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Melonhead · 06-26-2013, 05:44 PM

Portland is listening to serious offers for Aldridge. Solid dude worth checking out. http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/6/26...arcus-aldridge

BPo001 · 06-26-2013, 05:51 PM

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Portland is listening to serious offers for Aldridge. Solid dude worth checking out. http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/6/26...arcus-aldridge

He plays the same position as our best player.

yahyes · 06-26-2013, 05:52 PM

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Portland is listening to serious offers for Aldridge. Solid dude worth checking out. http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/6/26...arcus-aldridge

I've been keeping up with that past couple days. I even asked their opinion on trading our 13th and Marion for Aldridge.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-26-2013, 06:35 PM

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He plays the same position as our best player.

You could play him at center because of the talent. Mavs don't have the right assets for a trade anyway.

Melonhead · 06-26-2013, 08:26 PM

I figured he could play C at 6' 11" but there's really no way to acquire him.

EricaLubarsky · 06-26-2013, 09:09 PM

Aldridge is actually best at center where he has a pretty amazing +15.1 Net PER and a 27.9 PER positional rating, but that is mostly because he can score on any center in the league. His rebounding is good for a PF but anemic for a center and he just doesn't have the defense or shot blocking to make a good partner for Dirk. Aldridge and a defensive, hard-rebounding PF may be decent, but with Dirk it just doesn't look good.

OneLove22 · 06-26-2013, 11:15 PM

I'm warming up to the idea of Monta. He could play more efficiently alongside Dirk and also is a reliable enough scorer to take a work load away from Dirk.

mavs777 · 06-27-2013, 01:58 AM

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I'm warming up to the idea of Monta. He could play more efficiently alongside Dirk and also is a reliable enough scorer to take a work load away from Dirk.

So could every other NBA player. He is extremely inefficient and takes away shots from more efficient players and plays no defense, stay away.

oilfieldtrash · 06-27-2013, 06:43 AM

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So could every other NBA player. He is extremely inefficient and takes away shots from more efficient players and plays no defense, stay away.

Ellis and Dirk would be a potent combo on offense. Of course I'd rather have Paul but you work with what's available or we go back to plan powder and watch Dirk's game go to waste playing with scrubs like Mike James.

spreedom · 06-27-2013, 08:10 AM

Broussard tweeted that Dwight is likely to leave LA for Dallas or Houston.

mavs777 · 06-27-2013, 08:14 AM

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Ellis and Dirk would be a potent combo on offense. Of course I'd rather have Paul but you work with what's available or we go back to plan powder and watch Dirk's game go to waste playing with scrubs like Mike James.

I'd much rather have Calderon who is extremely efficient a terrific passer and shooter than monta I hurt my teams chances of winning ellis

oilfieldtrash · 06-27-2013, 08:16 AM

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I'd much rather have Calderon who is extremely efficient a terrific passer and shooter than monta I hurt my teams chances of winning ellis

He just doesn't do it for me. He's got no athleticism and with him getting in his thirties I don't see a bright future for him. You complain of Ellis' defense but want Calderon?

nowhereman · 06-27-2013, 08:19 AM

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Broussard tweeted that Dwight is likely to leave LA for Dallas or Houston.

Also just said on Sportscenter that Dallas is the frontrunner, b/c Houston's system is very similar to the one D'Antoni runs

oilfieldtrash · 06-27-2013, 08:21 AM

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Also just said on Sportscenter that Dallas is the frontrunner, b/c Houston's system is very similar to the one D'Antoni runs

Yesssss!

mavs777 · 06-27-2013, 08:38 AM

RT @ArashMarkazi: Lots of talk about Houston, but I like @mcuban and the Mavericks' chances of landing Dwight Howard if he leaves L.A.

mavs777 · 06-27-2013, 08:40 AM

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He just doesn't do it for me. He's got no athleticism and with him getting in his thirties I don't see a bright future for him. You complain of Ellis' defense but want Calderon?

Calderon is a terrible defender that makes up for it with a poor mans Nash offense, Ellis just chucks and is terrible

FromDownTown! · 06-27-2013, 08:45 AM

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RT @ArashMarkazi: Lots of talk about Houston, but I like @mcuban and the Mavericks' chances of landing Dwight Howard if he leaves L.A.

So if we can somehow pry Howard away is there any chance we can get J. Jack or is Jack grounded in GS?

mavs777 · 06-27-2013, 08:47 AM

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So if we can somehow pry him away is there any chance we can get J. Jack or is Jack grounded in GS?

Only if they deal Marion could they afford him

oilfieldtrash · 06-27-2013, 08:51 AM

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Calderon is a terrible defender that makes up for it with a poor mans Nash offense, Ellis just chucks and is terrible

Ellis can take over a game with his offense. Sure he's erratic but I'm liking his chances under Rick. Also hopefully it won't matter as we'll have Dwight here.

mavs777 · 06-27-2013, 08:55 AM

Ellis takes over the game by taking absolutely dreadful shots, making a low percentage of them, and his teams constantly being better with him on the bench.

dirt_dobber · 06-27-2013, 09:00 AM

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Ellis takes over the game by taking absolutely dreadful shots, making a low percentage of them, and his teams constantly being better with him on the bench.

exactly.

Underdog · 06-27-2013, 09:08 AM

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RT @ArashMarkazi: Lots of talk about Houston, but I like @mcuban and the Mavericks' chances of landing Dwight Howard if he leaves L.A.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-27-2013, 09:53 AM

I'm not getting my hopes up because we all saw how Deron Williams turned out, but if Dwight ditched the Lakers for less money to play here? That dude would be quite popular in this town. It would be epic. At least we'll probably know by next week. Finally get this drama over with and get a team assembled.

SMC0007 · 06-27-2013, 10:06 AM

I'm getting a hard on. Do I post pics in the "Random" thread?

LonghornDub · 06-27-2013, 10:19 AM

Y'all chill. It's done.

Underdog · 06-27-2013, 10:21 AM

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I'm not getting my hopes up because we all saw how Deron Williams turned out, but if Dwight ditched the Lakers for less money to play here? That dude would be quite popular in this town. It would be epic. At least we'll probably know by next week. Finally get this drama over with and get a team assembled.

I agree about not getting our hopes up, but the situation between Deron Williams and Dwight Howard couldn't be more different... Deron got to be the face of a new franchise in the shiny, new Barclays Center, on a Nets team that just got Joe Johnson and re-signed Gerald Wallace, with Brook Lopez looking healthy again. On the Lakers, Dwight would be living in the shadows of Kareem/Shaq/Wilt, with a roster that's an absolute mess, especially since there's a good possibility that Kobe misses most, if not all, of next season (and may never fully recover). Not to mention that Dwight seems to hate the bright lights of LA, which is part of why I think he gave a smaller market like Orlando so many chances to put a team around him.

But I also agree that this town would absolutely adore him - a Dwight/Dirk duo would be hard not to love, and would probably go a long way in repairing Howard's image/brand.

rabbitproof · 06-27-2013, 12:56 PM

LaMarcus.

Kirobaito · 06-27-2013, 12:59 PM

Trade 13 and Marion for 17/18.

Sign Howard and Calderon.

Draft Hardaway and Muhammad.

Done.

EricaLubarsky · 06-27-2013, 01:06 PM

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Trade 13 and Marion for 17/18.

Sign Howard and Calderon.

Draft Hardaway and Muhammad.

Done.

I was with you until Muhammad. Dude is overhyped at the college level and will be terrible in the NBA.

Hardaway, Dieng, or Noguiera

escobar317 · 06-27-2013, 01:13 PM

The Ellis hate is getting old. Terrible coach, terrible team, no threats on offense minus he and jennings.

In ricks system he would flourish because he would have another weapon and proper spacing. He is a decent ISO player as well.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-27-2013, 01:13 PM

This is a good rumor day for the Mavs...

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LaMarcus Aldridge hopes the Portland Trail Blazers can improve their roster before the start of the 13-14 NBA season. If that does not happen, Aldridge would prefer a trade.

Sources say Aldridge would prefer a trade to the Chicago Bulls.

The Dallas Mavericks and Los Angeles Clippers would be two other teams high on Aldridge's list.

"LaMarcus loves Portland," said the source. "He spent seven years there and grew as a man. Him going back is a possibility and he knows that. He's a professional, it wouldn't be an issue."

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...ricks-Clippers

mavs777 · 06-27-2013, 01:16 PM

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The Ellis hate is getting old. Terrible coach, terrible team, no threats on offense minus he and jennings.

In ricks system he would flourish because he would have another weapon and proper spacing. He is a decent ISO player as well.

So spacing is going to make him stop shooting contested 22 footers? Faulty logic there. No matter the system, coach, or whatever he has sucked and teams have been better with him on the bench rather than him on the floor. He is terrible in any situation.

Kirobaito · 06-27-2013, 01:20 PM

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I was with you until Muhammad. Dude is overhyped at the college level and will be terrible in the NBA.

Hardaway, Dieng, or Noguiera

I'm not the biggest fan of Muhammad, but I was just thinking about the giant swingman holes there would still be left to fill and I don't think Hardaway/Crowder will be enough. Calathes has the size to play a little 2. I think Dieng will be there, but not Noguiera. If Howard wasn't a possibility, Dieng would be my pick and I'm not opposed to it. Just don't know what I'd do about the swingman spots.

escobar317 · 06-27-2013, 01:20 PM

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So spacing is going to make him stop shooting contested 22 footers? Faulty logic there. No matter the system, coach, or whatever he has sucked and teams have been better with him on the bench rather than him on the floor. He is terrible in any situation.

Of course it would. When you have poor floor spacing, it clogs the floor causing you to run into help. He was also responsible for most of the Bucks offensive load.......He HAD to jack up shots. Oh wait he can kick out to Ilyasova. WOO!

mavs777 · 06-27-2013, 01:22 PM

Shabazz will be a decent role player in the NBA, he is a very good catch and shoot shooter (I remember near end of season them showing synergy stats and his ppp was 1.2+ on catch and shoot) and he has the length and size to be a good defender at the 2. Hardaway rarely showed up in big games and benefited from not having attention on him, no thanks. Tim MacMahon says they won't trade marion today

mavs777 · 06-27-2013, 01:25 PM

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Of course it would. When you have poor floor spacing, it clogs the floor causing you to run into help. He was also responsible for most of the Bucks offensive load.......He HAD to jack up shots. Oh wait he can kick out to Ilyasova. WOO!

Really? This is one of the stupider things I have read. How about knowing what a good and bad shoot is and use that. His shot selection is by far the worst in the NBA, he can't shoot at all yet takes stupid jump shot after stupid jumpshot, not to mention being a terrible defender. He helps very bad teams like charlotte and cleveland but hurts about 25 teams severely. Team consistently are much better on offense and on defense when he is on the bench, seems like stupid logic to want him on your team unless it is the only way they get dwight.

escobar317 · 06-27-2013, 01:32 PM

I wish there was someway we could get Asik and Iggy. Carlisle does better with stacked teams who can play D as a collective. Think about it. Before the Pacers brawl, they were heavy contenders. That team had SOLID player but no D12 Caliber players. Our 2011 team was stacked not with huge stars but role players around dirk and terry with Tyson as our anchor. Does anyone else secretly hope we miss out on Dwight? In turn we can get a couple above average players and solid support. Am I crazy?

CanadianMavsFan · 06-27-2013, 01:32 PM

I will not get my hopes up.

I will not get my hopes up.

I will not get my hopes up.

I will...ah screw it please let this free agency work out for the Mavs. Really hope Cuban and Dirk can sell this team to Dwight. Just to watch Dirk finally play beside an elite center (even if we do indeed miss out on Howard) is something I really hope we see next year. We've seen him play at his best beside good center tandems (Dampier/Diop, Chandler/Haywood).

Five-ofan · 06-27-2013, 01:41 PM

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Shabazz will be a decent role player in the NBA, he is a very good catch and shoot shooter (I remember near end of season them showing synergy stats and his ppp was 1.2+ on catch and shoot) and he has the length and size to be a good defender at the 2. Hardaway rarely showed up in big games and benefited from not having attention on him, no thanks. Tim MacMahon says they won't trade marion today

Shabazz will be awful

escobar317 · 06-27-2013, 01:45 PM

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Really? This is one of the stupider things I have read. How about knowing what a good and bad shoot is and use that. His shot selection is by far the worst in the NBA, he can't shoot at all yet takes stupid jump shot after stupid jumpshot, not to mention being a terrible defender. He helps very bad teams like charlotte and cleveland but hurts about 25 teams severely. Team consistently are much better on offense and on defense when he is on the bench, seems like stupid logic to want him on your team unless it is the only way they get dwight.

In think you're missing my point. If he is in a BETTER SITUATION with more OFFENSIVE WEAPONS, BETTER SPACING, and a respectable coach you're telling me he wont change? I know it's a matter of opinion, but I like to think players aren't as dumb as most people put off. He's going out there with 2nd and 3rd string support and is expected to win games. When you watch more than 4 Bucks games, you could actually see his team lacked spacing and he was forced to take crappy shots. Defensively? He's quick and if he could expend some of the energy he was forced to use on offense, it would improve. I have no doubt. To denounce my logic as stupid because you look at stats and not games is kind of juvenile. He's not the answer to our prayers, but I'd much rather have him in the hands of Rick Carlisle and surrounded by High IQ vets.

You honestly think RC couldn't shape him up? Honestly, put your pride aside and ask yourself, "Would he still go 9-22 under Carlisle's system?"