03-22-2023, 09:12 PM
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amazing offense and defense to close out the game
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03-22-2023, 09:13 PM
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Kidd calls the TO to draw up the 5pt play
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03-22-2023, 09:14 PM
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If Hardy plays even 5 mores minutes, we win this game. And he likely doesn't play more than 10 minutes of Hardaway plays.
The COACH FUCKING SUCKS!!!!
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03-22-2023, 09:14 PM
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Wtf was that play on offense ato. Followed by a basic PnR they fsil miserably at on defense.
Then we follow it up with that last abortion of a possession and Luka takes a horrible contested layup.
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03-22-2023, 09:18 PM
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About 50 fans scream in excitement when Bullock hits that 3 at the final buzzer. These are the kind of idiots that attend these games and fuel Cubans shit machine. Lolol.
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03-22-2023, 09:19 PM
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We're one win up on the Pels.
Every loss is a blessing
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03-22-2023, 09:20 PM
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Kuminga is a stud. Incredible 2 way player. He needs to get out of the splash brothers shadows at some point.
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03-22-2023, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
Wtf was that play on offense ato. Followed by a basic PnR they fsil miserably at on defense.
Then we follow it up with that last abortion of a possession and Luka takes a horrible contested layup.
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Luka is playing hurt and still gave us 30/17, so it's hard to be mad at him. He actually played the game right getting his team involved even though he shot poorly.
It's all on Kidd this season. Nothing will change with him in charge.
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03-22-2023, 09:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SMC0007
About 50 fans scream in excitement when Bullock hits that 3 at the final buzzer. These are the kind of idiots that attend these games and fuel Cubans shit machine. Lolol.
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naw man those are the 50 that had money on the game and Bullock helped them with the spread...
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03-22-2023, 09:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SMC0007
About 50 fans scream in excitement when Bullock hits that 3 at the final buzzer. These are the kind of idiots that attend these games and fuel Cubans shit machine. Lolol.
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I?m glad Bullock made that and made it a 2 point game. They said Cuban plans to protest the game after that idiotic play by the refs after the timeout. Curious to see what comes of it.
Has any protest worked? Do they made the teams replay like 1 possession?
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03-22-2023, 09:38 PM
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I?m glad Bullock made that and made it a 2 point game. They said Cuban plans to protest the game after that idiotic play by the refs after the timeout. Curious to see what comes of it.
Has any protest worked? Do they made the teams replay like 1 possession?
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Fvck Cuban. That protest ain't doing shit. The league will say "Oh yea, we missed that, sorry".
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03-22-2023, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Luka is playing hurt and still gave us 30/17, so it's hard to be mad at him. He actually played the game right getting his team involved even though he shot poorly.
It's all on Kidd this season. Nothing will change with him in charge.
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He was launching bad 3s in the 4th, why not when we actually need one. I don't blame Luka, I blame Kidd. High School level ATO plays and not having guys ready to play.
We have had too many clutch games to not have improved. All those coaches ans no one can help Kidd create plays? Jfc.
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03-22-2023, 10:12 PM
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Haha. It can be when it's heat of the moment.
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I get it.
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03-22-2023, 10:14 PM
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Cuban protesting a call. We all know that will go well.
Let's try to distract from the reality that is the current team.
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03-22-2023, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
No one truly wants to trade Luka but the FO is incompetent at putting pieces around him.
Look at the buy low trade by Detroit to obtain Wiseman
Now he's producing in a system that fits him better
The mavs FO probably never even considered a guy like Wiseman to fill the big man hole on this team
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I don?t see how trading Luka fixes this.
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03-22-2023, 10:18 PM
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Got the worst road record in the league
Doesn't matter just play Dallas and you'll win on the road
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03-22-2023, 10:25 PM
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Watching the replay of the play before the out of bounds fiasco, Kuminga just rips Luka to the ground by his jersey. How does the ref miss that? The refs are out of control bad. Anything that highlights just how ridiculous it?s gotten is fine with me. Protest away. Do it more often. It costs $10,000.
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03-22-2023, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FreshJive
Watching the replay of the play before the out of bounds fiasco, Kuminga just rips Luka to the ground by his jersey. How does the ref miss that? The refs are out of control bad. Anything that highlights just how ridiculous it?s gotten is fine with me. Protest away. Do it more often. It costs $10,000.
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They will put out an announcement tomorrow to say they messed it up and sorry, but it won't change anything. Won't give us a win and won't change the shitty officiating this year.
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03-22-2023, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Cuban protesting a call. We all know that will go well.
Let's try to distract from the reality that is the current team.
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Classic Cuban to not have his finger on the pulse of the team. THATS what he's protesting?
Does he really need to see us replay a single posession o determine a game? Everyone BUT Cuban knows exactly how that ends.
How about he protest the coaching hire. Protest the superstar incessant whining. Protest our rebounding and defense. Protest that hack D Harper as an announcer lol. Protest the GD 8 inches between sideline and 3pt line?
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03-22-2023, 10:32 PM
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I don?t see how trading Luka fixes this.
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I'm not suggesting trading Luka
I'm suggesting that the FO is incompetent at putting the right pieces around him.
Wiseman was just one of several cheap bigs that this organization never bothered to obtain at the deadline knowing damn well they still lacked rim protection and rebounding
I mean what FO year after year sends a message to its fanbase that they are satisfied or content with Dwight Powell and Maxi kleber being your top two bigs.
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03-22-2023, 10:34 PM
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They will put out an announcement tomorrow to say they messed it up and sorry, but it won't change anything. Won't give us a win and won't change the shitty officiating this year.
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All true, but I don?t see the downside to registering the complaint.
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03-22-2023, 10:35 PM
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Wanting the refs to be better is akin to wanting Cuban to sell the team. Not going to happen. So protesting until you're blue in the face changes nothing.
You can't say you want Luka to stop bitching to the refs when your owner does exactly the same thing.
Yes, refs are awful like every game. Not why we lost IMO.
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03-22-2023, 10:39 PM
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Does he really need to see us replay a single posession o determine a game?
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They would have to play from the time of the ref handing the ball to GS. So the whole 4th qtr.
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03-22-2023, 10:45 PM
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I'm not suggesting trading Luka
I'm suggesting that the FO is incompetent at putting the right pieces around him.
Wiseman was just one of several cheap bigs that this organization never bothered to obtain at the deadline knowing damn well they still lacked rim protection and rebounding
I mean what FO year after year sends a message to its fanbase that they are satisfied or content with Dwight Powell and Maxi kleber being your top two bigs.
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The post I quoted was about trading Luka. It just sounded like you were saying we don?t want to trade Luka, BUT we may have to because the FO sucks. I must admit that I haven?t paid much attention to Wiseman since the trade, but I liked him when he came into the league.
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03-22-2023, 11:04 PM
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They would have to play from the time of the ref handing the ball to GS. So the whole 4th qtr.
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Even worse.
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03-22-2023, 11:07 PM
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The post I quoted was about trading Luka. It just sounded like you were saying we don?t want to trade Luka, BUT we may have to because the FO sucks. I must admit that I haven?t paid much attention to Wiseman since the trade, but I liked him when he came into the league.
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He's been really solid with Detroit since he's actually getting minutes now
But I felt he was one of several bigs who could have immediately helped this team in rebounding
The Mavs FO decided the only addition they needed was kyrie at the deadline
Everyone from the outside could clearly see they needed to make an additional move on top if the kyrie move
Wiseman, Bamba, Thomas Bryant, Dwight Howard, Richaud Holmes or Plumlee would have atleast given you a capable rebounder or rim protector without giving up a kings ransom tp get.
But imo they made that kyrie trade just to shut up the media and fans who were coming down hard on them
Cuban knew he couldn't stand pat after the media leaked how upset Luka was....
He threw us a fucking bone just to silence the noise
MF should have been trying to go all in this year following a WCF's trip.
Now they bought to lose both kyrie and Wood and his ass will sit back and say we tried to upgrade the roster
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03-22-2023, 11:32 PM
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How the fuck does Mcgee not even sniff the floor with this shit happening on a nightly basis
While rebounding isn?t necessarily a defensive thing, it is connected. The Mavericks are just a small team that gets consistently bullied in the paint. The Warriors had 11 offensive rebounds, leading to ample second-chance opportunities. Dallas played three big men in this game ? Maxi Kleber, Dwight Powell, and Christian Wood. Those three combined for 11 rebounds. Kevon Looney for the Warriors had 12 by himself.
Dallas basically plays every game with one armed tied behind its back.
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03-23-2023, 01:32 AM
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Refs didn't mess up anything, it's just that our team is this stupid. They signaled Warriors' ball, it's on video. This is just an awful, low-IQ, badly constructed team. I still cannot be that negative though, since Green and Hardy have such nice potential, and we have a 24-year-old Doncic. Honestly, it's not a bad situation, you should just fire Kidd and do a retool around those three.
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03-23-2023, 02:17 AM
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Luka is the most unlikeable star im the NBA. Complaining and bitching about EVERYTHING. I legit cannot stand watching him play at times..the complete opposite disposition of Dirk. He?s at a CP3 level of bitch on the court. It drives me mad.
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03-23-2023, 06:34 AM
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Why all the outrage? I mean no one is dying.
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03-23-2023, 06:55 AM
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I would be ashamed to protest that. The reality is Kidd, his assistants and players were just asleep at the wheel. No attention to detail and the fruits are beginning to ripen. Mavs are just not coached well. That?s the problem. No one in their right mind would say that Kidd is a championship level coach.
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03-23-2023, 08:12 AM
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Hardy is a baller. Sorry to beat a dead horse, but Mavs aren't far from being legit. It will require a competent coach who challenges Luka and at least one defensive-minded big. Keeping our pick would be a cherry on top. We are 36-37, if we were 35-38 there would be an 80%-ish chance of keeping it.
There are two special defenders in this draft class: Jarace Walker and Cason Wallace. At #10, we would get one of them. Walker, specifically, would be the perfect 4 for us.
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03-23-2023, 08:46 AM
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03-23-2023, 09:38 AM
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Sounds like an excuse an addict makes to blame someone else for their misfortunes.
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03-23-2023, 09:48 AM
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How the fuck does Mcgee not even sniff the floor with this shit happening on a nightly basis
While rebounding isn?t necessarily a defensive thing, it is connected. The Mavericks are just a small team that gets consistently bullied in the paint. The Warriors had 11 offensive rebounds, leading to ample second-chance opportunities. Dallas played three big men in this game ? Maxi Kleber, Dwight Powell, and Christian Wood. Those three combined for 11 rebounds. Kevon Looney for the Warriors had 12 by himself.
Dallas basically plays every game with one armed tied behind its back.
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I ask myself this every game. Like Im just asking for 10 mpg here, Warriors were 28-32 at the rim! THERYE A SMALL TEAM. Mcgee cant alter some of those shots? Dallas makes it so hard on themselves.
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Sounds like an excuse an addict makes to blame someone else for their misfortunes.
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I mean it's petty and we have way bigger problems
That is still 100% bullshit. Mavs were told it was there ball. The announcers called it. The scoreboard recorded it. Then without telling anyone, they handed the ball to the Warriors for an easy score. It's unprofessional behavior.
None of that exonerates Kidd, Cuban, or Luka, but both the Mavs and the refs can both be incompetent dicks.
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03-23-2023, 11:11 AM
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I ask myself this every game. Like Im just asking for 10 mpg here, Warriors were 28-32 at the rim! THERYE A SMALL TEAM. Mcgee cant alter some of those shots? Dallas makes it so hard on themselves.
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You all know the answer to the same question.
I've never thought about just straight up giving up being a Mavs fan since I've been a hard core one since the 90s...
But if Kidd is still coach next season, then I will not be watching. Period. No roster change will change a guy that doesn't believe in calling timeouts for god sakes.
I started disliking Rick towards the end of his tenure, but I always had respect for him. Zero respect for what Kidd has done this season.
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03-23-2023, 11:50 AM
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Again, beating a dead horse... but Cuban has mismanaged the Mavs pretty egregiously. I think we all know Dirk's loyalty, work ethic, consistency, and all-around greatness carried this franchise for years.
The Brunson contract was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. How do you f that up and allow someone who was basically a FRP hit unrestricted free agency after his first contract?! Donnie and Cuban are idiots for allowing that.
BT is on a clock... if we aren't contending next season, the Luka-to-LA voices are going to get loud.
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03-23-2023, 01:06 PM
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Nine games left to play I think we go 5-4
(Remaining Schedule 1 B2B left)
Fri, Mar 24 vs Charlotte 7:30 PM
Sun, Mar 26 at Charlotte 12:00 PM
Mon, Mar 27 at Indiana 6:00 PM NBA TV
Wed, Mar 29 at Philadelphia 6:30 PM ESPN
Sat, Apr 1 at Miami 6:30 PM NBA TV
Sun, Apr 2 at Atlanta 5:00 PM NBA TV
Wed, Apr 5 vs Sacramento 7:30 PM
Fri, Apr 7 vs Chicago 7:30 PM
Sun, Apr 9 vs San Antonio 2:30 PM
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03-23-2023, 01:07 PM
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I mean it's petty and we have way bigger problems
That is still 100% bullshit. Mavs were told it was there ball. The announcers called it. The scoreboard recorded it. Then without telling anyone, they handed the ball to the Warriors for an easy score. It's unprofessional behavior.
None of that exonerates Kidd, Cuban, or Luka, but both the Mavs and the refs can both be incompetent dicks.
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I agree 100%. At the minimum the refs created confusion and then essentially awarded the Warriors 2 pts. That being said, Kidd should have called another time out as soon as he saw the incongruence. That would have provided an opportunity to dispute what was going on. BTW, regardless of the confusion created, was giving the Warriors the ball the correct call? That seems important. There were also several questionable calls in the 3rd and 4th quarter that did not go the Mavs way. All that being said, it is painful to watch Kidd's incompetence. Mavs have played 38 games that ended regulation time with a difference of 6 points or less. They have won half of those games. A really good coach would have better than a .500 record in close games. Moreover, the FO failed to pick up a center/rebounder before the trade deadline or after buy outs. The Mavs are literally last in the NBA in rebounding. Do you really believe you can compete in the playoffs being last in rebounding? Really? The organization is in dire straits, yet they are showing little urgency. Rather, they want to blame the NBA, the refs, and injuries for their lousy season. Truly dysfunctional. Its time to fish or cut bait Cuban. Fix it or sell the team.
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