11-04-2018, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Seems like Luka is getting touches. It’s just the rest of the team that is trash and not sure we can just go to Luka every single play and expect to win. I’m already worried that we’re wearing him down now.
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As I mentioned in the other thread, it's the balance that isn't there. He'll get the ball off the break or heavily in certain quarters, mostly the end, but is largely ignored in half court sets early on. Luckily, this is easily remedied once the vets and the rest of the team recognize it.
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11-04-2018, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
As I mentioned in the other thread, it's the balance that isn't there. He'll get the ball off the break or heavily in certain quarters, mostly the end, but is largely ignored in half court sets early on. Luckily, this is easily remedied once the vets and the rest of the team recognize it.
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Bingo... Seems like we lean on Doncic the most once the game is already out of hand. I wouldn't be surprised if he sees his heaviest usage in garbage time.
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11-04-2018, 01:04 PM
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Bingo... Seems like we lean on Doncic the most once the game is already out of hand. I wouldn't be surprised if he sees his heaviest usage in garbage time.
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Well he creates the garbage time. He's part of a starting lineup that can't score or defend and finds itself replaced with a second unit that can. It's not like he's the victim of only going out there when the game is out of hand like a third/fourth string player. Dude starts both halves and is part of a first unit that digs those holes.
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11-04-2018, 01:55 PM
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Which is why arrows are now pointed at the coaching. Rick just needs to make adjustments to the starting lineup, the way plays are run, and who needs the ball in their hands. You can't stay a course of losing against bad teams at home.
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11-04-2018, 06:05 PM
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Well he creates the garbage time. He's part of a starting lineup that can't score or defend and finds itself replaced with a second unit that can. It's not like he's the victim of only going out there when the game is out of hand like a third/fourth string player. Dude starts both halves and is part of a first unit that digs those holes.
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Guilt by association.
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11-06-2018, 01:58 AM
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wrong thread
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11-27-2018, 03:25 PM
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Can Luka and Dennis fit together?
https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/1...c-dennis-smith
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It might not be possible for the Mavs to prioritize Doncic and Smith at the same time. Doncic has a net rating of minus-5.5 in 405 minutes with Smith and plus-10.3 in 202 minutes without him. One solution that a lot of NBA teams use is staggering the minutes of their two lead ball handlers to give each time to run the offense unimpeded. The problem for Dallas is that giving Smith more time with the second unit would mean playing him next to another point guard (Barea) who needs the ball even more than Doncic. Smith and Barea were like oil and water last season, with a net rating of minus-7.7 in 395 minutes together.
The Mavs are caught in a dilemma. There’s no spot in the rotation for Smith if they play Doncic at point guard, but they can’t afford to give up on Smith, either. The long-term consequences are too high.
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11-27-2018, 04:53 PM
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"There’s no spot in the rotation for Smith if they play Doncic at point guard."
LMAO such drama! And so silly it is too...
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11-27-2018, 05:17 PM
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"There’s no spot in the rotation for Smith if they play Doncic at point guard."
LMAO such drama! And so silly it is too...
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Smith hit 6'4" and is hitting threes at 47% (70.8% of which are assisted).
Dude is going to be fine playing off-guard.
He just needs to not be terrible defensively.
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11-27-2018, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Smith hit 6'4" and is hitting threes at 47% (70.8% of which are assisted).
Dude is going to be fine playing off-guard.
He just needs to not be terrible defensively.
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He’s hitting 39.3% of his threes (which is fine, but a far cry from 47% which would be Curry-like.
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11-27-2018, 07:21 PM
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He’s hitting 39.3% of his threes (which is fine, but a far cry from 47% which would be Curry-like.
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*In November
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11-27-2018, 07:22 PM
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He’s hitting 39.3% of his threes (which is fine, but a far cry from 47% which would be Curry-like.
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I think EL meant on catch and shoot 3's. So his off ball 3 shooting is nice. DSJ does need to move more when off ball, he kinda looks like Wall out there sometimes and doesn't move. He's still not used to it. Mavs need to find a way to make it work eventually. DSJ and Luka are hard workers I think they will figure it out. Luka is great off ball as well, so both can do it, it just hasn't materialized yet. Luka has had years to develop all areas. DSJ has had maybe a year. And that first year with JJ and him together was kind of extreme. JJ kinda dribbles the air out of the ball, he makes it work but Luka is much easier to share the court with I would think.
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11-27-2018, 07:22 PM
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*In November
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Or that.
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12-14-2018, 08:05 PM
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https://stats.nba.com/articles/luka-...ent-in-dallas/
Luka Leads Exciting Youth Movement In Dallas
12/13/2018 at 02:12pm
By Ian Levy
Nylon Calculus, brought to you by The Step Back
Dallas built its team with a mixture of both veterans and youth, which led to intrigue around how this blend would work. However, Luka Doncic has been absolutely as good as advertised and, as they prepare to play the Suns tonight on TNT, the Mavericks find themselves at 15-11 and in the No. 7 seed in the Western Conference. Strong play from veterans like Wes Matthews, Harrison Barnes, J.J. Barea and DeAndre Jordan has helped support their surprising surge.
The Mavericks’ youth movement is about more than just Doncic’s breakout rookie season. Several other key young players are showing that they can be a key part of both the present and the future in Dallas.
Luka Doncic
Doncic has been sensational, immediately stepping into the role of primary ball-handler and shot-creator for the Mavericks, averaging 18.0 points, 6.8 rebounds and 4.4 assists per game, shooting 42.5 percent from the field and 36.9 percent on 3-pointers. Any concern about Doncic’s ability to create offense against NBA-caliber athletes has been put to rest. He’s still developing his timing and finishing but Doncic is among the league-leaders in drives per game and has kept defenses on their toes by hitting 37.4 percent of his 3-pointers off the dribble.
You can see from his hot spots, how much of his effectiveness has been focused on the middle of the floor where he’s able to exploit defenses in the pick-and-roll.
As impressive as his offense has been in general, Doncic has been nearly untouchable in clutch situations. The Mavericks have an 8-5 record in games where the margin was five points or less at any time in the final five minutes. Doncic has played 33 clutch minutes in those games, essentially a single game’s worth of court time. In those minutes, he’s put up 40 points, 7 rebounds and 4 assists, shooting 63.6 percent from the field and hitting 3-of-7 3-pointers. Most incredibly, given the offensive load he’s shouldered in these situations, he has just a pair of turnovers.
Doncic has already proven he can lead this team’s offense from the beginning of a game all the way to its biggest moments. As the rest of the young cast develops around him, this team is just going to keep getting better and better.
Dorian Finney-Smith
With Doncic established as the team’s primary creator, surrounding him with shooters and versatile defenders is essential. Perhaps no Maverick has fit that mold better than Dorian Finney-Smith this season. Although the second-year wing has primarily defended shooting guards this season, his defensive matchup data classifies him as one of the few NBA players who has spent at least 10 percent of his defensive possessions matched up with every position from point guards through centers. His size, wingspan and athleticism have made him successful in a variety of matchups and unlock all sorts of lineup combinations.
Finney-Smith is also hitting 43.8 percent of his catch-and-shoot 3-pointers this season and finishing nearly 60 percent of his shots inside of 10 feet. There may not be much room for him to grow as a shot creator but as a low-usage role player, he has the potential to be incredibly effective.
Dennis Smith Jr.
Smith Jr. is still figuring out how to work in tandem with Doncic, functioning as an off-ball threat and secondary creator is largely new territory for him. However, he’s shown some encouraging signs of growth. The second-year guard is hitting 35.9 percent of his 3s this year, up from 31.3 percent last year. He’s been respectable on catch-and-shoot opportunities (36.6 percent) but also improving on the all-important pull-ups shots as well (34.3 percent).
It’s going to take some time for Smith Jr. to fully weaponize his skill set and athleticism to find and create space off the ball, but considering how new this all is, the Mavericks have to feel encouraged by his steady improvement.
Maxi Kleber
Kleber is another ideal role player for the roster the Mavericks are building. The second-year forward has great size -- listed at 6-foot-11 -- and the mobility to slide down and defend smaller players as well. Matchup data estimates he’s spent nearly 40 percent of his defensive possessions matched up with shooting guards or small forwards. Kleber has also been exceptional using his size to help protect the rim and his 46.9 defensive field goal percentage inside of six feet of the basket is the third-best in the league among the 140 players who defend at least three shots per game in that area.
Kleber looks the part of floor-spacer but so far his catch-and-shoot numbers are hovering around 30 percent. That number could come up but even if it doesn’t, his defensive versatility allows the Mavericks to build all sorts of interesting lineups, especially when they look to play small without a traditional center.
Jalen Brunson
Brunson, a second-round pick, is still growing into a role and his outside shooting, a crucial piece of his long-term potential as a backup point guard, has yet to come around. Still, he looks the part of a heady veteran, as you would expect from a three-year college starter and winner of two national titles.
He’s been very effective in picking his spots off the dribble and creating shots for himself, and his turnover ratio is a minuscule 8.2 percent. When his 3-point shot starts falling he’s going to be an even more important piece for the Mavericks in a potential playoff run.
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12-14-2018, 08:19 PM
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Good stuff Skywalker!
Feel like Brunson’s 3 ball bound to come around soon. But what’s up with his ft shooting?
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12-15-2018, 12:06 PM
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Youth movement with Kleber and DFS....okay....Kleber is 27 next month and DFS is 26 in may....
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12-24-2018, 07:45 PM
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01-03-2019, 10:07 PM
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I don't ever promote products online, but The Athletic has their 1-year subscription on sale for a ridiculously-low $29.99 (2.49/mo). It's usually $59.99+... Bob Sturm, Shams Charania, Tim Cato (our own tcat075!), etc.: https://theathletic.com/checkout/?pc...SAAEgKc9PD_BwE
Get it while it's good! (and if you don't already know what it is, ask)
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01-04-2019, 10:32 AM
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Quote:
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I don't ever promote products online, but The Athletic has their 1-year subscription on sale for a ridiculously-low $29.99 (2.49/mo). It's usually $59.99+... Bob Sturm, Shams Charania, Tim Cato (our own tcat075!), etc.: https://theathletic.com/checkout/?pc...SAAEgKc9PD_BwE
Get it while it's good! ( and if you don't already know what it is, ask)
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What is it?
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01-04-2019, 12:20 PM
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Quote:
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I don't ever promote products online, but The Athletic has their 1-year subscription on sale for a ridiculously-low $29.99 (2.49/mo). It's usually $59.99+... Bob Sturm, Shams Charania, Tim Cato (our own tcat075!), etc.: https://theathletic.com/checkout/?pc...SAAEgKc9PD_BwE
Get it while it's good! (and if you don't already know what it is, ask)
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Along with Jamey Newberg and Levi Weaver.... Levi Weaver might be the best sports writer the DFW area has to offer..
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01-04-2019, 12:26 PM
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What is it?
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It's where all the best sports writers have disappeared to... They do city-by-city coverage, so the writers happen to be hardcore fans of the teams they cover -- no phonies here, every article is a deep dive. They're stuffed full of statistics, video breakdown, and everything else a hardcore fan like you and I would appreciate. Frankly, if ESPN hadn't give a truckload of money to Zach Lowe, he probably would be working for the Athletic because his style fits exactly what they're doing.
Hell, they're also offering a free trial if you're interested in learning more: https://theathletic.com/benefits/
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01-04-2019, 12:30 PM
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Along with Jamey Newberg and Levi Weaver.... Levi Weaver might be the best sports writer the DFW area has to offer..
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Yeah, I don't really follow the Rangers, but I have read a few of Weaver's articles and they are definitely engaging. Not familiar with Newberg, but I have yet to run across a mediocre writer on The Athletic, so I'll take your word on him.
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01-04-2019, 03:54 PM
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Yeah, I don't really follow the Rangers, but I have read a few of Weaver's articles and they are definitely engaging. Not familiar with Newberg, but I have yet to run across a mediocre writer on The Athletic, so I'll take your word on him.
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Newberg was just a fan that started his own website several years back..and started distributing an email several times a week about the Rangers.. It turned into him covering all of the minors as well..gradually developed into him opening up by far the best Rangers online forum. He also added a writer or two along the way that covered the minors in depth. Every day during the season, I receive an email with a write up on each minor league team. Newberg continued to email out articles multiple times a week on the Rangers and developed a list of top 72 minor league prospects with in depth analysis on each. AND about 20 years ago or so, he came out with his first Rangers book that included all of his articles from throughout the season, prospect information and more. He's everything Mike Fisher always wanted to be....at a significantly higher level.
Unfortunately, when the administrator of the forum died unexpectedly recently, Newberg closed the forum. I was really disappointed in this.. It was the only good forum to talk Rangers baseball.
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01-04-2019, 06:01 PM
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Thanks. I'll check it out. I pretty much only follow the Mavs and FCDallas closely. I watch the cowboys and am only a fan because their my home team. Rangers and baseball is too slow and boring. Not a fan of hockey.
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01-07-2019, 10:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Murphy3
Newberg was just a fan that started his own website several years back..and started distributing an email several times a week about the Rangers.. It turned into him covering all of the minors as well..gradually developed into him opening up by far the best Rangers online forum. He also added a writer or two along the way that covered the minors in depth. Every day during the season, I receive an email with a write up on each minor league team. Newberg continued to email out articles multiple times a week on the Rangers and developed a list of top 72 minor league prospects with in depth analysis on each. AND about 20 years ago or so, he came out with his first Rangers book that included all of his articles from throughout the season, prospect information and more. He's everything Mike Fisher always wanted to be....at a significantly higher level.
Unfortunately, when the administrator of the forum died unexpectedly recently, Newberg closed the forum. I was really disappointed in this.. It was the only good forum to talk Rangers baseball.
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I remember seeing you around there. Good times. Doubt it's restored now and the Athletic may have played a part in that all along (since his admins death as you mentioned).
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01-07-2019, 02:38 PM
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Sefko fired from the DMN
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Was just about to post the same. Apparently they laid off 20 writers, yet somehow Cowlishaw still has a job... I wonder if The Athletic gives Eddie a look.
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Not surprising. Dunno how these papers make money these days.
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Sad but not unexpected.
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01-10-2019, 05:24 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...mples.amp.html
Pretty interesting stuff. Glad the Mavericks are always looking to stay ahead on technology and using it for their advantage. I’m curious how affordable that could be for the everyday person.
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01-10-2019, 07:56 PM
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Thats old stuff...common with every professional soccer team. My german 3rd division soccer team does this blood tests at least twice a year (before the season and after winter break)
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I wouldn't vaunt a technology that keeps our team fresh, when our team is listless and lazy.
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01-12-2019, 10:40 AM
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I wonder what JJ’s bloodwork said before he blew his Achilles.
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01-22-2019, 08:37 PM
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@ESefko: With Rick Carlisle breaking the news at his pregame presser, I can confirm that I am now a Mavericks' employee. While the role is evolving, I'll keep Twittersphere updated about where to find the videos, the Q&As, the podcasts, the words and more that will crank up soon. #blessed
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01-22-2019, 08:48 PM
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@ESefko: With Rick Carlisle breaking the news at his pregame presser, I can confirm that I am now a Mavericks' employee. While the role is evolving, I'll keep Twittersphere updated about where to find the videos, the Q&As, the podcasts, the words and more that will crank up soon. #blessed
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Landed on his feet eh
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01-26-2019, 04:48 PM
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Not a huge fan of the guy who wrote this, but it's pretty spot on what the real issue with the starting lineup is...
https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2019/1...arnes#comments
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I agree. However, many of us have been pointing out this stuff since December, so it's nice for Captain Obvious to put it in print for the broader public. :-D
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@dallasmavs: That's What's Up! @matrix31 shares some fire with @bobbykaralla about the trade deadline craziness, All-Star weekend stories, and a surprise song at the end! https://www.mavs.com/thats-whats-up-episode-31/
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So Donaghy's stance is roughly, "Yeah I bet on games routinely, but I never once used my capacity as an NBA referee to influence the outcomes of the games that I bet on."
Makes perfect sense.
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