02-09-2010, 11:29 AM
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This one's even worse from Terry O'Neill:
"I am blown away at the celebration of the violence against women in it," she said. "That's what comes across to me even more strongly than the anti-abortion message. I myself am a survivor of domestic violence, and I don't find it charming. I think CBS should be ashamed of itself."
fake tackling = celebration of violence against women
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02-09-2010, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FreshJive
This one's even worse from Terry O'Neill:
"I am blown away at the celebration of the violence against women in it," she said. "That's what comes across to me even more strongly than the anti-abortion message. I myself am a survivor of domestic violence, and I don't find it charming. I think CBS should be ashamed of itself."
fake tackling = celebration of violence against women
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Domestic violence? Some people just take themselves way too seriously.
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02-09-2010, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by kg_veteran
Domestic violence? Some people just take themselves way too seriously.
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This was actually the direction I was initially headed with my first post on the subject yesterday....the extent to which the Terry o'Neill's & NOW's of the world are just completely unhinged. They're disconnected from reality...they're pathologically incapable of viewing women as anything other than victims in need of abortions and men as rapists and they interpret everything they see through this filter.
She says it herself:
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I myself am a survivor of domestic violence...
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It's like she projects her own experiences onto healthy relationships and healthy sentiments.
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02-09-2010, 12:35 PM
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and of course...
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That's what comes across to me even more strongly than the anti-abortion message
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They're not pro-choice, they're abortion lovers.
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02-09-2010, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by alexamenos
It's like she projects her own experiences onto healthy relationships and healthy sentiments.
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Bingo.
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02-09-2010, 08:32 PM
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I wonder if that commercial got scaled back due to the controversy. I don't know one way or another, but I am curious about that.
If that was the commercial they were planning on running all along, then I think the biggest irony of the whole deal was the fact that no one would have known what the commercial was really advertising if the pro-choice activists hadn't made a big fuss. Because the commercial itself was completely innocuous. By trying to keep the Tebows from getting a platform, they failed to do so and ultimately gave them a megaphone to go along with that platform.
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02-10-2010, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by FINtastic
If that was the commercial they were planning on running all along, then I think the biggest irony of the whole deal was the fact that no one would have known what the commercial was really advertising if the pro-choice activists hadn't made a big fuss.
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I very seriously doubt that the NOWs ever saw the commercial -- the second they heard "Focus on the Family" and "Tebow" they went into their fit of hysteria.
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02-10-2010, 02:42 PM
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02-10-2010, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ribosoma
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Planned Parenthood's Mission Statement:
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This is precisely the aim of Eugenics. Its first object is to check the birth-rate of the Unfit, instead of allowing them to come into being...Sir Francis Galton
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02-27-2010, 02:14 AM
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so here's the thing.
i don't agree with you "conservatives" on whether abortion should be legal or not. never will. no amount of rhetoric on your side will ever convince me that the government should be allowed to decide what a woman does to her own body.
but that aside: the problem I have with you so-called "conservatives" is this notion that you're all about small government, letting the states decide...unless, of course, that isn't aligned with your own personal belief system.
True "conservatism" is all about a small federal government, about letting the states decide everything that's not in the constitution. (Don't get me started on all the reasons why something written 200+ years ago might not be relevant today.) If so, then fine--let the states make their own laws. Then let everyone with a brain move to places that value personal liberties and take care of their neighbors; and everyone with half a brain (or less) can move to Texas.
Other than the Mavs, there ain't a god damn thing I miss about that god forsaken state.
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02-27-2010, 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bobatundi
so here's the thing.
i don't agree with you "conservatives" on whether abortion should be legal or not. never will. no amount of rhetoric on your side will ever convince me that the government should be allowed to decide what a woman does to her own body.
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It's not her own body she's killing.
And the federal government is there to protect the rights to life, liberty, etc. However stale the paper might be that that's written on, and however little the federal government should be doing, it should be doing that.
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02-27-2010, 04:45 AM
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Conservatives equate abortion with murder; liberals equate abortion with tattoos and piercings.
More or less.
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02-27-2010, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by bobatundi
so here's the thing.
i don't agree with you "conservatives" on whether abortion should be legal or not. never will. no amount of rhetoric on your side will ever convince me that the government should be allowed to decide what a woman does to her own body.
but that aside: the problem I have with you so-called "conservatives" is this notion that you're all about small government, letting the states decide...unless, of course, that isn't aligned with your own personal belief system.
True "conservatism" is all about a small federal government, about letting the states decide everything that's not in the constitution. (Don't get me started on all the reasons why something written 200+ years ago might not be relevant today.) If so, then fine--let the states make their own laws. Then let everyone with a brain move to places that value personal liberties and take care of their neighbors; and everyone with half a brain (or less) can move to Texas.
Other than the Mavs, there ain't a god damn thing I miss about that god forsaken state.
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Whatever. I'm not adamantly opposed to abortion but if you are not able to see some shades of gray in allowing a woman to terminate an 9 month old baby then you are much,much more closed minded than anyone in texas is. I know you'll say "huff,huff, the government doesn't allow women to do this" which completely goes against your assertion that the guvment shouldn't be allowed to enact any laws with respect to a womans body. But I expect you'll casually blow that off because it's not on your political side of the fence.
What is sad is that you somehow don't realize that an onorous guvment (say CA or NY) trods all over peoples personal liberties everyday and will continue and continue to do so, while the folks in smaller government states will continue to have more freedom. Especially freedom from folks like yourself trying to force their political views down their throats.
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02-27-2010, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by bobatundi
Other than the Mavs, there ain't a god damn thing I miss about that god forsaken state.
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Strange turn of phrase here actually, since I'm quite sure that the states you are holding up as models are much,much more god-forsaken than texas.
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02-27-2010, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
Strange turn of phrase here actually, since I'm quite sure that the states you are holding up as models are much,much more god-forsaken than texas.
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it's called sarcasm. there's no such thing as god.
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02-27-2010, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
Whatever. I'm not adamantly opposed to abortion but if you are not able to see some shades of gray in allowing a woman to terminate an 9 month old baby then you are much,much more closed minded than anyone in texas is. I know you'll say "huff,huff, the government doesn't allow women to do this" which completely goes against your assertion that the guvment shouldn't be allowed to enact any laws with respect to a womans body. But I expect you'll casually blow that off because it's not on your political side of the fence.
What is sad is that you somehow don't realize that an onorous guvment (say CA or NY) trods all over peoples personal liberties everyday and will continue and continue to do so, while the folks in smaller government states will continue to have more freedom. Especially freedom from folks like yourself trying to force their political views down their throats.
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I lived in Texas for ten years, and chose to move to New York. You say "onorous," I say "education."
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02-27-2010, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by bobatundi
the problem I have with you so-called "conservatives" is this notion that you're all about small government, letting the states decide...unless, of course, that isn't aligned with your own personal belief system.
True "conservatism" is all about a small federal government, about letting the states decide everything that's not in the constitution. (Don't get me started on all the reasons why something written 200+ years ago might not be relevant today.) If so, then fine--let the states make their own laws.
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FWIW...the idea that abortion isn't the Federal Government's business and that states should make the laws in this regard is a very, very common position in conservative and anti-abortion circles. I submit your "problem" here is as much a matter of ignorance on your part as it is alleged hypocrisy on the part of conservatives.
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02-27-2010, 03:28 PM
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it's called sarcasm. there's no such thing as god.
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Ah gotcha.
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03-01-2010, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
Whatever. I'm not adamantly opposed to abortion but if you are not able to see some shades of gray in allowing a woman to terminate an 9 month old baby then you are much,much more closed minded than anyone in texas is. I know you'll say "huff,huff, the government doesn't allow women to do this" which completely goes against your assertion that the guvment shouldn't be allowed to enact any laws with respect to a womans body. But I expect you'll casually blow that off because it's not on your political side of the fence.
What is sad is that you somehow don't realize that an onorous guvment (say CA or NY) trods all over peoples personal liberties everyday and will continue and continue to do so, while the folks in smaller government states will continue to have more freedom. Especially freedom from folks like yourself trying to force their political views down their throats.
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wow!! Dude (of all people) pulling out the shades of gray analysis. I like it!
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03-09-2010, 04:43 PM
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Killing baby girls all over the world....
The worldwide war on baby girls
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Until the 1980s people in poor countries could do little about this preference: before birth, nature took its course. But in that decade, ultrasound scanning and other methods of detecting the sex of a child before birth began to make their appearance. These technologies changed everything. Doctors in India started advertising ultrasound scans with the slogan “Pay 5,000 rupees ($110) today and save 50,000 rupees tomorrow” (the saving was on the cost of a daughter’s dowry). Parents who wanted a son, but balked at killing baby daughters, chose abortion in their millions.
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So billions of baby soon-to-be-girls are being killed because their parents prefer fetuses with penises....
....but that's momma's choice, ain't it?
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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin
All it will take is a little thought policing, alexamenos ("You only go to jail if your motivation was X.") and we will be able to keep all our ethical values lined up nicely.
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AZ attempts to out law eugenics...
And Planned Parenthood is pissed.
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