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XERXES · 05-14-2010, 10:54 AM

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lol yeah.

I am going to try as hard as I can to get through the last 3.5 hours of LOST before twisting off on them any further. There's still time...

Yeah I think this is a good point. I think we need to hold off on further judgment until we get at least another episode under our belt.

I'm the sure this next one will set up some epic battle in the finale. As i alluded to several weeks ago- the "chess pieces" are being moved to strategic points (or killed off.)

I do think someone is going to come out of nowhere to save the day in the finale. I think it will be Ben or perhaps Rose and Bernard. But I do think some unlikely hero will step in at the last moment and help defeat MiB. Just a hunch.

sike · 05-14-2010, 10:56 AM

for what its worth I think I may need to kill my own theory about mother being a type of smokey...

if she was a smokey, then wouldn't she NOT have a body to be laid to rest? (Ala Adam and Eve)

Thoughts?

sike · 05-14-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by XERXES

I do think someone is going to come out of nowhere to save the day in the finale. I think it will be Ben or perhaps Rose and Bernard. But I do think some unlikely hero will step in at the last moment and help defeat MiB. Just a hunch.

If Rose and Bernard are in another scene of consequence on the island, this show has probably chosen a bad time to jump the shark.

LonghornDub · 05-14-2010, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by XERXES

I do think someone is going to come out of nowhere to save the day in the finale. I think it will be Ben or perhaps Rose and Bernard. But I do think some unlikely hero will step in at the last moment and help defeat MiB. Just a hunch.

I dunno if he qualifies as "unlikely," but Desmond has been buried inside a well for a few weeks, and I think he'll be the one who shows up to save the day.

sike · 05-14-2010, 11:41 AM

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I dunno if he qualifies as "unlikely," but Desmond has been buried inside a well for a few weeks, and I think he'll be the one who shows up to save the day.

without question, Desmond will be a huge player in the end...

I hope he dies. (Only because I don't want a nice happy feeling at the end because everyone left get's their happy story.)

Flacolaco · 05-14-2010, 11:47 AM

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If Rose and Bernard are in another scene of consequence on the island, this show has probably chosen a bad time to jump the shark.

They have brought Rose and Bernard back for premiers and finales before, and I hope they do again. It stands to reason that they were brought back to 2007 when the others were (if only because they wouldn't just kill them with a bomb in 1977...)

They're probably doing the same thing they were doing before. Besides, someone has to be taking care of Vincent. I seem to recall an interview they did some time back where they said that Vincent would survive until the end.

sike · 05-14-2010, 11:55 AM

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They're probably doing the same thing they were doing before. Besides, someone has to be taking care of Vincent. I seem to recall an interview they did some time back where they said that Vincent would survive until the end.

I'm afraid it would feel too much like, "Hey, we're still around"...at this point, its just unnecessary. And if it IS necessary to the story...then its shark jumping.

I hope they didn't add the extra 30min to "the end" because a ton of characters we don't still care about are going to make cameos.

Flacolaco · 05-14-2010, 11:56 AM

But... <tiny voice> I like to see Rose and Bernard </tiny voice>

sike · 05-14-2010, 11:59 AM

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But... <tiny voice> I like to see Rose and Bernard </tiny voice>

there...

http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl...nd+be&gs_rfai=

Flacolaco · 05-14-2010, 12:03 PM

Just for that...I hope Rose is the new Jacob!

sike · 05-14-2010, 01:02 PM

a VERY cool little Michael Emerson in an interview here: http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/popwra...gDq8cgC0s2PxaM

Felt that some of it was too spoilerish to post...but this was interesting...

Interviewer: A lot of fans have wondered what the actual purpose for the flash-sideways is -- will it eventually be explained?
Michael: Yes, but they’re not going to spoon feed it to you. For me, the ending of the series required some analysis. It’s not given to you on a dish, neatly organized with a fancy bow put on the end of it. What it does have is a great soulfulness and the ending is human scale.

sike · 05-14-2010, 01:12 PM

the 2 ABC promo vids for this week's episode: http://lostspoilers-odi.blogspot.com

XERXES · 05-14-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

If Rose and Bernard are in another scene of consequence on the island, this show has probably chosen a bad time to jump the shark.

I dont think that would qualify as jumping the shark. It would answer a question AND solve a problem. I don't think it'll happen- but I dont think its an insane idea.

Flacolaco · 05-14-2010, 11:08 PM

So, they released the official podcast for Across the Sea

In it they say that if you were happy with the cork metaphor, maybe you didn't really need Across the Sea (like me.)

Let's revisit it now, shall we?

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JACOB: [picks up the bottle of wine] Think of this wine as what you keep calling hell. There's many other names for it too: malevolence, evil, darkness. And here it is, swirling around in the bottle, unable to get out because if it did, it would spread. The cork [raises cork] is this island and it's the only thing keeping the darkness where it belongs.

That's exactly what I wanted some background on in Across the....Grrrr. Anyway.

But they do say that the "heart of the island" is important for the finale. So we can take that much from it at least. For me, I'm still rolling with the cork metaphor as the season six thesis going forward. Those four sentences explained more about season six than Across the Sea did... But I digress.

Big Boy Laroux · 05-15-2010, 01:23 PM

jthig32 · 05-15-2010, 02:20 PM

Bill Simmons' lateset podcast is an hour-long talk with Cuse if anyone's interested.

Link

u2sarajevo · 05-15-2010, 03:15 PM

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This brings up an interesting point... where are they? Were they the ones trying to blow up the airplane? And if so how did they get past the guards?

Flacolaco · 05-15-2010, 03:39 PM

I rather bought Flocke's theory on moving the fences and placing the guards there as being a ruse by Widmore.

It will be pretty funny if that turned out to be that trio....maybe they were standing over in the bushes watching that go down (Locke killing the guards.)

XERXES · 05-17-2010, 10:47 AM

Is tomorrow night's episode any-specific-character centric?

Flacolaco · 05-17-2010, 10:59 AM

I doubt it. They seemed to be bringing everyone together in the flash sideways (the last time we saw them, way back when) and I would imagine that will continue.

If this is a typical pre-season finale LOST episode, it will be bringing people together and positioning them carefully for whatever climax to which they are building.

Besides...everyone has had a centric, right?

Flacolaco · 05-17-2010, 10:59 AM

A week from today we will be discussing the end.

That seems very odd to me.

XERXES · 05-17-2010, 12:00 PM

I know. This thread has an expiration date. How sad.

Big Boy Laroux · 05-17-2010, 12:36 PM

no, we'll be bitching about the ending for years to come. Then we'll be discussing the inevitable LOST movie (after all, Fox is retiring from TV acting, not movies...)

Flacolaco · 05-17-2010, 12:39 PM

lol "LOST movie"

This is why I think the island will somehow sink or get destroyed. They strike me as the kind of people who want to burn and destroy their entire fictional space so no one can ever even suggest something like that.

Big Boy Laroux · 05-17-2010, 12:52 PM

hey you can have a LOST movie with a new island.

you don't think we're gonna have an entire LOST universe with fan-fiction and debates over what is "canon"?

jthig32 · 05-17-2010, 01:19 PM

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hey you can have a LOST movie with a new island.

you don't think we're gonna have an entire LOST universe with fan-fiction and debates over what is "canon"?

Cuse told Simmons that he had no doubt that the Lost universe would be put to some use after the show was over, but that he and Lindeloff had zero interest in a movie or anything else. He made it very clear that they've told their story and are done, and they really left nothing to tell with the finale.

XERXES · 05-17-2010, 01:20 PM

I like it. "LOST: the movie" Follow DriveShaft's rise to stardom and finally understand who was shooting at the time traveling canoe paddlers!!

Flacolaco · 05-17-2010, 01:34 PM

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I like it. "LOST: the movie" Follow DriveShaft's rise to stardom and finally understand who was shooting at the time traveling canoe paddlers!!

The good news is that the canoe shooting has GOT to be coming up tomorrow or Sunday.

sike · 05-17-2010, 01:39 PM

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The good news is that the canoe shooting has GOT to be coming up tomorrow or Sunday.

nope...they said they werent going to address it.

Big Boy Laroux · 05-17-2010, 02:00 PM

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Cuse and Lindelof talk about the episode.

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/whats-al...across-the-sea

Some notes - they do say there will be some additional answers (including to some questions raised last night - i'm sure there will be), they don't plan on addressing the outrigger shooting, and they're pretty much douches.

here is the interview where they say that they won't be addressing the canoe/outrigger.

they could be lying, of course.

Flacolaco · 05-17-2010, 02:13 PM

Wow, I had not seen that.

That's just cruel, if true.

edit: And now I've read it...wow, that kind of pisses me off. That's the second time they've pissed me off in a week. Why are they souring our relationship right at the end?

In fact, it doesn't even make sense. If they're saying that they knew who was on the other side of that exchange... it doesn't make sense. It's not like it's going to happen sometime in the future after the finale, because things will be "settled", right? So if that's the case, they're saying it happened somewhere along the way, and they didn't show it? Someone got shot and they didn't show it? I don't think it makes any sense, unless it was a boat full of random others. Why don't they just say "we decided to continuity there."?

sike · 05-17-2010, 02:21 PM

couldn't care less about the outrigger issue

Big Boy Laroux · 05-17-2010, 02:25 PM

the implication from the scene (and now knowing what we know about the ajira flight) is that it was alana and her people. But they're all dead now.

Or it could have been some of widmore's folks, who found the plane. Maybe they came over to get Jin, then on the way back, saw one of their canoes had been taken. Then one of them could have gotten shot, they address the scene, and it doesn't result in a main character dying (i still think the ultimate would have been sawyer in the outrigger getting shot by Juliet).

Flacolaco · 05-17-2010, 02:33 PM

If, well over a year ago, they were writing the 5th episode of season 5 (or whatever it was) and they were thinking "19 episodes from now (or whatever) there are going to be non A-level cast members shooting at these main cast members, and we may show the other side of this or we may not...

I'm sorry, I just doubt it...or if it's true, then I'm starting to think they're a little bit crazy. That thought process doesn't add up for me.

But whatever. If no one like Sawyer (agree, that would have been epic) got shot, then we move on without it because it's just not that important.

sike · 05-17-2010, 02:39 PM

with a 2.5 hr last episode...I'm wonder how many significant characters will bite it this week's show?

Flacolaco · 05-17-2010, 02:45 PM

I think the flash sideways has totally mitigated any consternation I have over deaths on the island. I think they'll likely kill a few more (or nearly all) of them in the main time line, and we'll all be comforted that they'll live on anyway (kind of) in the sideways universe.

sike · 05-17-2010, 02:48 PM

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I think the flash sideways has totally mitigated any consternation I have over deaths on the island. I think they'll likely kill a few more (or nearly all) of them in the main time line, and we'll all be comforted that they'll live on anyway (kind of) in the sideways universe.

I don't give a spoiled rat terd about the sideways timeline...

XERXES · 05-17-2010, 04:16 PM

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I don't give a spoiled rat terd about the sideways timeline...

I love it when you quote Shakespeare.

LonghornDub · 05-17-2010, 04:23 PM

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In fact, it doesn't even make sense. If they're saying that they knew who was on the other side of that exchange... it doesn't make sense. It's not like it's going to happen sometime in the future after the finale, because things will be "settled", right? So if that's the case, they're saying it happened somewhere along the way, and they didn't show it? Someone got shot and they didn't show it? I don't think it makes any sense, unless it was a boat full of random others. Why don't they just say "we decided to continuity there."?

It makes a lot of sense IMO. Their go-to move for the first 5 or so seasons of this show was piling mystery on top of mystery, question on top of question to keep the tension up and the audience interested. They've abandoned most of those mysteries because "the answer" (whatever it may be, hypothetically) is generally 1/10th as interesting as the mystery itself.

Big Boy Laroux · 05-17-2010, 04:36 PM

Longhorndub = Carlton cuse

they abandoned the mysteries when they finally figured out what the answer was going to be. Doesn't make the first 5 seasons any less enjoyable, but it is annoying as hell.