Offseason 2010 Thread - Page 26 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Kidd Karma · 06-30-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkenstien

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...y_approaches/#

Do we have a "rolls eyes" icon? Talk about trying to push for a story.

I guess they carefully edited out the part about meeting Nelson at his home, rather than have Nelson fly out to Germany. Thus saving recruitment time.

Dirkenstien · 06-30-2010, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Some quotes on Haywood.

The bolded part at the end is the most interesting tome. That's an aggressive tone Donnie is setting.

Like I've mentioned in another thread, I don't see where the major threat is of us entering a bidding war for Haywood. There aren't many teams out there who can afford to pay more than what we're willing to pay him. Are there teams with cap space? Yes. Do those teams want to use $9-10million of that cap space to sign Haywood and sacrifice any chance they may have had at a top FA? I highly doubt it.

A fair deal for Haywood would be to sign a deal starting at around $7million for 4-5 years. I think we'd be willing to go up to $8m over 5 years or maybe even $7m over 6 years but we shouldn't start bidding against ourselves.

mkat · 06-30-2010, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Link

well I'm sold.

dude1394 · 06-30-2010, 06:38 PM

I'm thinking at the end of the day it will be Paul Pierce. He's seemed to be joined in time with the dirkster and he would be the type of creative small forward that josh never could be.

We'd have to clear out marion/caron and replace jet at the end of games and we'd be set.

Thomas86 · 06-30-2010, 06:55 PM

I would love to have Haywood come back to the Mavs....he's a smart player if you ask me, when Damp was out Haywood was the only center on the Mavs was was ble to stay out of foul trouble every game, Haywood is a must if the Mavs want to match up with the Lakers.

xrobx · 06-30-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

I'm thinking at the end of the day it will be Paul Pierce. He's seemed to be joined in time with the dirkster and he would be the type of creative small forward that josh never could be.

We'd have to clear out marion/caron and replace jet at the end of games and we'd be set.

i hope not because paul pierce isn't that good anymore, he makes his living at the free throw line nowadays, which he can easily get to with the combination of being one of the biggest floppers in the league and playing for the celtics, a stern favorite team. all of that ends when he puts on a dallas uniform.

grndmstr_c · 06-30-2010, 07:07 PM

Man, this is too funny. Bucher's now saying LeBron is likely to stay in Cleveland.

BGMaverick9 · 06-30-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Man, this is too funny. Bucher's now saying LeBron is likely to stay in Cleveland.

I just saw that. You know it's funny...we obviously see this as BS, we won't know anything concrete for a little bit. BUT if we hear something about Dallas, it'll be a nut-factory on this board. I can't wait for 11 pm here.

FINtastic · 06-30-2010, 07:13 PM

Apparently LeBron is going to be playing for no less than five teams next year.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-30-2010, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Man, this is too funny. Bucher's now saying LeBron is likely to stay in Cleveland.

Ric Bucher and Chris Broussard are straight up clowns. I knew the BS meter would be high, but this is ridiculous. They seem to be putting themselves in a position where if they make every prediction, then they will be right at the end of the day.

Kidd Karma · 06-30-2010, 07:40 PM

Celtics interested in Damp, looks like Perkins out for a while:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...gentbuzz063010

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Besides Brad Miller, Boston has interest in acquiring Dallas center Erick Damper [sic], especially with Kendrick Perkins sidelined six to seven months.

Underdog · 06-30-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Celtics interested in Damp, looks like Perkins out for a while:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...gentbuzz063010

DUST for Pierce?

BGMaverick9 · 06-30-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

DUST for Pierce?

They'll hear Pie..and hang up.

BGMaverick9 · 06-30-2010, 08:59 PM

OK - with the mindset that we're chasing LeBron, Joe...maybe Wade

Let's say it's relatively quiet:
LeBron stays, Joe Stays or goes somewhere outside of Dallas, Wade stays, Dirk stays, Pierce Stays.

Boozer, Bosh, and Amare are the big pieces to go.

Are you bummed, pissed, optimistic and still excited?

I'd actually still lean towards optimism because you still have pieces to work with.

Underdog · 06-30-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

OK - with the mindset that we're chasing LeBron, Joe...maybe Wade

Let's say it's relatively quiet:
LeBron stays, Joe Stays or goes somewhere outside of Dallas, Wade stays, Dirk stays, Pierce Stays.

Boozer, Bosh, and Amare are the big pieces to go.

Are you bummed, pissed, optimistic and still excited?

I'd actually still lean towards optimism because you still have pieces to work with.

We'd still have a metric sh!t-ton of guys to choose from...

I'll start getting worried if we miss out on Andre Iguodala or Al Jefferson-caliber players...

BGMaverick9 · 06-30-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

We'd still have a metric sh!t-ton of guys to choose from...

I'll start getting worried if we miss out on Andre Iguodala or Al Jefferson-caliber players...

Exactly, that's why i'm not that worried if we miss out on this first big wave. There is still at least 3-4 solid waves behind it.

LonghornDub · 06-30-2010, 09:25 PM

I'm fine with getting one of those "second wave" guys as long as there isn't some crazy Lebron+Dirk+Bosh combo in Miami or whatever. I don't even see the point in worrying about the Mavs contending for the next few years if that happens. It's hard enough to compete with the Lakers.

BGMaverick9 · 06-30-2010, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

I'm fine with getting one of those "second wave" guys as long as there isn't some crazy Lebron+Dirk+Bosh combo in Miami or whatever. I don't even see the point in worrying about the Mavs contending for the next few years if that happens. It's hard enough to compete with the Lakers.

My gut is telling me Bosh goes to Miami, Cleveland keeps Lebron (the Byron Scott news/negotiating hints towards that).

So I can't see that trio landing in Miami. The next fear would be Chicago but I don't see that happening at all. So we'll still be loaded with assets to find offers to improve the team. There are some internal things alone that would help the team.

Underdog · 06-30-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

I'm fine with getting one of those "second wave" guys

Personally, I'd want at least two "second wave" guys if we miss out on bigger fish...

LonghornDub · 06-30-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Personally, I'd want at least two "second wave" guys if we miss out on bigger fish...

If we keep Roddy, I'd be satisfied with a second-wave guy plus a third-wave guy. And re-signing Haywood.

Underdog · 06-30-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

If we keep Roddy, I'd be satisfied with a second-wave guy plus a third-wave guy. And re-signing Haywood.

Haywood seems like a given at this point unless we're talking about getting someone like Kaman...

What's your definition of a third-wave guy? (are we stooping as low as Shaq, or are you thinking bigger?)

FINtastic · 06-30-2010, 10:46 PM

Only 15 minutes to go until free agency starts and LeBron signs with 15 NBA teams and one European team. Are you guys as excited as I am?

Underdog · 06-30-2010, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by FINtastic

Only 15 minutes to go until free agency starts and LeBron signs with 15 NBA teams and one European team. Are you guys as excited as I am?

wASHINGTON gENERALS OR pISMO bEACH pANTHERS?

Dirkenstien · 06-30-2010, 11:01 PM

Well, it's official. Let the games begin!

BGMaverick9 · 06-30-2010, 11:03 PM

Game on!

Underdog · 06-30-2010, 11:04 PM

Have we signed LeBron yet?

BGMaverick9 · 06-30-2010, 11:07 PM

Give it five more minutes

jthig32 · 06-30-2010, 11:09 PM

From Brian Windhorst twitter:

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Sometime today the #Cavs are expected to contact Brendan Haywood. There is a chance of a double sign-and-trade to Dallas with Shaq.

BGMaverick9 · 06-30-2010, 11:11 PM

Wow
That must be the teaser on db.com

jthig32 · 06-30-2010, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Wow
That must be the teaser on db.com

Nah it's not. And I wouldn't put much stock in it.

BGMaverick9 · 06-30-2010, 11:20 PM

Yeah I saw that... Good to know about roddy. Wood is the big news right now

fluid.forty.one · 06-30-2010, 11:21 PM

Cuban says he won't include Roddy in a trade for JJ. For what it's worth....

Thomas86 · 07-01-2010, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

From Brian Windhorst twitter:

If that goes down then Cuban and Donnie need to find something else to do other than basketball.

BGMaverick9 · 07-01-2010, 12:39 AM

Stein's twitter:

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STEIN_LINE_HQ Yes: Brendan Haywood is potential S-and-T piece for Mavs. But Mavs sources insist there is "no chance" he moves in sign-and-trade for Shaq

Haywood is meeting with Us, Miami and Cleveland tomorrow.

grndmstr_c · 07-01-2010, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Stein's twitter:

Haywood is meeting with Us, Miami and Cleveland tomorrow.

As if that stupid little rumor even required debunking.

BGMaverick9 · 07-01-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

As if that stupid little rumor even required debunking.

Those two teams can't be taken lightly though...

grndmstr_c · 07-01-2010, 01:01 AM

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Those two teams can't be taken lightly though...

The teams working something out can't be taken lightly, and the possibility that Shaq and Wood might end up switching teams can't be completely discounted...but the notion of a Wood-Shaq swap as floated - as if that'd be the punchline to a deal between the Cavs and Mavs - is absurd.

Rick41 · 07-01-2010, 01:11 AM

ESPN Dallas is reporting Damp wants the full MLE from the Mavs.

BGMaverick9 · 07-01-2010, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

The teams working something out can't be taken lightly, and the possibility that Shaq and Wood might end up switching teams can't be completely discounted...but the notion of a Wood-Shaq swap as floated - as if that'd be the punchline to a deal between the Cavs and Mavs - is absurd.

Right...the idea as a whole of that swap is absurd. Shaq isn't on the level with Haywood, so we are expected to pay Haywood money but get Shaq?

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Originally Posted by Rick41

ESPN Dallas is reporting Damp wants the full MLE from the Mavs.

Good luck

grndmstr_c · 07-01-2010, 01:18 AM

db.com's been saying for a while now that Damp's going to be looking for a good payday, so that report of an MLE price point shouldn't be a surprise.