2011 Second Round Poll: Mavs vs. Lakers - Page 3 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

SMC0007 · 04-29-2011, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Yeah, you're right. I have no idea what the difference is between the regular season and the playoffs. I just started watching basketball this year. Like, yesterday... After I crawled out from under a rock.

The Lakers are awesome. They won a ring last season, so obviously they're better than everybody this season. No point in even playing any games - just crown them and move on to 2011-2012. Obviously the Mavs don't stand a chance because the Lakers are a much better team and completely incapable of losing to the lowly Mavericks... Just like Portland.

You just started watching basketball this year? Then how come you has been a member since like 2006? What rock do you crawl out from under? Do you like December and can you play any instruments on the piano with a guitar? What kind of hair do you like and will it fit in my car? Why? Or do you not care! The Lakers aren't that good as you said about! So dream on? You wish. Grow up pair.

sefant77 · 04-29-2011, 08:23 PM

http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakers...ks-series.html

Five things to watch in Lakers-Mavericks series

mavsman · 04-29-2011, 08:27 PM

Girlie-Men-Link. F'em. Mavs in four.

BGMaverick9 · 04-29-2011, 08:29 PM

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So the lowlife NOHs manage to win two games against the Lakers and yet this thread is filled with nonebelieving Poles. Screw them. If Paul and his team of clowns can shake that tree, we can put it down. Hard. Without any mercy. Mavs in four. Bearded. Masculine. Tough. Count on it. Book it. Mavs in four.

Like the enthusiasm, but you do realize Paul was THE reason they got the wins. The weakness for the Lakers is their inability to guard those ultra-quick guards. Having a guard that can penetrate and finish...and have the ability to shoot with range is a killer.They pushed it because he maximized his strength for as long as he good.

That's not the best indicator to assess how the Mavs will fare.

sefant77 · 04-29-2011, 08:36 PM

+ Pau Gasol playing like a vagina most of the series

Murphy3 · 04-29-2011, 08:41 PM

This is where it would have been nice to have a contributing Roddy B.

sefant77 · 04-29-2011, 08:52 PM

Roddy and Butler.

Roddy as the ultrafast guard giving Fisher/Blake trouble and with Butler much more bench depth with moving Marion back to the bench. Lakers have a thin bench, after Odom is too much inconsistency with Barnes/Blake/Brown.

mavsman · 04-29-2011, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Like the enthusiasm, but you do realize Paul was THE reason they got the wins. The weakness for the Lakers is their inability to guard those ultra-quick guards. Having a guard that can penetrate and finish...and have the ability to shoot with range is a killer.They pushed it because he maximized his strength for as long as he goo
That's not the best indicator to assess how the Mavs will fare.

Appreciate the white flag, but actually when we beat them in January Dirk had only 15 and our whole backcourt went completely nuts on them. They are different than the Blazers in that they are able to stop TC, but they won't deny the pain we're going to hand out. Mavs in four.

EricaLubarsky · 04-29-2011, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mavsman

Appreciate the white flag, but actually when we beat them in January Dirk had only 15 and our whole backcourt went completely nuts on them. They are different than the Blazers in that they are able to stop TC, but they won't deny the pain we're going to hand out. Mavs in four.

I like the Mavs winning the series but no team wins in 4 unless you play the Knicks and have the refs calling game-changing calls for the close ones

AO41 · 04-29-2011, 10:40 PM

I actually think we match up well with the Lakers overall. I think thye have a few better weapons to throw at Dirk than we do at Kobe...but it will be tough for both guys.

The reason i think we match up with them is we have size and a lot of it and this is the only series where we dont have to worry about a crazy penetrating PG and Kidd is better than Fisher. Which means Kidd can focus more on D and possibly guarding Kobe instead of using all the energy to guard Fisher who can only hit Js and that should make things easier for Jet too.

Only one player really worries me as a mismatch and that Odom. But I hope Marion or someone can help with that.

The_Ghost · 04-29-2011, 11:44 PM

The key for the Mavs to win this series against the Lakers is to out-rebound Bynum and Gasol. Artest will also be testing our abilities along with Kobe, but I think Dirk, Tyson, and JT will have an effect on those players. It all depends on speed and rebounding in this series.

SMC0007 · 04-30-2011, 12:16 AM

Elcellent seriss by the Memphises, powerful strong. Congrats to them,

Some goog sereies comin up seewm! okc vs griz 'Dal vs Lakesho

Wrandolphini went to a place not knownst amung many others.

I driunkkl who wins?

OneLove22 · 04-30-2011, 01:33 AM

How much does Brewer play this series? Do we need him for Kobe?

mavs777 · 04-30-2011, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Elcellent seriss by the Memphises, powerful strong. Congrats to them,

Some goog sereies comin up seewm! okc vs griz 'Dal vs Lakesho

Wrandolphini went to a place not knownst amung many others.

I driunkkl who wins?

I don't think OKC Memphis will be that great a series, Ibaka and Perkins are great interior defenders and will slow down Gasol and Randolph, Memphis doesn't have anyone with size to match up with Durant, they might try arthur but is their really any chance that works?

OneLove22 · 04-30-2011, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

I don't think OKC Memphis will be that great a series, Ibaka and Perkins are great interior defenders and will slow down Gasol and Randolph, Memphis doesn't have anyone with size to match up with Durant, they might try arthur but is their really any chance that works?

Battier?

OneLove22 · 04-30-2011, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Roddy and Butler.

Roddy as the ultrafast guard giving Fisher/Blake trouble and with Butler much more bench depth with moving Marion back to the bench. Lakers have a thin bench, after Odom is too much inconsistency with Barnes/Blake/Brown.

Butler wont play and even if healthy inserting him in the starting role would probably hurt more than help... but I agree Roddy can give them trouble.

mavs777 · 04-30-2011, 02:07 AM

Durant can simply shoot over him

mavs777 · 04-30-2011, 02:08 AM

btw terry was right i guess. we caught the spurs in the playoffs lol

OneLove22 · 04-30-2011, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

Durant can simply shoot over him

6ft 8 vs. 6ft 9

j0Shi · 04-30-2011, 02:58 AM

I agree that Roddy could be a tough matchup for the Lakers. They have problems with speedy guards off the P&R. Problem is: Roddys P&R offense is beyond atrocious.

j0Shi · 04-30-2011, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by xrobx

"Lakers will destroy Dallas. The best scenario for LA was to get Dallas. Dallas has no answer for Kobe. FACT."

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Bryants eFG% against Dallas this season is 41.53% Not very scary. Odom: 58.57%, Gasol: 54.55% and Bynum 70.73%. That's more of a concern ...

mavs777 · 04-30-2011, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OneLove22

6ft 8 vs. 6ft 9

Durant got at least 3 real inches on him. If Durant is 6-9 Battier is 6-6/6-5

mavs777 · 04-30-2011, 03:42 AM

http://www.nba.com/insidethenba/

click on the latest show tab
Charles makes his prediction in the kobe vs mavs video
mavs vs lakers round 2 a good listen too imo

Bynum4MVP · 04-30-2011, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Roddy and Butler.

Roddy as the ultrafast guard giving Fisher/Blake trouble and with Butler much more bench depth with moving Marion back to the bench. Lakers have a thin bench, after Odom is too much inconsistency with Barnes/Blake/Brown.

This was the key here.

CP3 was too quick for the Lakers and RoddyB has killed the Lakers before. However, seems RoddyB lost his touch.

The loss of Butler is the real killer though. With Butler, the Mavs could guard Kobe straight up. Now you have to either put Kidd on Kobe (terrible) or Kidd on Artest (bad). The Mavs have nobody to guard Kobe that wouldn't hurt them in another area.

With Caron, the Mavs actually do match up well with the Lakers. Without him, it's 4 on 5 due to the Kidd guarding Kobe problem.

And a 235 lb Chandler going up against a 285 lb Bynum will result in alot of TC sitting on the pine (no it's not the refs...it's the 50 lb difference).

Expect to see alot of Haywood in this series.

Kante · 04-30-2011, 10:13 AM

They start Stevenson on Kobe and Marion on Artest so no missmatch there, but at the end it puts Kidd on Artest and Marion on Kobe because Terry will be on the court and guarding Fisher!

xrobx · 04-30-2011, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bynum4MVP

Expect to see alot of Haywood in this series.

haywood is the guy we justified keeping because "he can defend big centers like bynum" i guess we'll soon find out but i have my doubts

Bynum4MVP · 04-30-2011, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kante

They start Stevenson on Kobe and Marion on Artest so no missmatch there, but at the end it puts Kidd on Artest and Marion on Kobe because Terry will be on the court and guarding Fisher!

That's the quandry I'm talking about.

If Stevenson is in, no JET. If it's JET and Kidd, then one of them has to guard Kobe or Artest which neither of them can really do.

You go with Stevenson and you lose JET's offense. You go with JET and you lose defense on Kobe or Artest (Artest was great in punishing Bellineli in the Hornets series).

That's why Butler was key to this series...without Caron Butler, the Mavs can't defend Kobe or Artest straight up without losing JET or putting Kidd on Artest which is a bad idea.

PartywithDirk · 04-30-2011, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

Durant got at least 3 real inches on him. If Durant is 6-9 Battier is 6-6/6-5

I don't know man...I think it's going to be a battle. Memphis took 3 of 4 (granted, it was before Perk came over)...but Randolph and Gasol killed in all 4 games.

Durant did average 30 against Memphis, but I think they throw Battier and Allen (when he's not guarding RW) against him to try and slow him down.

I think the Thunder win, but I say in 7.

LonghornDub · 04-30-2011, 12:15 PM

Game 1 tickets secured. See you at Staples on Monday night, BG.

snackdaddy · 04-30-2011, 02:08 PM

Series is gonna be interesting. I think it all depends on the Lakers. They tend to look disinterested when not in a must win situation. That approach will eventually come back to bite them. If they come out and hold serve in the first two games, I believe they win in 5 or 6. If they take the foot off the gas in either game and lose, Dallas can steal a series victory if they play hard at home. I think Dallas has no room for error at home. They win all home games and they have a chance.

The wild card is Dallas mental state should they lose games 1 and 2 or a home game. Will they pack it in and lay down? I thought they might after that loss at Portland. But they responded well and took the series. I think their mental toughness is the key. Its been questioned at times. The Lakers will try and intimidate them. Will they back down or get right in their faces?

Personally I see the Lakers in 7. I think both teams win a game on the road and the rest at home. Don't be surprised to see Dallas steal game 2, but give it back in game 3.

mac222b · 04-30-2011, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

You just started watching basketball this year? Then how come you has been a member since like 2006? What rock do you crawl out from under? Do you like December and can you play any instruments on the piano with a guitar? What kind of hair do you like and will it fit in my car? Why? Or do you not care! The Lakers aren't that good as you said about! So dream on? You wish. Grow up pair.

Just look at it!

mac222b · 04-30-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by xrobx

haywood is the guy we justified keeping because "he can defend big centers like bynum" i guess we'll soon find out but i have my doubts

Haywood played really well against Portland. I hope some of that focus carries over into the Lakers series. TC simply looked overmatched in previous battles against Bynum.

BGMaverick9 · 04-30-2011, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Game 1 tickets secured. See you at Staples on Monday night, BG.

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One note I've been thinking about. I know the playoffs are a different beast, but I would think the games in the Rose Garden SHOULD help the Mavericks in this upcoming series. I don't see the crowd in LA being as hostile or having the vibe that they're right on top of the the team. Composure will be a huge factor and I think the test that Portland's crowd gave in the first round should help and it should be "easier" in that aspect in this round.

mavs777 · 04-30-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

Haywood played really well against Portland. I hope some of that focus carries over into the Lakers series. TC simply looked overmatched in previous battles against Bynum.

This is true, How TC looked after game 1 against Aldridge makes me think he can have success defensivley against Pau, so I would prefer we see a heavy dose of Haywood when Bynum is in and virtually no Haywood when Pau is playing center for them

wilmtalk · 04-30-2011, 06:18 PM

Interesting. This series is sort of my aniversary as a Mav fan. Even though I am from NorCal I became a Mavs fan during the last Mavs-Laker series. I was sure they would be the team to knock off the Lakers the following year. It's sure been quite a long wait. So you can see how much I am hoping for a different outcome than last time. But this series is a real question mark for me. I just don't know considering all the variables

jthig32 · 04-30-2011, 08:51 PM

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One note I've been thinking about. I know the playoffs are a different beast, but I would think the games in the Rose Garden SHOULD help the Mavericks in this upcoming series. I don't see the crowd in LA being as hostile or having the vibe that they're right on top of the the team. Composure will be a huge factor and I think the test that Portland's crowd gave in the first round should help and it should be "easier" in that aspect in this round.

Yep.

The crowd at Staples for Lakers games as the reputation of being awful. It should be nothing like Portland. Road games should definitely be easier from that perspective.

Murphy3 · 04-30-2011, 10:21 PM

Right now, I'm leaning towards the Lakers in 6. I just don't know that the mavs can slow down the Lakers front line. Plus, the Lakers can make things tougher on Dirk by doubling him with size. I wish Butler was healthy... I think I might lean towards the Mavs if they had a full compliment of players and home court as they obviously would have if Butler had stayed healthy.

vinylstar · 05-01-2011, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomas86

I think Peja should start in this series and have Marion and Terry come off the bench so it whon't be as easy for the Lakers to take Terry out the game, in the 1 Lakers win this season Marion and Terry killed the Lakers bench and Terry/Marion had great games.

Start Peja...if Sasha Pavlovic was able to handle Ron Artest for a few minutes why can't Peja.

Go back and watch the few possessions that Peja guarded Artest. I think you'll change your mind. He bully balled himself right into the paint and score or got fouled everytime.

Budapest Maverick · 05-01-2011, 03:15 AM

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=bryanko01

Will he play?

Also, enough with the "Artest gonna kill us from the post" notion, he's not a good post player, he doesn't have the touch. If he's in the post, that means Gasol or Bynum is not at that time, so by all means, i hope he's posting up all game long.

Dark Cuban · 05-01-2011, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Budapest Maverick

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...1&p2=bryanko01

Will he play?

Also, enough with the "Artest gonna kill us from the post" notion, he's not a good post player, he doesn't have the touch. If he's in the post, that means Gasol or Bynum is not at that time, so by all means, i hope he's posting up all game long.

Yes. Because only one player is allowed in the post.