Lost

[XERXES]

wow- what a great episode. and wow- what great commentary on the episode! i wish there had been this much feedback on all the episodes...the pace of this one was even slower than usual (which is really saying something...) but I really loved it and was biting my nails the whole way through.

Some thoughts:

-The"others" were a rough looking lot. Except I think we will find out that the blonde chick is pretty hot. I see her and Sawyer hooking up in the not too distant future.

-Of course Charlie took the heroin. Another, subplot to add to the drama...

-I want to know what the monster is: An underground machine? If so, who built it? And why?

-WHy did the island demand a sacrifice in the form of Boone? The theistic nature of the island is a little odd.

-We still don't know where the polar bears came from...

-It makes sense that they wanted Walt. He is the "special" one out of the group. I wonder how they know this about him.

-If the others have gas and a good boat- why don't they leave island?

-Why don't those scruffy looking others try to hook up with the french chick? I know she is crazy (and proabbly real hairy)...but, dude, you're on a deserted island- lower your standards...you killed all of her friends- there is nothing standing in your way...

-Also, on a serious note...I used to live in Abilene...my friends and I were always bored -so we would go climb around these old missile silos. That is EXACTLY what that ladder down the hatch reminded me of. if you've ever seen an underground missile silo - you know exactly what I'm talking about.

Just some thoughts...

[XERXES]

missile silo

Being 18 and climbing around 10 stories underground in an abandoned missile silo...Whew- those were some good times.

[Big Boy Laroux]

yeah, i just think the writers want you to THINK he took the heroin, but it never shows it. it just shows the virgin mary statuette. perhaps he is just returning to religion?

and did the island demand a sacrifice, or is all that crap simply in locke's delusional mind?

forgot to mention it, but i LOVED the scene where locke talks about playing operation.

[XERXES]

That operation scene was pretty cool.

[sike]

"I always got stuck on the funny bone"....I agree, Classic.

[sike]

Originally posted by: XERXES
missile silo

Being 18 and climbing around 10 stories underground in an abandoned missile silo...Whew- those were some good times.

dang sexy, that one pic really does look like the hatch. Good call there. Though for I very seriously doubt that is what it will turn out to be....because missile silo means that people used to know about this island....and I get the feeling they have not.

[Big Boy Laroux]

thought this was neat:

[XERXES]

That's awesome...

[Ninkobei]

This just in: Hurley payed 16 hundred for his scooter from that old handi capped guy. I don't believe this is significant, but it's another one of his numbers.

[ocelot_ark]

23! All the other girls are facing away from us. Why is that? 23 seems to be significant in this scene. Also, when Hurley and Kate were talking the number 23 came to the forefront. I'm now convinced that 23 has some sort of significance aside from the huge number.

Michael Jordan will be the mastermind behind The Others. Bank it.

[XERXES]

Nice basketball tie-in...

[Big Boy Laroux]

i think this was posted before (didn't want to wade through page after page). I saw it some time ago, but it actually begins to make sense now, since we've seen a glimpse of the "monster"



the .gif file checks out, as one person pulled it right from his episodes he burned to dvd. now, he could be lying. who knows. they'll replay the pilot, and i'll be watching for it.

rumors on another board I post on is that of nanotechnology, like in crichton's book "Prey". clouds of very small machines, acting as one.

in that book, they even formed together to take on other forms, even human shape.

in interviews with Terry O'Quinn, he asked the directors what he is looking at (regarding the moster), in his first meeting way back when. They told him to imagine the "most beautiful thing you've ever seen". So if it is nanotechnology, we could assume that they formed the shape of something that locke considered beautiful. could that be how jack saw his dad as well?

[u2sarajevo]

I have the first episode on DVD... and it indeed has that sequence BBL. CGI mistake my behind. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

You said we "saw" the monster, but did we? I saw pictures on another site of the cloud of "smoke" when the dynamite was thrown down the hatch. In still photos you can see what looks like human faces in the clouds. I haven't paused it yet to see if that is true or not.

[u2sarajevo]

huh... the part where the group was walking back with the dynamite and you hear this clicking noise, jack and kate look in the direction of the noise and the camera cuts to a scene of the woods, and it appears that a puff of smoke flies by. Then jack looks at kate and she says "Yeah..... I saw it".

Huh. Is that the monster we saw that you are claiming BBL?

This is getting better by the minute. I can't wait until September.... this sucks.

[Big Boy Laroux]

i'm going to watch the finale again tonight. i swear there was a quick cut to a black cloud looking thing when locke was running away (before it grabbed him).

here's the smoke after the dynamite was thrown through the hole.

[Big Boy Laroux]

u2, that is exactly what i'm thinking of. that's when it happened.

can't find a screen cap online...

[Evilmav2]

Originally posted by: Big Boy Laroux
u2, that is exactly what i'm thinking of. that's when it happened.

can't find a screen cap online...

I need to download the final episode anyway, so I'll post a few screen caps of the mysterious smoke cloud once the thing is done a little later. I'll also go back to my copy of episode one, and see if I can find and screenshot that shadow that's flying over the exploding engine in the .gif you just posted (just to see if it's not BS)...

[Big Boy Laroux]

just watched this again on tivo. does it sound like the huge bird sqawks "Hurkey"?

anyway, saw the smoke cloud that Kate and Jack see.

Locke is being dragged by something black (the cloud again?). the smoke cloud that appears after the dynamite is thrown down the hole (as I posted above) is VERY weird. It is there for a second, then gathers, and flies off AWAY from the camera. I believe you are made to think it's just smoke from the dynamite, but it is in actuality the same cloud that is seen before.

[EricaLubarsky]

gotta say that smoke is beautiful

[Big Boy Laroux]

Here's the cloud reforming and flying away:

[sike]

me confused bout smoke...

I have no clue what the monster is...except that it can't be a biological animal...

[Ninkobei]

Hey in that book "prey," the nano-bots could influence the thoughts of a person. This could explain why the "other's" are doing what they are doing. The nano theory is the best theory to date. genius!

[u2sarajevo]

Go here and on the numbers below the seating chart click the numbers in order from lowest to highest.... 4 - 8- 15 - 16 - 23 - 42

You get a "preview" for next season. Then the page that comes up after the "preview" is pretty creepy.

edit: And check this out. Mapinguari?

[sike]

in reference to the "others"...did not someone point out earlier that Ethan Rom can spell "Other Man"?

[XERXES]

I think EL may have noted that

[Big Boy Laroux]

yeah, weird site, U2. if you click around on certain pages, you'll find hidden messages, ones that survivors wrote and put in the bottle.

For the seating chart, the passengers we know (Jake, Kate, etc.) have their seats light up. When you click on one, something will come up. like a map or picture or something like that.

[sike]

the site is interesting

[XERXES]

I went back and watched the season finale again last night. I wanted to pay specific attention to the monster and to the others. Let me go on record and tell you that the monster is (at least in one of its incarnations) this black ghost-like vapor. Jack and Kate don't see a bird rustle- that's the black vapor...when the dynamite goes off- that is NOT smoke- that is again the black vapor.

In regards to the others, i couldn't find out much more- other than the fact that their leader is one burley looking dude.

[u2sarajevo]

Originally posted by: XERXES
I went back and watched the season finale again last night. I wanted to pay specific attention to the monster and to the others. Let me go on record and tell you that the monster is (at least in one of its incarnations) this black ghost-like vapor. Jack and Kate don't see a bird rustle- that's the black vapor...when the dynamite goes off- that is NOT smoke- that is again the black vapor.

In regards to the others, i couldn't find out much more- other than the fact that their leader is one burley looking dude.

Welcome to the conversation we have been having for the past couple of days already. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

[sike]

I still don't like to think of those pirates as the "others"...they don't seem able of anything supernatural...and the "others" have always seemed to have knowledge and ability that could only be explained as supernatural.

[Big Boy Laroux]

if they're not the others, it's a huge coincidence that they wanted "the boy" just as danielle heard them whisper that they wanted "the boy".

if those people are not the others, then they are more than likely manipulated by the others.

[XERXES]

Originally posted by: u2sarajevo

Welcome to the conversation we have been having for the past couple of days already. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

I'm a little slow this week...sorry...

[sike]

if those people are not the others, then they are more than likely manipulated by the others.

I greatly prefer this idea.

[Evilmav2]

Originally posted by: Big Boy Laroux
i think this was posted before (didn't want to wade through page after page). I saw it some time ago, but it actually begins to make sense now, since we've seen a glimpse of the "monster"



the .gif file checks out, as one person pulled it right from his episodes he burned to dvd. now, he could be lying. who knows. they'll replay the pilot, and i'll be watching for it.

I went through that sequence frame-by-frame (I took the above screenshot from my copy of episode I, and not from the .gif BBL posted), and I found that the destructive smoke clowd definitely exists. That's a pretty sharp move by the Lost writers...

[EricaLubarsky]

the more I think about it, and the more I look at all the pics of the black smoke, the more Im convinced that the producers actually did a lot more than just open questions for next season. Between the guys on the boat and the security system, I think we now have a much better understanding of the island than we did before this last episode.

[XERXES]

I read an interview with Hurley in a magazine (on an airplane earlier this week) he said another castmember will die next season...do we want to start taking bets now?

[sike]

I bet we do want to take bets

[XERXES]

Print it up: I say JIN!

[sike]

sexy just wants Mike and Sun to "hook up" island style....you dirty old man!

[jthig32]

Well, after I had a friend demend that I watch the reruns of lost, my wife and I watched the first three episodes on tv, and I was completely hooked. I couldn't stand the waiting, so I downloaded the entire season and we just finished watchign it in about a week's time, stpping in between episodes to read your guys' comments on them.

All I can saw is wow, what a lot to take in!!

I don't really have a whole lot to add to what's been said right now. I think I'm going to go back and re-watch a lot of them. You see lots of things when you rewatch them.

I think next season will explain why someone replised back to Boone on the radio that "WE are the survivors of Flight 815" I think that's where the story is headed. They will discover other survivors in some way, probably including that ladies' husband.

Also, I don't think those guys were the "others" either. Perhaps human representations of them, or they just work for them, but they can't be the others. At least I don't think so.

Oh, and if Michael, Jin and Sawyer just miraculously wash ashore after being 15 miles out, I lose a lot of respect for the show. They better die, or they better have a better explanation for how they made it back.