnt/s...77077961773056

Butler gets 8M anually

Welcome to the Pre-Lockout NBA

That's unbelievable. The Clippers of all teams... It's cuckoo in the coco puffs.

Agent of the year ladies and gentlemen!

CATCH-17 · 12-08-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by b_o_r

Wow. A 31yr old coming off a torn patella tendon gets 7M a year

I thought the big deal about the new CBA was to bail teams out for making dumb deals in the past.

Popeye · 12-08-2011, 03:57 PM

Hmmm... maybe Mavs will S&T Tyson to Knicks and just take back Turiaf, then go after Billups in FA if he clears waivers. Or maybe they have no interest.

Kidd Karma · 12-08-2011, 03:58 PM

I think we might be jumping ship early. We have to wait on Tyson and see what his plans are, these are just media types jumping on rumors, hearing plans, going direct to the players. I think Billups would be happy here, would hate to sit and miss a week of TC then find out where he's going. The guy can play both guard spots, alongside Kidd and either can defend the big guard. He has a nice shot from the stripe, another leader. He's a great glue guy to get us to summer 2012. Show the league we're versatile enough to win back to back with different role players. I think it's a good move to snag billups.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 12-08-2011, 04:01 PM

Billups is said to be LIVID about the possibility of being amnestied.

dalger · 12-08-2011, 04:02 PM

How ironic that the very owner who has a reputation of being one of the cheapest guys in the NBA finds the money to pay 31-year-old Caron Butler $8 million per year, although said player hasn't been on the court an entire year due to a serious knee injury. And they've been saying for years that Cuban's the owner most likely to overpay players...

xrobx · 12-08-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Popeye

I think this rotation could compete for another title:
PG: Kidd 24 / Chauncey 24
SG: Jet 25 / Rudy 13 / Roddy 10
SF: Marion 30 / Brewer 18
PF: Dirk 35 / Turiaf 13
C: Haywood 30 / Mahinmi 18

No, it couldn't because Haywood is mediocre (at best) and Mahinmi sucks, and it would be just like all the Mavs teams like when we had to rely on guys like Shawn Bradley and Erick Dampier before the 2010-2011 team, great but no center and no championship. We lost one of the best centers in the NBA. If we don't end up getting Dwight or at least another pretty good center at some point between this season and next I'm really not even going to humor myself with thoughts of another championship.

SMC0007 · 12-08-2011, 04:09 PM

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...ks-sources-say

..."Another telling sign that Chandler's time in Dallas has come to an end emerged Thursday, when sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that the Mavericks offered Chandler to the Orlando Magic as part of a proposed sign-and-trade deal for All-Star center Dwight Howard."

?

j0Shi · 12-08-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

That's unbelievable. The Clippers of all teams... It's cuckoo in the coco puffs.

Agent of the year ladies and gentlemen!

Amazing that Caron has Championship leverage w/o playing at all

xrobx · 12-08-2011, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/stor...ks-sources-say

..."Another telling sign that Chandler's time in Dallas has come to an end emerged Thursday, when sources close to the situation told ESPN.com that the Mavericks offered Chandler to the Orlando Magic as part of a proposed sign-and-trade deal for All-Star center Dwight Howard."

?

please god... if you're really up there....

SMC0007 · 12-08-2011, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by xrobx

please god... if you're really up there....

We just won a championship..he's up there. But it seems like there should be other teams in front of us in the miracle line at this point.

xrobx · 12-08-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

We just won a championship..he's up there. But it seems like there should be other teams in front of us in the miracle line at this point.

point taken.

chumdawg · 12-08-2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

We just won a championship..he's up there.

Great line!

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 12-08-2011, 04:26 PM

Of course, Jesus is a Dirk fan.

Lebron belongs to the other guy. That took place when he went to the "Heat"

DirkFTW · 12-08-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

We just won a championship..he's up there.

Rep owed!

Kidd Karma · 12-08-2011, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

We just won a championship..he's up there. But it seems like there should be other teams in front of us in the miracle line at this point.

Nah, I'm greedy, give me Chauncey, Turiaf, Redd and Foster we'll do it again. F the Big 3's out there. Chauncey will have a chip.

Kante · 12-08-2011, 04:38 PM

I would take Billups, no problem with him and Turiaf would have been a good piuece too!

Butler worth 8 million, i wanted him back badly, but not for that money, have fun with playing 82 games a year!

sefant77 · 12-08-2011, 05:37 PM

Too bad the Nets backed out on Butler (or the Clippers bidding too much).

Would be good when the Nets blow such a huge amount of cap at Butler...

dude1394 · 12-08-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xrobx

No, it couldn't because Haywood is mediocre (at best) and Mahinmi sucks, and it would be just like all the Mavs teams like when we had to rely on guys like Shawn Bradley and Erick Dampier before the 2010-2011 team, great but no center and no championship. We lost one of the best centers in the NBA. If we don't end up getting Dwight or at least another pretty good center at some point between this season and next I'm really not even going to humor myself with thoughts of another championship.

+1