Official offseason 2013-2014 thread - Page 27 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

spreedom · 05-22-2013, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

Dwight Howard torn between Lakers and Houston Rockets http://usat.ly/12KSY3j via @USATODAY

I hate to say it, but it's tough to blame him for favoring the Rockets over our current roster. They have a lot of cheap, young pieces in place for the next couple of years and Harden probably has close to a decade left as a top-flight shooting guard. On paper, adding him to Houston would create a better team than adding him to Dallas, unless we freed up additional space and got one or two more dynamic players in the mix.

I see LA as being a marginally better option right now, as well, but I also think there's a very good chance that the Lakers are primed for a big dropoff in the next year or so. Hard to say if the Mavs are in the same boat from Dwight's perspective.

yahyes · 05-22-2013, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

Dwight Howard torn between Lakers and Houston Rockets http://usat.ly/12KSY3j via @USATODAY

So much speculation. But if Dwight got fed up with Dantoni and Van Gundy's scheme of things. I think mainly cause of being one dimensional all offense. Kevin Mchale is practically the same.

Dirk's Knee · 05-22-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Clippers fired VDN, reports Woj. That stings a bit, although unless they hire Phil they won't be getting anybody better than Rick.

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Phil wont work under Sterling...never

Phil was interviewed on Mike and Mike this morning and said without question he does not want to coach. He went as far to say he was actually relieved that D'Antoni got the job in LA rather than him. He restated his position that he wants a FO job, and discussed how physically he just doesn't feel he can give what is needed to be a head coach. Add to the mix that Jeanie Buss is his fiance and is likely to take over the Lakers, Phil will more than likely take the GM spot there. No way in hell he'd work for the Clippers given his ties to the Lakers both professionally and personally, don't see how they would even offer him the job given the huge conflict of interest. The only coach out there I can think of off the top of my head with some name recognition who might be targeted would be Jeff Van Gundy.

DevinHarriswillstart · 05-22-2013, 09:43 AM

Amick is a fairly decent reporter so it is kinda sad to think that we might already be out of the running to get Howard.

Melonhead · 05-22-2013, 10:04 AM

Were not getting Howard or Paul. And Dallas goes and trades away pick in hopes of acquiring Howard. That was specifically said on ESPN bottom line. Its embarrassing how desperate we look for stars to join Dirk.

SMC0007 · 05-22-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Were not getting Howard or Paul. And Dallas goes and trades away pick in hopes of acquiring Howard. That was specifically said on ESPN bottom line. Its embarrassing how desperate we look for stars to join Dirk.

No, We have the pick.

BGMaverick9 · 05-22-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Its embarrassing how desperate we look for stars to join Dirk.

Isn't that the goal for every team - to look for stars that can make their star a secondary star?

I guess the problem is Dallas actually has a chance to do it, they're in the spotlight with their pursuit about it and it doesn't seem incredibly likely to happen.

grndmstr_c · 05-22-2013, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Were not getting Howard or Paul. And Dallas goes and trades away pick in hopes of acquiring Howard. That was specifically said on ESPN bottom line. Its embarrassing how desperate we look for stars to join Dirk.

That post is embarrassing.

Melonhead · 05-22-2013, 11:39 AM

"Chris Paul's preference is to stay with the
Clippers but he wants them to hire an African-American coach, according
to multiple league sources."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...#ixzz2U2Gpx2Zx

Sorry for not drinking the kool aid on the board, but our chances are so small AGAIN. The exact same situation as last year.

I jumped the gun on the pick. Theyre going to trade it away in hopes of acquiring Howard. There are guys to be had in this draft.

Melonhead · 05-22-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I guess the problem is Dallas actually has a chance to do it, they're in the spotlight with their pursuit about it and it doesn't seem incredibly likely to happen.

This is more of my line of thinking. Its all out there in the media (which can be a good and bad thing) about their pursuit, yet the chances are extremely minuscule.

Underdog · 05-22-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

"Chris Paul's preference is to stay with the
Clippers but he wants them to hire an African-American coach, according
to multiple league sources."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...#ixzz2U2Gpx2Zx

Sorry for not drinking the kool aid on the board, but our chances are so small AGAIN. The exact same situation as last year.

I jumped the gun on the pick. Theyre going to trade it away in hopes of acquiring Howard. There are guys to be had in this draft.

You're stating another rumor as a fact...

sefant77 · 05-22-2013, 11:53 AM

Conan strikes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=0TKFNkZj6Ac

BGMaverick9 · 05-22-2013, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

This is more of my line of thinking. Its all out there in the media (which can be a good and bad thing) about their pursuit, yet the chances are extremely minuscule.

It's certainly not a problem to me that they're trying, or that it's become public knowledge.

DTownKidd · 05-22-2013, 12:50 PM

CP3 isn't going to leave LA. Clippers still have a little room to improve and are already a high playoff seed, I don't see why he would want to come here to an, unfortunately, lesser situation. Adding CP3 makes this team 4-8 seed IMO.

I would say Houston is 3 years ahead of us in terms of position for the future. Right now, while we could build to contend with Dwight and Cp3 the long term of that team is ~3 years to contend where as Houston could be 5+

Melonhead · 05-22-2013, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

You're stating another rumor as a fact...

Im going to go with the multiple league sources. He didnt like Del Negro, and they got rid of him. Or is that a rumor too

jasonic · 05-22-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

"Chris Paul's preference is to stay with the
Clippers but he wants them to hire an African-American coach, according
to multiple league sources."

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...#ixzz2U2Gpx2Zx

Sorry for not drinking the kool aid on the board, but our chances are so small AGAIN. The exact same situation as last year.

I jumped the gun on the pick. Theyre going to trade it away in hopes of acquiring Howard. There are guys to be had in this draft.

If that's a problem for the Mavs..

.. there, solved!

EricaLubarsky · 05-22-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Im going to go with the multiple league sources. He didnt like Del Negro, and they got rid of him. Or is that a rumor too

Multiple league sources also claimed that Chris Paul had already been traded to the Lakers, too.

Kidd Karma · 05-22-2013, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Im going to go with the multiple league sources. He didnt like Del Negro, and they got rid of him. Or is that a rumor too

Lebron didn't like Mike Brown and the Cavs got rid of him.....only to see the mistake and rehired him.

Melonhead · 05-22-2013, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Multiple league sources also claimed that Chris Paul had already been traded to the Lakers, too.

Didnt that happen until stern blocked it?
Making a racist claim is a lot different than the millions of trade rumors that take place each off season.

Underdog · 05-22-2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

Making a racist claim is a lot different than the millions of trade rumors that take place each off season.

It's far less substantiated.

rabbitproof · 05-22-2013, 08:55 PM

This sounds like a time for....................

ODDS MAKING TIME!!

Unleash the forum functionality and place yer bets.

GermanStandard · 05-23-2013, 01:50 AM

What is going to happen in the offseason?

Cuban and the Mavs desperately reaching for Paul and Howard.

Mavs even give away their Pick in this years draft.

Paul and Howard of course will not sign with the Mavs.

Mavs dont get a pick in the draft and sign multiple 35+ year old vets to be in the race for superstar free agents next year ending up 9th 10th in the west getting a shit pick for the draft, trading it to get a superstar, failing to do so and so and so on and so on.

sefant77 · 05-23-2013, 08:28 AM

Mavs dont give their pick away. If they dont want to add the salary they will trade the pick for a future mid 1st.

MavsFTR · 05-27-2013, 09:37 PM

Reports saying Pierce is likely to be bought put. What if we got him? That could help our case to D12 and CP3.

spreedom · 05-27-2013, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsFTR

Reports saying Pierce is likely to be bought put. What if we got him? That could help our case to D12 and CP3.

Unless we signed him for the minimum (which won't happen) there is a zero percent chance we can sign him at market value and also afford both of those guys. Best chance for us would be if we signed one of Dwight/CP3 and signed Pierce with the MLE.

grndmstr_c · 05-27-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

Unless we signed him for the minimum (which won't happen) there is a zero percent chance we can sign him at market value and also afford both of those guys. Best chance for us would be if we signed one of Dwight/CP3 and signed Pierce with the MLE.

Under the cap teams don't get an MLE. Only a room exception, which if memory serves should be worth about half the MLE or a little less.

spreedom · 05-27-2013, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Under the cap teams don't get an MLE. Only a room exception, which if memory serves should be worth about half the MLE or a little less.

Wouldn't we get the MLE if/when we were up at the cap? Or do we have to be there before the start of free agency?

grndmstr_c · 05-27-2013, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

Wouldn't we get the MLE if/when we were up at the cap? Or do we have to be there before the start of free agency?

My understanding is that the Mavs would have to irrevocably give up their right to use the MLE in order to create the room needed to sign DH or CP.

Dirk's Knee · 05-28-2013, 09:24 AM

What do you guys think about David West? Watching the Pacers/Heat series, I've been pretty impressed with him. As I don't think we'll land Howard or Paul, perhaps we could build a 4 man rotation around West, Dirk, Sarge, and Wright?

SMC0007 · 05-28-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirk's Knee

What do you guys think about David West? Watching the Pacers/Heat series, I've been pretty impressed with him. As I don't think we'll land Howard or Paul, perhaps we could build a 4 man rotation around West, Dirk, Sarge, and Wright?

I like West a lot. He has the intangibles, toughness and intelligence we could use in a big man. I doubt he'd be interested in coming here to play off the bench but he's not big enough to play Center consistently. Wright is fine as Dirks backup. We need to get a solid 5 and a Pg. nothing else will do.

Dirk's Knee · 05-28-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

I like West a lot. He has the intangibles, toughness and intelligence we could use in a big man. I doubt he'd be interested in coming here to play off the bench but he's not big enough to play Center consistently. Wright is fine as Dirks backup. We need to get a solid 5 and a Pg. nothing else will do.

While I favor the traditional 5 man line up as well, it seems Miami does well without a traditional center or really a strong point guard. I realize there is but one Lebran James and we don't have a player on the roster strong enough to play a point-forward style game (I also remember some of the darker years with Nowitski at center) but couldn't an alternative line up work with essentially dual power forwards with Nowitski and West on the floor? Just looking at what's out there and wondering...

saclare · 05-28-2013, 10:57 AM

Why wouldn't the Celtics simply amnesty Pierce, instead of buying him out?

spreedom · 05-28-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by saclare

Why wouldn't the Celtics simply amnesty Pierce, instead of buying him out?

With a buyout they owe him $10M less.

Underdog · 05-28-2013, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirk's Knee

What do you guys think about David West?

mac222b · 05-28-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

'Roid Rage

saclare · 05-28-2013, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

With a buyout they owe him $10M less.

That makes sense then!

sefant77 · 05-28-2013, 02:47 PM

Why should we waste a lot of cap for a PF?!

yahyes · 05-28-2013, 02:51 PM

Hell no to David West. I'd rather keep Brand and dump Wright to add space drafting a big man.

grndmstr_c · 05-28-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by yahyes

Hell no to David West. I'd rather keep Brand and dump Wright to add space drafting a big man.

You had me at hell no, and then lost me at dump Wright.

yahyes · 05-28-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

You had me at hell no, and then lost me at dump Wright.

I'm sorry. But I've seen Wright the last 2 years here. He's a piss poor rebounder or defender. At least Brand establishes himself in the paint to defend key guys. Have Brand go back to his PF position with an valuable center. That'd be fine. Not to mention if we're drafting a big man, Wright should be the one not re-signed.