2018 Free Agency / Armchair GM Thread - Page 25 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Mavs#1Fan · 07-01-2018, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

That's Fish for ya.

DEVIN HARRIS

I have heard very credible people in the last few weeks tell me that DH is absolutely, certainly, unquestionably convinced he is going to be on the team this coming season, and he's been letting people know that. And he has been hanging out in Mavs World.

But then I have heard very credible people in the last few weeks tell me that DH is a Mavs favorite but he is absolutely, certainly, unquestionably NOT going to be on the team this coming season, because they can't fit him in.

My thought was that the latter whispers (which came after it got in the media that he was back) were to try to create some uncertainty, so that the Mavs couldn't be slapped for tampering. (No recruiting is allowed until July 1.) But it's also possible that plans changed from one week to the next.

So I dunno. We'll see how it plays out, but imo he's still possible for slot 15. (Maybe he even has a stone-cold guaranteed promise?)

NeedlesKane · 07-01-2018, 03:47 PM

I'll be thrilled if Seth stays. I feel like we definitely need someone like him around.

NeedlesKane · 07-01-2018, 03:50 PM

Not only do I want Seth Curry to return, but Devin Harris needs to be on this team as well. This is his home.

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2018, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

I'll be thrilled if Seth stays. I feel like we definitely need someone like him around.

Particularly with McBuckets gone

Sharp shooters are money these days and need someone in the corner for Smith and Doncic to hit or the spacing will be terrible

Love the playmaking and sixth man Seth was working on before the injury but honestly I just want some steals on defense and some threes on offense

Mavs#1Fan · 07-01-2018, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

Not only do I want Seth Curry to return, but Devin Harris needs to be on this team as well. This is his home.

At some point we have to start having bigger players. Too many point guards and small combo guards on the roster

Find some 3 and D players

SMC0007 · 07-01-2018, 04:17 PM

Idk why we need Seth and Devin.
Dsj, jj, Brunson, seth, Harris

Doncic, wes

Barnes. Dfs ???

Dfs cant shoot the ball but does everything else well. We need some size at the wing. We also didnt f-ing need Salah.

NeedlesKane · 07-01-2018, 04:21 PM

I sure as hell don't want DFS, but he may be better than anyone else who the Mavericks can sign.

Underdog · 07-01-2018, 05:24 PM

Looks like the Mavs might have interest in Anthony Tolliver...
https://nypost.com/2018/07/01/knicks...ho-wants-more/

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Tolliver, too, is looking for multiple years and has a handful of suitors, including Dallas.

thewizard · 07-01-2018, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Looks like the Mavs might have interest in Anthony Tolliver...
https://nypost.com/2018/07/01/knicks...ho-wants-more/

y tho?

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by thewizard

y tho?

6’8” forward who shot 44% from three not enough?

SMC0007 · 07-01-2018, 06:18 PM

Bright side is Tolliver could give us a shooter at the 3 if we wanted to go tall. He's a bigger threat than Barnes is from the perimeter. For a bench guy he's fairly effective and versatile enough to move around to boost the bench.

sefant77 · 07-01-2018, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

Not only do I want Seth Curry to return, but Devin Harris needs to be on this team as well. This is his home.

Na, its really time to let go. We also have to dig out some minutes for Brunson to see if he is roleplayer material. Btw Brunson is almost 6-3 in shoes and the same weight than Devin.

Also Devin had terrible shooting numbers the last years and Barea/Wes provide enough veteran experience in the backcourt.

Only way i see Devin on this roster is if Yogi walks. If Seth walks i want a good shooter as his replacement, who can stretch the floor.

DSJ/Barea/Brunson/(Yogi)
Wes/(Seth)
Doncic/DFS
Barnes/Powell/Kleber
Jordan/Dirk/Salah

1-3 is set even with just one of Yogi or Seth staying because Barnes is going to play some SF too

Underdog · 07-01-2018, 06:22 PM

@ShamsCharania: Sources: Top brass from the Los Angeles Clippers have flown to Dallas to meet with free agent...

...wait for it...

...forward Anthony Tolliver in his home.

SMC0007 · 07-01-2018, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Na, its really time to let go. We also have to dig out some minutes for Brunson to see if he is roleplayer material. Btw Brunson is almost 6-3 in shoes and the same weight than Devin.

Also Devin had terrible shooting numbers the last years and Barea/Wes provide enough veteran experience in the backcourt.

Only way i see Devin on this roster is if Yogi walks. If Seth walks i want a good shooter as his replacement, who can stretch the floor.

DSJ/Barea/Brunson/(Yogi)
Wes/(Seth)
Doncic/DFS
Barnes/Powell/Kleber
Jordan/Dirk/Salah

1-3 is set even with just one of Yogi or Seth staying...

I love Devin but this isn't a family reunion.

Yogi is the odd man out for me. Id rather have Seth because of his size and shooting.

We need another versatile wing player before I'd say we're set 1-3...but it's close.

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2018, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@ShamsCharania: Sources: Top brass from the Los Angeles Clippers have flown to Dallas to meet with free agent...

...wait for it...

...forward Anthony Tolliver in his home.

To IKEA!

thewizard · 07-01-2018, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

6’8” forward who shot 44% from three not enough?

I just don't see a 33 year old power forward as a need. I didn't know he shot that well though, that's pretty cool.

Me.B · 07-01-2018, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

To IKEA!

Tolliver lives in IKEA?

sefant77 · 07-01-2018, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

I love Devin but this isn't a family reunion.

Yogi is the odd man out for me. Id rather have Seth because of his size and shooting.

We need another versatile wing player before I'd say we're set 1-3...but it's close.

I think they see Yogi and Brunson as longterm Barea and Harris replacement, thats why they try to keep Yogi.

A versatile 3&D wing would be nice but you cant have it all and im fine with going with Seth for now because of his elite shooting. Keep Yogi and Seth and let Devin go.

SMC0007 · 07-01-2018, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

I think they see Yogi and Brunson as longterm Barea and Harris replacement, thats why they try to keep Yogi.

A versatile 3&D wing would be nice but you cant have it all and im fine with going with Seth for now because of his elite shooting. Keep Yogi and Seth and let Devin go.

Rick needs to be saved from himself on the midget ball. The more options he has to run 3 guys under 6'3" out there the more he will probably do.

I believe in Brunsons so let's let yogi walk.

sefant77 · 07-01-2018, 07:25 PM

Two primary Ballhandler DSJ/Doncic and two backups Yogi/Brunson

I think with Doncic midgetball is finally over because one of the three ballhandler is going to be 6-7 tall

Mavs#1Fan · 07-01-2018, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Two primary Ballhandler DSJ/Doncic and two backups Yogi/Brunson

I think with Doncic midgetball is finally over because one of the three ballhandler is going to be 6-7 tall

You forgot JJ

sefant77 · 07-01-2018, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavs#1Fan

You forgot JJ

im talking longterm. Barea is 35 next summer when his contract runs out.

But yeah, at one moment this season Rick is going to roll out four playmaker + Jordan since Doncic can defend some PF

SMC0007 · 07-01-2018, 07:44 PM

One more year of Rick rolls...

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2018, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by thewizard

I just don't see a 33 year old power forward as a need. I didn't know he shot that well though, that's pretty cool.

We just lost McDermott who was also a 6'8" sharpshooter. He fit into our squad so well he was our fourth best guy in terms of +/-

thewizard · 07-01-2018, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

We just lost McDermott who was also a 6'8" sharpshooter. He fit into our squad so well he was our fourth best guy in terms of +/-

Yeah but I've been advocating Mario Hezonja to replace Dougie. Hezonja doesn't shoot as well but he's got potential to get better with better spacing and a little Carlisle magic. I don't really see Tolliver playing the 3 here IMO.

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2018, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by thewizard

Yeah but I've been advocating Mario Hezonja to replace Dougie. Hezonja doesn't shoot as well but he's got potential to get better with better spacing and a little Carlisle magic. I don't really see Tolliver playing the 3 here IMO.

Cool. That's your opinion. I don't think Rick want's Hezonja and it looks like he's heading to the Knicks.

My opinion? We don't need projects around Doncic and Smith. We need guys who are smart and actually follow plays so the young guys can see what its like to master an offense. Tolliver is a smart journeyman who can actually shoot this year.

thewizard · 07-01-2018, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Cool. That's your opinion. I don't think Rick want's Hezonja and it looks like he's heading to the Knicks.

My opinion? We don't need projects around Doncic and Smith. We need guys who are smart and actually follow plays so the young guys can see what its like to master an offense. Tolliver is a smart journeyman who can actually shoot this year.

Cool opinion. We'll see what happens.

Underdog · 07-01-2018, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thewizard

Cool opinion. We'll see what happens.

@wojespn: Portland has agreed to a one-year, $6.5M deal with Mario Hezonja, league source tell ESPN.

sefant77 · 07-01-2018, 08:09 PM

Its Knicks, he corrected it

thewizard · 07-01-2018, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

@wojespn: Portland has agreed to a one-year, $6.5M deal with Mario Hezonja, league source tell ESPN.

Well that sucks. Apparently it's New York. Either way not Dallas. Oh well. I have no clue what we're going to do.

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2018, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by thewizard

Well that sucks. Apparently it's New York. Either way not Dallas. Oh well. I have no clue what we're going to do.

We're going to sign not-Hezonja to a contract.

Underdog · 07-01-2018, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by thewizard

Well that sucks. Apparently it's New York. Either way not Dallas. Oh well. I have no clue what we're going to do.

All the money is drying up, still a few guys left... Like Seth Curry and Dirk Nowitzki.

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2018, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

All the money is drying up, still a few guys left... Like Seth Curry and Dirk Nowitzki.

I've heard of those guys!

3_Ball · 07-01-2018, 08:16 PM

Now that LaBron to LA is official & PG13 stayed with the Thunder... I'll ask again, who exactly are we going to leapfrog to make it into the playoffs next year?

Say we finish 10th in the West, about 6-7 games out of 8th & DeAndre is about what we expect. Great rebounder, efficient rim runner, subpar rim protector, not on the floor late in games. What do we offer him to stay around for year 2? Or do we even want him around for year 2 at that point?

sefant77 · 07-01-2018, 08:17 PM

Dirk who?

Ah Cuban picking up some foreign stiff to sell jerseys overseas...lame ass move all the time

sefant77 · 07-01-2018, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 3_Ball

Now that LaBron to LA is official & PG13 stayed with the Thunder... I'll ask again, who exactly are we going to leapfrog to make it into the playoffs next year?

Say we finish 10th in the West, about 6-7 games out of 8th & DeAndre is about what we expect. Great rebounder, efficient rim runner, subpar rim protector, not on the floor late in games. What do we offer him to stay around for year 2? Or do we even want him around for year 2 at that point?

Our main target is to make DSJ and Doncic look awesome and as future stars. Thats the only way to attract stars as free agents. And Jordan is one of the best realistic pieces to make them look great.

So again: Great offseason for us

Underdog · 07-01-2018, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 3_Ball

Now that LaBron to LA is official & PG13 stayed with the Thunder... I'll ask again, who exactly are we going to leapfrog to make it into the playoffs next year?

Say we finish 10th in the West, about 6-7 games out of 8th & DeAndre is about what we expect. Great rebounder, efficient rim runner, subpar rim protector, not on the floor late in games. What do we offer him to stay around for year 2? Or do we even want him around for year 2 at that point?

I dunno, maybe we should wait until the season starts before we start making predictions about next year? A lot can happen between now & then.

Not sure why you're so eager to start complaining, as if this offseason hasn't been phenomenally better for us than anyone could have predicted.

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2018, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Dirk who?

Ah Cuban picking up some foreign stiff to sell jerseys overseas...lame ass move all the time

83 million Germans that haven't had reason to watch the NBA. Underrated move IMO

Me.B · 07-01-2018, 08:20 PM

With the Mavs having very little cap space left they are just going to have to wait and see who falls through the cracks.

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2018, 08:23 PM

Playoff teams that have gotten worse
Spurs
Thunder (well, maybe waiving Melo is addition by subtraction, but they aren't better)
Trailblazers (maybe-- could see them implode if they don't do anything)

Playoff teams that have gotten better
None

Non-playoff teams that have gotten better
Mavs
Lakers
Suns