01-08-2009, 09:27 AM
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Larry Flynt wants his bailout bucks.
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01-08-2009, 10:38 AM
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You have to admit though... he's got a point. The Big 3 execs whored themselves out last month in front of Congress (not to mention the World population). What's the difference?
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01-08-2009, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by u2sarajevo
You have to admit though... he's got a point. The Big 3 execs whored themselves out last month in front of Congress (not to mention the World population). What's the difference?
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He usually makes a pretty good point (like proving that being able to see a woman's cervix can sell magazines...)
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01-08-2009, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by u2sarajevo
You have to admit though... he's got a point. The Big 3 execs whored themselves out last month in front of Congress (not to mention the World population). What's the difference?
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Flynt in particular and the porn industry in general are not in any financial trouble. They are actually providing their customers with products and making a profit in the meantime. In other words, they're capable and competent business managers. In order to get money from Paulson, one must first demonstrate gross incompetence.
That's the difference.
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01-08-2009, 10:48 AM
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I say let them go bankrupt so that their good assets can be purchased by others at bargain bin prices. Like what they should have done for the auto companies.
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01-08-2009, 10:48 AM
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lol. Point well taken. I don't approve of his industry, but I thought he and that other guys bit was rather funny.
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01-08-2009, 11:17 AM
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lol. Point well taken.
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The funny thing is, I'm actually kind of serious. We could argue about whether powers-that-be should be picking and choosing industry winners and what their criteria should be for picking and choosing those industries if they must -- if popular demand for an industry's products and services is part of the criteria than how do we rule out the porn-providers off the bat?
but it's all moot because the porn industry is doing just fine, at least according to the earlier article.
In order to get money a company must be a failure. Bigger failure --> more money. This is intrinsic to the bailout plans. Of course it is! Why would the government need to bail someone out if they weren't in trouble?
This is where I think 'how' we think about economics is as important as 'what' we think -- do we think of the central question of economics is people working more and spending more and lending more and stock prices going up, etc..., etc....or do we think of the central question of economics is the efficient allocation of resources?
The bailout plans are certainly about keeping people working and keeping people spending and such, but it's hardly an efficient allocation of resources to take money from those who don't squander it and give it t those who do. (The Parable of the Tenants comes to mind)
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01-08-2009, 02:10 PM
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silly me. I thought that the porn industry was itself a "stimulus program"....
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01-08-2009, 02:20 PM
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can we get another rimshot?
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01-08-2009, 03:07 PM
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Let's see, I have a Chevy, Dodge, Jeep and a Toyota...3 of which are paid for, one of which is getting close.
Never again will I buy a car without paying for it cash.
Why are people worried...if the automakers go down, some new ones will step in...It's all about Change.
Isn't free market all about letting companies who make good decisions survive, letting consumers decide what is actually good or not?
I'm hearing today that the issues with the big three is it's average wage...something like $78 per hour per employee...while companies like Toyota are down around $48 per hour.
Unions are forgetting, that although it's great to increase the income of your members...if you push too hard, you will cause the company to go out of business and essentially cost your members their jobs.
I am all for breaking up the unions!!!
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I've got to agree! The UAW is THE reason that GM is unprofitable, in my opinion. The same thing could be said about the U.S. Steel industry 20 years ago as well, and 75% of the U.S. Steel companies have since either been bought by competitors or have declared bankruptcy - which is what should happen to Ford and GM.
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01-08-2009, 04:54 PM
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Now Obama wants Congress to delay the FCC from switching to digital broadcast...We have to bail out tv viewers?
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President-elect Barack Obama's transition team today asked key members of Congress to consider delaying the nation's switch to digital television scheduled for Feb. 17, saying there is "insufficient support" for the problems consumers will experience during the shut-off of analog signals.
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01-08-2009, 05:33 PM
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He usually makes a pretty good point (like proving that being able to see a woman's cervix can sell magazines...)
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Damnit Under !
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01-10-2009, 11:39 PM
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01-10-2009, 11:40 PM
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"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -Thomas Jefferson
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01-10-2009, 11:50 PM
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"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -Thomas Jefferson
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01-10-2009, 11:58 PM
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"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -Thomas Jefferson
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01-11-2009, 08:52 AM
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I've long thought that the Federal Government would crumble when the Social Security Ponzi Scheme fell apart, but I'm beginning to think it won't make it that far.
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01-16-2009, 10:12 PM
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"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -Thomas Jefferson
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01-20-2009, 11:50 PM
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that is very funny, 92BDad
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01-21-2009, 01:52 PM
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Once in a while I get lucky...as long as I stay away from my opnion, I can find a few amusing things...
Get my opinion button pushed and I pretty much turn into a babbling idiot...but then again, the other side is not too much different, in terms of being babbling idiots!!!
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02-25-2009, 03:10 PM
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02-25-2009, 03:44 PM
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that one's a good 'un.
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