Postgame: Mavs swept by Bucks

[BGMaverick9]

Source confirms @ArtGarcia_NBA tweet: Symptoms indicate Caron Butler suffered at least partial tear of patella tendon. Could be season-ender

[41mvp]

we haven't choice Jet must play

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Source confirms @ArtGarcia_NBA tweet: Symptoms indicate Caron Butler suffered at least partial tear of patella tendon. Could be season-ender

Well this certainly puts pressure on the Roddy situation until/unless a trade is made. I'm gonna try to be optimisic and say that we can still compete with Kidd/Roddy/Marion/Dirk/Chandler.

[Bayliss]

And I'm glad Fisher on FSN last night called out Jason Terry. Fisher told Terry that he couldn't be Mariano Rivera, he had to pitch 9 innings.And that is so true.

If Terry takes it upon himself to do what Butler did against Sa (Ie go for 30+)... Mavs win this game. But at this stage in his career... Terry can't do that. He can't do it because he doesn't get the 5+ pick and rolls from Dirk where Dirk's man never leaves Dirk so therefore Terry gets a wide open 15 footer in rythym. Same out of the double team, when it gets swung to Terry off of Dirk on the blocks.

Terry has been the culprit for all 3 of the losses.

And the same thing will happen in the playoffs when people will gameplan for him.

[mavErika]

Sefko has the same:

Caron Butler likely has tendon injury, source says


CLEVELAND - Early indications are that Mavericks' forward Caron Butler has at least a partial tear of the patella tendon in his right knee, although the full extent of the injury suffered Saturday night at Milwaukee will not be known until his doctor visit today, a source close to Butler said today.

Such an injury could jeopardize the rest of the season for Butler, or at least a major portion of it.

Butler stayed over in Milwaukee Saturday night and was due back in Dallas today to get a thorough examination and an MRI by team physician, Dr. T.O. Souryal.

Dominique Jones is likely to be recalled from the NBA Development League Texas Legends and could rejoin the team in Cleveland for tonight's game against the Cavaliers.

Butler, having a solid season and an extremely productive last month, hurt the knee when he took off for a rebound on a shot that Jason Kidd made. Before he came down from his jump, he already was grimacing and reaching for his knee.

In the delicate balance of an NBA season, this is an earthquake shaking the Mavericks' house. They had started strongly and had been placed alongside San Antonio , the Los Angeles Lakers, Boston and Miami as legitimate threats to challenge for the NBA title.

If Butler is lost, that status certainly will have to be re-evaluated. Butler had been evolving as the primary sidekick to Dirk Nowitzki and if he misses significant time, it means a shakeup with the Mavericks' rotation. It's not just a new starter at small forward, but the domino effect will put more strain on the Mavericks' depth.

--Eddie Sefko

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archi...injury-so.html

[dude1394]

I would look hard at someone from the d-league who is a flat out shooter. We kind of just need another offensive guy to get us to jet. Closers would be dirk, ty, jkiddo, jet, marion. I'm okay with that closing group...we just need to get some quality minutes offensively before we get there.

Dojo will be a body, but he still looks way,way too inconsistent.

[dude1394]

Maybe blake can fill in a lot better than hoped. If nothing else he should be an excellent way to stretch the floor. But unfortunately neither he nor dsteve get into the paint...

hmm...maybe dojo might be some help after all.

[Bayliss]

Dojo will be a body, but he still looks way,way too inconsistent.

DoJo probably won't be great. But your statement can be said for EVERY Mav not named Dirk.

[FINtastic]

I'd hope that Mahinmi might get a shot at some of the power forward minutes vacated by Marion. I don't know if I can really put up with Brian Cardinal getting 13 minutes every night at power forward if he is going to continue being such a liability on the boards.

[Kante]

Man, so the season is over for Butler?

If so, goodbye dreams...

[FINtastic]

Originally Posted by dude1394

I would look hard at someone from the d-league who is a flat out shooter. We kind of just need another offensive guy to get us to jet. Closers would be dirk, ty, jkiddo, jet, marion. I'm okay with that closing group...we just need to get some quality minutes offensively before we get there.

Dojo will be a body, but he still looks way,way too inconsistent.

Maybe we can take a look at Joe Alexander off Frisco NBDL team. He doesn't really fit your characterization as a shooter, but he's a very athletic forward who has been playing pretty well down there and can score some. He's a former lotto pick who wasn't all that successful when he entered the league, but I guess you can hope that he's figured some things out in the D-League.

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by FINtastic

Maybe we can take a look at Joe Alexander off Frisco NBDL team. He doesn't really fit your characterization as a shooter, but he's a very athletic forward who has been playing pretty well down there and can score score some. He's a former lotto pick who wasn't all that successful when he entered the league, but I guess you can hope that he's figured some things out in the D-League.

Either way, if the Mavericks want to make a move like that...they'll have to free up a roster space. Butler's injury should allow that to happen.

With Alexander, he's athletic but he doesn't channel that into being anything than an athletic player. He doesn't have a specialist aspect to any part of his game.

[dude1394]

I just don't see a need for a backup forward just to keep cardinal off the court...if we have a replacement for caron in the starting lineup, then shawn continues to backup dirk just fine. It's a wasted spot imo.

If roddy EVER comes back then hopefully he fills that role, if not, we'll need someone and it's not a forward imo.

[Gray Sage]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Terry shot 6-31 over the last two games...

To go along with his awful defense and consistent turnovers. A complete waste of space and air.

[dude1394]

Jet is in a very bad slump at a very bad time. However he's been pretty solid this year until this patch. He obviously doesn't have enough talent to carry the load without the dirkster around, but not many do.

[Popeye]

Joe Alexander has pretty good shooting stats in D-League and you think that would translate. If he can hit the open shot to go along with his athleticism then he might be worth the call up. Maybe he's not any better than Cardinal or Novak, but it's not like you lose anything, and if nothing else you keep another team from signing the 24 year-old former lottery pick.

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Jet is in a very bad slump at a very bad time. However he's been pretty solid this year until this patch. He obviously doesn't have enough talent to carry the load without the dirkster around, but not many do.

He is in a very bad slump at a very bad time since years: every damn playoffs.

Since the Thunder game (Dirk goes down = time to step up for up similar to a hard playoff opponent) he delivered 29.9% from the field and 20 Assist / 9 TO.

He shouldnt even be a 3rd option anymore because u just cant count on him. He is a wildcard, nothing more. No key player to rely on.

[grndmstr_c]

Assuming Caron is out for the year, I'd guess Marion moves into the starting lineup at SF, and likely sees his minutes there double. His overall PT probably goes up a decent bit, too. The hope, and it's not an unreasonable one at all, would be that the starting unit remains every bit as potent as it has been.

It's the forward rotation off the bench that now becomes a major question mark. Short term I think you have to roll with Stevenson as your backup SF. Even if he's a little short for those duties, I'm almost positive he's a better option than Novak, and I don't think there can be any question whether he's played well enough this season to deserve a look. PF probably gets a committee approach. Cardinal figures to continue to be the preferred option, but if the Mavs start playing a smallish 3pt shooter like Stevenson (or Kidd, for that matter) as their backup SF, it seems to me that Ian and Alexis might have some additional value.

[sefant77]

Nice, Barea with a career high 29 points on 52%, two assist and two turnover...

Oh wait, Boykins 26 points on 56% with 6a/3to...

[FINtastic]

Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Assuming Caron is out for the year, I'd guess Marion moves into the starting lineup at SF, and likely sees his minutes there double. His overall PT probably goes up a decent bit, too. The hope, and it's not an unreasonable one at all, would be that the starting unit remains every bit as potent as it has been.

It's the forward rotation off the bench that now becomes a major question mark. Short term I think you have to roll with Stevenson as your backup SF. Even if he's a little short for those duties, I'm almost positive he's a better option than Novak, and I don't think there can be any question whether he's played well enough this season to deserve a look. PF probably gets a committee approach. Cardinal figures to continue to be the preferred option, but if the Mavs start playing a smallish 3pt shooter like Stevenson (or Kidd, for that matter) as their backup SF, it seems to me that Ian and Alexis might have some additional value.

This is part of the reason why I'm leading the "Ian for backup power forward" minutes bandwagon. If you somehow get stuck playing a lineup with Terry and Stevenson at shooting guard and small forward, you've got two of the worst rebounders at their respective positions. You darn well better have people who clean the glass at both power forward and center. Chandler can't rebound everything.

[GermanFan]

maybe dojo getting some minutes is not a bad thing (looking for something possetive :/)

[mavs777]

For part of the 4rth we played with 4 guards: Kidd, Terry, Barea, Stevenson