2008 Cowboys Off-season Thread - Page 24 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

alexamenos · 08-05-2008, 05:05 PM

steve smith for crayton and spears?

i'd do that deal, and then i'd jump around the room laughing maniacally while having love with myself .... Then I'd shout "how 'bout them Cowboys!" just as I finish.

so yeah, i'd do that deal.

DirkFTW · 08-05-2008, 05:30 PM

^now i'm not so keen on the deal. :-p

MavsX · 08-05-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by alexamenos

steve smith for crayton and spears?

i'd do that deal, and then i'd jump around the room laughing maniacally while having love with myself .... Then I'd shout "how 'bout them Cowboys!" just as I finish.

so yeah, i'd do that deal.

dammit alex

FINtastic · 08-05-2008, 07:31 PM

I don't know, on hand Steve Smith for Crayton and Spears seems like an absolute no-brainer. On the other hand, you begin to wonder if you start to collect too many "problem" players whether the camel's back might just break. I was for the TO signing. I was for the Tank Johnson deal. Heck, I was even for bringing on Sir Adam Jones. But this one might be just a little too much.

FINtastic · 08-05-2008, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

The biggest worry for me would be breaking up the pecking order that TO presently seems very comfortable with.

I share this worry. TO is fine if things are set-up in a certain way, but if he has to play with another hothead receiver who wants the ball just as much, are tempers going to flare?

And what happens when Steve Smith gets mad at Adam Jones for blanketing him and takes a swing? Does Adam retaliate by blowing his head off? These things need to be considered.

But I do have to agree from a fantasy football perspective the thought of Romo choosing whether he wants to toss the ball to Steve Smith, Terrell Owens, or Jason Witten is absolutely delicious.

MavsX · 08-05-2008, 08:35 PM

i think maybe the desire to win a ring will keep all these personalities level headed. i mean jerry jones has been known to be able to "control" these types of people.

Dtownsfinest · 08-06-2008, 01:21 AM

I'm not sure if i'd be for a Spears and Crayton for Smith deal. You guys look at it as a #2 reciever and a defensive end for Steve Smith but I look at it as two starters for 1. I'd be more up to trading draft choices for Steve Smith. We don't need Steve Smith. He'd be great to have but there's only one football and frankly I like what I see in this current team and i'd like to see more of Miles Austin, Isiah Stanback and Sam Hurd.

MavsX · 08-06-2008, 06:33 AM

Miles Austin, Isiah Stanback and Sam Hurd?

your crazy

Ninkobei · 08-06-2008, 09:36 AM

Hurd has some great hands. I remember seeing him in pre-season a few years back...I think one game he caught about 10 balls in a half. it was pretty entertaining. And Austin is almost like steve smith..small and fast. though probably not as talented.

alby · 08-06-2008, 10:02 AM

Austin is going to end the season as our #2, he's that good.
Isaiah may end next year as our #2, he has top receiver talent.

Dtownsfinest · 08-06-2008, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsX

Miles Austin, Isiah Stanback and Sam Hurd?

your crazy

How am I crazy? Because they weren't 1st round picks? I don't know what they have but I do know this team just released Terry Glenn because they like what they see from their recieving core. I'd like to see more myself. Austin and Hurd made cameos last season. You can tell they suffered from inexperience but another year under their belt and they should be a lot better. Not sure how good but i'd like to find out.

MavsX · 08-06-2008, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

How am I crazy? Because they weren't 1st round picks? I don't know what they have but I do know this team just released Terry Glenn because they like what they see from their recieving core. I'd like to see more myself. Austin and Hurd made cameos last season. You can tell they suffered from inexperience but another year under their belt and they should be a lot better. Not sure how good but i'd like to find out.

yeah i don't know, i was just saying. I hope your right.

Underdog · 08-06-2008, 11:42 AM

Don't Count On 'Smith-To-Dallas'

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Don't get too excited about speculation that the Cowboys might be trying to acquire embattled Panthers wide receiver Steve Smith.

Team sources say a potential trade isn't feasible for two reasons: One, it's highly unlikely Carolina wants to move its best player despite a recent altercation with teammate Ken Lucas that got him suspended for two regular-season games. Two, Smith's reworked contract - he's signed through 2012 - makes him difficult to trade, and the Cowboys now have a tighter salary cap from re-signing so many of their own players.

alexamenos · 08-06-2008, 11:53 AM

do you mean to tell me that i soiled all over my life-sized poster of Crazy Ray for nothing?

DirkFTW · 08-06-2008, 12:01 PM

^You're welcome.

sike · 08-06-2008, 12:01 PM

sports pants are starting to lean a bit more towards football these days....

Underdog · 08-06-2008, 12:07 PM

Turning The Corner
Oglesby Making Strong Bid For Roster Spot

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OXNARD, Calif. - Former Cowboys great Deion Sanders said to watch out for him, and it looks like "Prime Time" may be on to something when he talks about Cowboys cornerback Evan Oglesby.

In what may be the deepest group of cornerbacks in franchise history, Oglesby has a tough road ahead of him if he wants to make the team, but the third-year veteran is doing everything he can in training camp here at the River Ridge Sports Complex to make a case for himself.

"Evan Oglesby continues to make plays," head coach Wade Phillips said. "He's had the most interceptions of any of our corners, any of our secondary people so far in practice."

In addition to Oglesby's six training camp interceptions, the cornerback has had several pass breakups and has shown good coverage ability. Though he did not see the field much, he did spend the entire season with the Cowboys last year, the team claiming him off waivers after the Baltimore Ravens released him at final cuts. But now, with an entire off-season with the club, Oglesby said he feels much more comfortable in the Cowboys system.

"I know the defense now. I've got a pretty good idea about the scheme," Oglesby said. "I feel comfortable with this defense, so I'm able to have my ability take effect."

That ability of which he speaks is not newfound. Sanders noticed it when the two were together in Baltimore at the end of the 2005 season, where he and Oglesby formed a strong bond, much like Sanders is forming with a certain other Cowboys cornerback.

"He took me in like one of his sons," Oglesby said. "He still today texts me everyday before the games, gives me inspirational speeches, texts me to work on this or that. He came to a couple of OTA practices and showed me how to work on a few things to better my game."

Secondary coach Dave Campo, who coached Sanders when he was with the Cowboys, can see some of Deion in Oglesby. That's not to say Oglesby's a unique talent like Sanders was, but Campo sees the same drive in both of them.

"He doesn't have that style to him, I guess is a way to put it," Campo said of the Sanders-Oglesby comparison. "But I love the fact that he competes, and that's a Deion Sanders trait."

Despite all the noise he's making in camp, Oglesby's spot on the final roster is far from secure. Five players are virtually safe - starters Terence Newman and Anthony Henry, partially reinstated Adam Jones, and draft picks Mike Jenkins and Orlando Scandrick. Head coach Wade Phillips has said he's never kept more than six corners, which would leave one spot open, seemingly up for grabs between Oglesby and last year's seventh round draft pick Alan Ball.

Ball was out for a few days with an ankle sprain, giving Oglesby more reps, but has since returned. The coaching staff has been high on the former Illinois corner's upside since they drafted him last year.

But Oglesby has no delusions about his situation.

"He knows the paper," Campo said. "He knows how many guys are going to be here, and he knows that we're not going to keep eight corners, so he's come out and he's competed."

The fast-approaching preseason opener in San Diego on Saturday will give Oglesby a chance to strut his stuff, but Ball will most likely receive similar playing time. In the end, that last spot will probably come down to who makes more plays in the exhibition games at corner and on special teams.

But Oglesby said he won't let the competition at his position get in the way of his friendships with his teammates.

"We're all playmakers, we're all good professionals at the same time," Oglesby said. "Although we're fighting for a job, we all have a friendship, too. If we can't make it here, we want to have the same advice and take it to another team."

Getting picked up by another team seems every bit as likely as making the squad for Oglesby. The team and Oglesby himself know he has the skill to play in the pros, but the Cowboys may not have the luxury of a roster spot.

"I think we have a lot of guys that can play in the NFL, and will play in the NFL," Phillips said. "Maybe more than we can keep."

Contact Drill?

The Cowboys haven't worn full pads here at practice since last week, but that doesn't mean there haven't been a few big hits.

Veteran linebacker Zach Thomas provided one here at the end of Tuesday's practice when he popped rookie running back Keon Lattimore during team drills. Lattimore, an undrafted player from Maryland, is the half-brother of Ravens All-Pro linebacker Ray Lewis.

And Thomas put on a lick similar to the ones for which Lewis is also famous, dropping Lattimore to the ground after he caught a short pass in the flat. "It was a little tap. I just threw a shoulder into him," Thomas said of Lattimore. "If it was Marion Barber, I would've 'olayed' it. He's a rookie, I threw a little shoulder into him. You don't want to do anything to lose a teammate, but popping someone always feels good. But they'll do the same to you. I've been on the other side. You can't really taunt or anything; it will come back to haunt you. In the game, that's when you make those hits, when you lead with the helmet and cause some damage. But this is just practice."

While there are some question marks surrounding Thomas, who missed 11 games last year because of a concussion, Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips said it doesn't appear to have any lasting effects on Thomas, especially after Tuesday's big collision.

"I wouldn't worry about it after that," Phillips said. "I'd worry about the other guy."

Hatcher, Dixon Banged Up

Defensive end Jason Hatcher was limited in Tuesday's practice because of a sore shoulder, but Cowboys head coach Wade Phillips thinks he should be available for Saturday's preseason opener. Rookie defensive end Marcus Dixon's sore back might not be as cooperative, however.

Dixon missed Tuesday's workout and could sit out against the Chargers. The rookie free agent out of Hampton needs as many reps as possible if he wants to crack a deep defensive line rotation.

Hatcher, a nickel rusher last season, appeared to aggravate his shoulder during team drills on Monday.

Studious Scandrick

Rookie cornerback Orlando Scandrick has made his share of plays through the first 12 practice days, but the fifth-round pick has also impressed the coaching staff with his preparation in meetings.

"One of the earlier sessions I was in there, [secondary coach] Dave Campo asked a question and he was the only one who could answer it," Phillips said. "Campo had gone over some things and almost verbatim he came out with the answer.

"It impressed me that he's listening. He's a smart guy, he tries to do the techniques that you ask, and he's got a lot of ability."

Short Shots

Rookie running back Felix Jones showed his versatility in team drills by splitting wide and beating the coverage downfield for a would-be touchdown . . . Center Andre Gurode and defensive tackle Remi Ayodele had a physical exchange in one-on-one drills that ended with Gurode getting slammed to ground, his helmet skittering . . . Cornerback Terence Newman continued to rehab his strained groin on the sideline. Quincy Butler (hamstring) also missed practice . . .

alexamenos · 08-06-2008, 12:08 PM

i've already set my dvr to record the first pre-season game. i'm thinking maybe i need to get the hbo hookup so i can watch some hard knocks. i can't say romo without giggling and blushing a little.

Underdog · 08-06-2008, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by alexamenos

i can't say romo without giggling and blushing a little.

totally gay.

alexamenos · 08-06-2008, 12:34 PM

i'm not totally gay, it's just that he's so cute.

Caseman · 08-06-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by alexamenos

i'm not totally gay, it's just that he's so cute.

sike · 08-06-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Rookie running back Felix Jones showed his versatility in team drills by splitting wide and beating the coverage downfield for a would-be touchdown . . . . . .

exciting...

sports pants excitement warning at level orange

Underdog · 08-06-2008, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alexamenos

i'm not totally gay, it's just that he's so cute.

alexamenos · 08-06-2008, 01:38 PM

i giggled and blushed a little when I saw that picture.

i also giggled at sike's threat level assessment on his sports pants, which i'm pretty sure means I'm either full on psyched about the upcoming nfl season or i'm just really really gay.

Underdog · 08-06-2008, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by alexamenos

i'm pretty sure means I'm either full on psyched about the upcoming nfl season or i'm just really really gay.

A little from column A, a little from column B...

(don't mis-interpret that wink!)

alby · 08-06-2008, 02:03 PM

If liking Romo makes me gay, then call the fire department because I'm flaming with Romo love!

ty · 08-06-2008, 02:08 PM

everybody has a little Romosexual in them.

DirkFTW · 08-06-2008, 02:13 PM

I'm still in the closet as a Romosexual.

Wait, forget I said that.

Underdog · 08-06-2008, 02:20 PM

Because REAL MEN wear pink!

sike · 08-06-2008, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Because REAL MEN wear pink!

Making a statement are we?

Underdog · 08-06-2008, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

Making a statement are we?

Where'd you find that old picture of me???

alby · 08-06-2008, 02:35 PM

are you sure thats not a picture of himself trying to be like you?

Underdog · 08-06-2008, 02:36 PM

Well, I DO have a "common look"...

DirkFTW · 08-06-2008, 02:38 PM

The tiny foil cape was a nice touch.

Underdog · 08-06-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DirkFTW

The tiny foil cape was a nice touch.

Yeah, it's the only thing keeping that outfit from looking gay...

(oh, wait...)

alexamenos · 08-06-2008, 02:45 PM

that guy has a little camel toe thing happening....

....and i think i caught a touch of the aids just by noticing that.

sike · 08-06-2008, 02:48 PM

So anyway..that Felix Jones is going be something alongside MB3, huh?

Underdog · 08-06-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

So anyway..that Felix Jones is going be something alongside MB3, huh?

Hell yeah! (and he doesn't wear pink...)

sike · 08-06-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Hell yeah! (and he doesn't wear pink...)

He won't even wear faded red!!!

alexamenos · 08-06-2008, 03:26 PM

oh yes....I can't stop thinking about a three-way with Romo giving it to MB3 and Felix Jones.

and I'm so glad we're off the gay stuff.