Ron Artest traded to the Rockets - Page 3 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Flacolaco · 07-29-2008, 11:55 PM

At this point I'm not too sure what else we can do.

This sucks. You can't start rebuilding bc of Dirk. What are they supposed to do here exactly?

BGMaverick9 · 07-29-2008, 11:58 PM

The only logical step to me is Josh Smith.

Now for the people who weren't in favor of Josh Smith, now that Artest is completely off the table:
If you're options are Josh Smith, or stick with what you have, what do you do?

sike · 07-30-2008, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

The only logical step to me is Josh Smith.

Now for the people who weren't in favor of Josh Smith, now that Artest is completely off the table:
If you're options are Josh Smith, or stick with what you have, what do you do?

dirno has been rather adamant that Josh Smith is not going anywhere....I tend to agree with his reasoning on the matter.

BGMaverick9 · 07-30-2008, 12:11 AM

then how exactly do they address the issue that they are potentially the 4th best team in the division?

sike · 07-30-2008, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

then how exactly do they address the issue that they are potentially the 4th best team in the division?

They like their team?

BGMaverick9 · 07-30-2008, 12:20 AM

...I hate our Front Office

Evilmav2 · 07-30-2008, 12:22 AM

F-Em... And P-On-Em To...

sike · 07-30-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Evilmav2

F-Em... And P-On-Em To...

that about says it...

chumdawg · 07-30-2008, 12:35 AM

Ooooh, weeeee! The natives are restless!

rabbitproof · 07-30-2008, 12:57 AM

we can embrace flac- i mean, cynicism...

it's not like we were going to win the title anyways, enjoy the ride or something.

seagullstalker35 · 07-30-2008, 01:49 AM

Per Hollinger

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/column...estdeal-080730

yao/artest/battier/mcgrady/alston seems like a hell of a starting lineup to me.

Houston is a really high risk, really high reward team. The high reward being championship, possibly 2 if things work out perfectly. drawback? the risk is huge. Artest is a known nutcase liable to blow at any time, yao and mcgrady are injured a lot, a few unproven guys that need to step up, etc.

still. they could dominate the league if everything falls into place. artest can hold his own against most 4s in the league nowadays and guard the perimeter when battier is out, or he can be used to double team guys like kobe, lebron, paul, etc. yao and mutumbo down low to erase mistakes, battier on the perimeter guarding the hell out of everybody, these guys could easily have the best defense in the league next year.

then on offense they have mcgrady creating for himself and others on the perimeter, yao and artest are 2 legit options in the post, and a slew of shooters (alston, brent barry, battier, head, etc.) all around them to make people pay for any double teams. how do you stop a team like that? great offense to go with suffocating defense.

granted, many things must go right, but if i was a houston fan i'd be salivating at the idea of this team....

NYCdog · 07-30-2008, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by u2sarajevo

Hey dude... long time no see. I've been dying to ask you for years now.... how does it feel to have not won a World Series since you guaranteed they would years ago? I think that was the year the Red Sox won their first (this decade), right?

I couldn't resist.

Wow do I feel welcomed LOL [Insert Crow into mouth for Yankee WS Guarantee] Even worse, IIRC, I made that guarantee in 04' when we were up 3-0 on BOS. Damn...

Now that this is out of the way, I'm focused on my Yankee FO making the moves necessary to win it all this year and let the ole place go out with a bang.....

Me thinks the Mavs FO better do the same real quick. I hear Josh Smith might already have plane ticket for LAX......

GuerillaBlack · 07-30-2008, 01:51 AM

Artest will play his ass off. For one, it's a contract year. Second, he REALLY wants to play for Adelman. He has high praises for him. I'm sure Artest's problems back in Indiana/Sacramento are over.

NYCdog · 07-30-2008, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

...I hate our Front Office

Why?

It could be worse. Try being a Kings fan right now after this trade?

Or even better....Try being a KNICKS FAN.

Dtownsfinest · 07-30-2008, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NYCdog

Why?

It could be worse. Try being a Kings fan right now after this trade?

Or even better....Try being a KNICKS FAN.

Atleast you can tell those teams are trying to get better. I'm not sure if this team is.

NYCdog · 07-30-2008, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

Artest will play his ass off. For one, it's a contract year. Second, he REALLY wants to play for Adelman. He has high praises for him. I'm sure Artest's problems back in Indiana/Sacramento are over.

I second this......Artest is ALL ABOUT MONEY. He couldnt get it this off-season. All he will think about is that FAT contract at the end of next season. That's some serious motivation right there. He'll be on his best behavior and put up career numbers. Rockets made the right move in "renting" him for the season....

But the reason why Rocket fans should be happy is because this team got what was really needed, Attitude. There so-called "Dynamic Duo" is SOFT and lacks that "fiery" intensity. This is where adding Ron Artest into the equation will benefit them the most.....

NYCdog · 07-30-2008, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Atleast you can tell those teams are trying to get better. I'm not sure if this team is.

Wait.....were you paying attention when Isiah was in power?

You can have him if you want.....we'll gladly trade him for Donnie Nelson.

mqywaaah · 07-30-2008, 06:21 AM

We shouldve given them Eddie J and a future draft pick

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-30-2008, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sike

Does this move put serious pressure on the Dallas FO...or will they still rely on Carlisle and Kidd to be enough?

Well Donnie doesn't have any regrets so why would he care about this?

jthig32 · 07-30-2008, 07:23 AM

Man...this hurts.

Even if the Rockets don't stay completely healthy next season I think this makes them a (legitimate) top 4 team in the West. If they were to somehow stay healthy, they're a strong, strong title contender.

We are now staring straight at fourth in the division.

birdsanctuary · 07-30-2008, 08:29 AM

I am angry, I am livid, I am pretty damn pissed off. I am just not in a good place right now. I would feel much better had Artest been sent to the Eastern conference. This is crap.

I would have dealt Josh for Artest...

Why the hellz everybody else in the league getting rip off bargains and we can't get $hit?

Dirkenstien · 07-30-2008, 10:00 AM

lol.

All you can do is lol at our front office. Pathetic. Game over. Move on guys, nothing to see here. We can now embrace two wasted seasons of the inevitable mediocrity we're now destined for.

Sorry, Dirk, our front office failed you. Sorry, fans, our front office failed us.

It was a good run. We had a chance and I guess that's all you can ask for. Now back to the lottery and then to a suckish rebuilding team for 4 or 5 seasons.

Damn, this is the definition of epic failure.

fluid.forty.one · 07-30-2008, 10:07 AM

This just gives the rockets another chance to be great on paper and not so good in real life.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-30-2008, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

This just gives the rockets another chance to be great on paper and not so good in real life.

Yeah but at least it gives them a chance. Their GM is actually putting them in the best position to win. Our GM is eating dumplings in China.

nikeball · 07-30-2008, 10:17 AM

Since the trade cannot go through until August 15, I hope someone else offers something better...or the Kings FO gets ripped by fans and Sacramento media and negates on the offer.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-30-2008, 10:25 AM

hmm...

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NBA front-office sources said that the Lakers were undeniably disappointed not to land Artest, but, as ESPN.com reported earlier this month, L.A. was also reluctant to part with Lamar Odom in a deal for Artest, which virtually assured that the Kings would opt to look for another trade partner. Sacramento ultimately relented on its insistence that any team acquiring Artest absorb the contract of forward Kenny Thomas as well, dropping that condition and agreeing to Houston's offer because the Kings are essentially coming away with two first-round picks for the unpredictable Artest.

sike · 07-30-2008, 11:22 AM

The only good thing about this deal is that the Lakers are upset. Screw that, I'm upset!

Caseman · 07-30-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

Move over kids.

The new BIG 3 is about to take over this.

There's only gonna be one not injured by the All-Star break.

BGMaverick9 · 07-30-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

The only good thing about this deal is that the Lakers are upset. Screw that, I'm upset!

Yeah, but they can just move down their list and find someone. I'd much rather be in the Lakers' offseason spot vs. ours.

purplefrog · 07-30-2008, 12:01 PM

Cuban flirts with the Cubs and Donnie continues his love affair with the Chinese national team while other FOs are out working their a$$ off to improve their chances at winning a championship. This makes me sick. Mark/Donnie better have more than "we love out team" and "well we got rid of Avery" by the dawn of training camp. I'm rapidly losing faith in the competency/motivation of our execs.

sike · 07-30-2008, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Yeah, but they can just move down their list and find someone. I'd much rather be in the Lakers' offseason spot vs. ours.

no doubt.

sike · 07-30-2008, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Mark/Donnie better have more than "we love out team" and "well we got rid of Avery" by the dawn of training camp. I'm rapidly losing faith in the competency/motivation of our execs.

Wait and see just doesn't feel good right now.

Underdog · 07-30-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

Wait and see just doesn't feel good right now.

Yeah, something about "wait and see" doesn't exactly gel with the "win now" mantra we've been hearing ever since the Kidd trade...

BGMaverick9 · 07-30-2008, 12:07 PM

They'll have a full off-season's worth of quotes that can easily be thrown right in their face to say, "where the hell have you been, or where are the results you promised?" if nothing happens.

sike · 07-30-2008, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Yeah, something about "wait and see" doesn't exactly gel with the "win now" mantra we've been hearing ever since the Kidd trade...

They simply HAVE to make a move is they want us to continue to take them seriously and consider them contenders.

Underdog · 07-30-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

They simply HAVE to make a move is they want us to continue to take them seriously and consider them contenders.

Exactly...

(especially if they want me to keep shelling out my hard-earned cash to see them at the AAC instead of on TV...)

BGMaverick9 · 07-30-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

They simply HAVE to make a move is they want us to continue to take them seriously and consider them contenders.

Or just in simple terms of taking them at their word or just shrug off anything they tell us.

GermanDunk · 07-30-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

I think it's time to let Donnie go.

As a not-with-the-NBA-grown-upper, i was and i am still astonished, that a Mavs manager ist working as coach for a direct competitor.

GuerillaBlack · 07-30-2008, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nikeball

Since the trade cannot go through until August 15, I hope someone else offers something better...or the Kings FO gets ripped by fans and Sacramento media and negates on the offer.

No, it's a done deal. Morey isn't stupid. They just have to wait until the 14th of August to officially announce it. Artest was on a Sacramento radio show last night saying how great it would be to retire in Houston and carefully not trying to give it away.

Go to page two, or just search Artest. It's the "Ron Artest Traded to Houston": http://cbs13.com/video/

horse900703 · 07-30-2008, 01:10 PM

good trade for the rockets!!!!
Yao, t-mac, and artest....... god~ thats goin2 be a dream team!!