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@IraHeatBeat: ESPN is reporting the Heat's meeting with Kevin Durant is scheduled for Sunday in New York.
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That's good news on the Whiteside front. Seems Portland is the real competition.
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06-29-2016, 03:32 PM
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@ShamsCharania: Detroit is nearing agreement on a deal to send guard Jodie Meeks to Orlando, league sources tell The Vertical.
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Interesting. I've heard they have interest in Horford. He would make them dangerous. Great compliment to Drummond. More likely they overpay for Ryan Anderson. Really nice young talented roster they're building in Detroit.
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06-29-2016, 03:36 PM
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That's good news on the Whiteside front. Seems Portland is the real competition.
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Great news. So Durant is gonna media whore it up too, huh? Needs a separate day to meet with each team? I can't be thankful enough to have Dirk...
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06-29-2016, 07:39 PM
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@Mmb728: Wade to the #Cavaliers rumors are starting up. #Heat
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06-29-2016, 08:08 PM
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I hear Wade wants to follow Whiteside to Dallas on a discounted contract. Broussard's "source" said it so it must be true. The same source that said Cuban was driving around crying in Houston
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06-29-2016, 09:01 PM
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"Wade's representatives have sent out "feelers" to a few teams regarding their interest in the shooting guard, and two teams in particular are the Dallas Mavericks and San Antonio Spurs, reported ESPN's Brian Windhorst during an appearance on ESPN 790 AM, via Dan Feldman of NBC Sports."
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-on-heat-guard
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06-29-2016, 09:02 PM
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"Wade's representatives have sent out "feelers" to a few teams regarding their interest in the shooting guard, and two teams in particular are the Dallas Mavericks and San Antonio Spurs, reported ESPN's Brian Windhorst during an appearance on ESPN 790 AM, via Dan Feldman of NBC Sports."
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This conversation is in a couple threads, so I'll repeat this here:
@espn_macmahon: "He's just trying to create leverage," an NBA source said of Dwyane Wade putting out feelers to teams, including the Mavs and Spurs, as reported by ESPN's Brian Windhorst.
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06-29-2016, 09:03 PM
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@MavsNetwork: Anyone else find it ironic that the two teams Wade's camp has contacted are the two teams that beat him in the Finals?
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06-29-2016, 09:04 PM
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This conversation is in a couple threads, so I'll repeat this here:
@espn_macmahon: "He's just trying to create leverage," an NBA source said of Dwyane Wade putting out feelers to teams, including the Mavs and Spurs, as reported by ESPN's Brian Windhorst.
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I figured that's what he was doing, but c'mon, it's a slow news day.
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06-29-2016, 09:14 PM
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Some fun tidbits from Zach Lowe's last article before free agency starts:
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Take Marvin Williams: He's 30, coming off a career year, and he brings a positional versatility that could help any team. It would not be preposterous for someone to offer him a two-year, $38 million deal. (Seriously, get ready, everyone.) But if Williams hungers for more guaranteed cash, which team will bend and offer something like (gulp) three years and $50 million?
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I've heard another idea from the great Dunc'd On podcast that a team could offer Williams 2yrs/$50M, with the first year fully guaranteed and the 2nd only $5M guaranteed. I think contracts like that are neat and I hope we get a ton of them in the next week.
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Dwight Howard might be the thorniest test of willpower. Teams are turning up their noses at even a two-year guaranteed deal for Howard anywhere near his max. But progress, real and imagined, can make teams do funny things. The Blazers have a gazillion in cap room, and they want to hold the line in a Western Conference that will be better almost across the board. They could use a defensive anchor at center, and they will absolutely look at Howard, per several league sources.
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The Hawks are reluctant to offer Horford the fifth year only they can dangle, and if they hold firm, they are at grave risk of losing him for nothing, per league sources. (Watch out for the Pistons on Horford; with Wednesday's trade of Meeks, they are one tiny move away from being able to fit his max. They are working to schedule a meeting with Horford over the first 48 hours of free agency, sources say. Horford's fit alongside Andre Drummond is another question entirely.)
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Philadelphia and Brooklyn will be bad, but early indications are that both will go hard after young-ish free agents with untapped upside. They have enough cap space to make it rain with offer sheets, and at worst, they will drive up both prices and the pace of business in restricted free agency -- bad news for a team like the Warriors, who might need to wait out Durant before making a choice on Harrison Barnes.
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5. Will we see more creative contract extensions?
Yes! Here's the deal: If teams have cap room, they can use it on raises for guys who signed their current contracts at least three years ago -- and tack more years onto the end of those deals. Denver did this last season with Danilo Gallinari and Wilson Chandler, and both the Jazz and Pacers seem like good candidates to try with George Hill and Teague -- provided they have the requisite space leftover.
If they play their cards right, the Pacers and Kings could start this process with Paul George and Cousins, respectively, in September. Derrick Favors becomes eligible a month later. The Wizards could engage with John Wall on the last day of July -- the third anniversary of the day he signed his extension.
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And last but not least, his entire section on the Mavs' free agency strategy and outlook:
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Dallas dreams of luring both Mike Conley and Hassan Whiteside on max deals, per ESPN BlackBerry maven Marc Stein, but absent a series of salary-sloughing trades, the Mavericks can't open up the requisite $49 million in room with Chandler Parsons' cap hold sitting on the books. Rumors have already burbled that the Mavs don't want to offer Parsons a max after his knee issues, and that Parsons could seek his payday elsewhere.
The Mavs have whiffed on every big-name free agent since they let Tyson Chandler walk, and they will have a ton of competition for Whiteside and Conley; the Grizzlies are almost as confident about re-signing Conley as they were with Marc Gasol last offseason.
The Mavericks can keep Parsons' Bird rights as they negotiate with bigger fish to hedge against the nightmare scenario of losing out on everyone, though Parsons can torpedo that by signing someplace else right away. Teams are terrified about Parsons' knees and crow they will hold firm at a number below his max. But Parsons is eligible only for the lowest-tier max deal, starting at about $22 million, and a GM on thin ice with chambered cash might bite that bullet -- especially if he can persuade Parsons to take a shorter deal.
Parsons might want to lock in as much moola as possible now; he knows his knees better than anyone, and the uncertainty of a revised collective bargaining deal looms.
Regardless: Dallas again faces serious downside on the treadmill of mediocrity. Dirk Nowitzki doesn't want to leave, but he's also tired of losing in the first round.
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16...flying-shelves
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06-29-2016, 09:57 PM
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Quote:
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@espn_macmahon: "He's just trying to create leverage," an NBA source said of Dwyane Wade putting out feelers to teams, including the Mavs and Spurs, as reported by ESPN's Brian Windhorst.
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$2 million per year for 3 years and your freaking 2006 ring so we can smash it in center court on opening day. We'll work on getting a new replacement though.
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06-29-2016, 10:54 PM
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@NBAOnDefPen: Big reason why Kevin Durant doing the 1+1 contract with the OKC #Thunder makes sense.
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$45 million. Damn. ..... damn.
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06-29-2016, 11:12 PM
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Noah to Knicks apparently. Multiple sources saying everything from Noah is excited to Noah has said he only wants Knicks
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06-29-2016, 11:24 PM
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@TimBontemps: Sources: Joakim Noah is expected to reunite with Derrick Rose & return to NYC on a deal starting around $18 million.
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If true that's shots fired. Howard just saw $$$
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06-30-2016, 12:01 AM
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@TimBontemps: Sources: Joakim Noah is expected to reunite with Derrick Rose & return to NYC on a deal starting around $18 million.
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18M?! When was Noah's last health season? What the hell is Phil Jackson doing? Rose and Noah are both done.
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@espn_macmaho: Execs predict that Dwight Howard might get less than half of max dollars. Wow. http://thelab.bleacherreport.com/wou...rd-31-million/
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06-30-2016, 01:15 AM
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@WindhorstESPN: As they prepare Durant pitch, Thunder looking to clear cap space. Rivals believe they plan to chase Al Horford too. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16...al-horford-too
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06-30-2016, 09:53 AM
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45 million. Jesus almost makes me sick
EDIT: It does
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45 million. Jesus almost makes me sick
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Why?
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06-30-2016, 11:22 AM
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@MarkBermanFox26: NBA sources confirm the #Rockets will meet with Al Horford tomorrow.
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06-30-2016, 11:35 AM
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The Mavs would be dumb not to even consider Howard in the 10-15 range. Don't think his value will be that low though.
Someone good will be squeezed out of the big bucks money though.
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06-30-2016, 11:40 AM
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The Mavs would be dumb not to even consider Howard in the 10-15 range. Don't think his value will be that low though.
Someone good will be squeezed out of the big bucks money though.
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Zaza probably played himself into the 8-10 range with this cap spike, so 10-15 for Dwight seems like a no-brainer. Although I'm guessing he probably goes for more like 15-20.
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Part of Miami's pitch to free agents is optimism surrounding Chris Bosh's health and return to the court. Happy for him... also probably helps the Mavs in the Whiteside sweepstakes.
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16...erik-spoelstra
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06-30-2016, 12:26 PM
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Sounds familiar...
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Miami's pursuit of Durant probably indicates that he'll be back, otherwise why do they think they have a shot? Durant isn't going to a rebuild, which is what they'd be if Bosh retired.
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06-30-2016, 02:34 PM
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@TheVertical: After sitting out last season, Carlos Boozer planning NBA return. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/carlos-...ail&soc_trk=ma
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Eddie Sefko @ESefko 1m1 minute ago
Hearing that Dwight Howard is leaning toward either Boston or Atlanta. Doesn't look like anybody else is left in the picture.
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06-30-2016, 03:49 PM
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Eddie Sefko @ESefko 1m1 minute ago
Hearing that Dwight Howard is leaning toward either Boston or Atlanta. Doesn't look like anybody else is left in the picture.
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If he ends up in Boston, I'd say that all but ensures that Kevin Love will stay with the Cavs. They're the only trade partner that really makes sense, and I can't imagine the Cavs would be willing to help build a potential contender in their own conference.
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06-30-2016, 08:00 PM
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@calvinwatkins: When Dwight Howard starts having his free agent meetings on Friday he'll be seeking a contract starting at $24 million a season according to a source. Howard is expected to conduct his meetings in his hometown of Atlanta. Boston and Atlanta have secured the first meetings with the center. Portland and Charlotte have also expressed interest in Howard, who declined a player option with the Rockets at $23.2 million.
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06-30-2016, 08:50 PM
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@ESPNSteinIine: The Sixers are expected to offer Harrison Barnes 5 years 115m at 12:01 AM
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edit: got me!
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@ESPNSteinIine: The Sixers are expected to offer Harrison Barnes 5 years 115m at 12:01 AM
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06-30-2016, 09:00 PM
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@ESPNSteinLine: If in 2016 you're RT'ing fake accounts tweeting out contracts longer than the rules allow ... I feel very sad for you. #thinkbeforeyouRT
@MavsNetwork: nice try "marc stein"
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06-30-2016, 09:22 PM
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@ESPNSteinLine: OKC, meanwhile, continues to probe the league for potential trade partners to take on Enes Kanter to free up money for a run at Al Horford
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@daldridgetnt: Wizards, moving on from Durant, will try and hammer out framework of new deal for Bradley Beal tonight. Max would run five years, $133M.
@daldridgetnt: Agreement on framework would allow Wizards to pursue other free agents with existing cap space, then officially re-sign Beal.
@ESPNSteinLine: Like DA says: All signs point to the Wizards being prepared to come to a verbal agreement with Bradley Beal on a five-year max and THEN ...
@ESPNSteinLine: And then the Wiz can go out and try to make a deal with an Al Horford or a Ryan Anderson or a Nic Batum before making Beal's deal official.
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@KBergCBS: League sources expect first deals out of the gate to be Andre Drummond and Bradley Beal staying put. Then, free for all begins.
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06-30-2016, 10:31 PM
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Bradley beal for 133m... a guy whose career high PER last season is 15.5, barely above league average. Good grief....
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06-30-2016, 10:50 PM
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Bradley beal for 133m... a guy whose career high PER last season is 15.5, barely above league average. Good grief....
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That's exactly what I was thinking ... but more along holy $hit.
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Bradley beal for 133m... a guy whose career high PER last season is 15.5, barely above league average. Good grief....
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And can't stay healthy to boot...
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Looks more and more like the Rockets are going to lose Dwight for nothing. And they just hired Mike f*cking D'antoni.
Can somebody tell me why the hell Daryl Morey is regarded as some kind of genius? He's a hack as far as I'm concerned.
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