GDT: Cowboys (12-1) vs. Eagles (5-8) - Page 3 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

chumdawg · 12-16-2007, 07:22 PM

The Cowboys were flat awful today. Pitiful.

ames7 · 12-16-2007, 07:23 PM

Well, this has sucked mightily. Just pray all the injuries are not too serious.

Kirobaito · 12-16-2007, 07:24 PM

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Well, this has sucked mightily. Just pray all the injuries are not too serious.

That pains me more than the loss. Gurode, Canty, Watkins all go down, and the first two maybe seriously.

Bookit · 12-16-2007, 07:28 PM

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That pains me more than the loss. Gurode, Canty, Watkins all go down, and the first two maybe seriously.

Don't forget about Romo's thumb.

alby · 12-16-2007, 07:32 PM

I just want Jessica Simpson to go down.

ames7 · 12-16-2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bookit

Don't forget about Romo's thumb.

Definitely I know he said he was fine, but he really didn't look right. Man, that sucks. We'd been so lucky w/injuries for a while now...

alby · 12-16-2007, 07:41 PM

and now we actually have to play the last two games to gain home field advantage

u2sarajevo · 12-16-2007, 07:56 PM

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I just want Jessica Simpson to go down.

So does Romo?

chumdawg · 12-16-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by u2sarajevo

So does Romo?

Clever.

dude1394 · 12-16-2007, 08:14 PM

Tony Romo has struck out....

It was pretty obvious that he was pretty off today, a QB change would have helped imo.

Jason Garrett sure falls out of love with the running game quickly. QB banged up, let's keep throwing it. Hmmm....

As they say, now they probably have to win out.

Bookit · 12-16-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Tony Romo has struck out....

It was pretty obvious that he was pretty off today, a QB change would have helped imo.

Jason Garrett sure falls out of love with the running game quickly. QB banged up, let's keep throwing it. Hmmm....

As they say, now they probably have to win out.

They weren't going to get anywhere running the ball. The pass usually sets up the run anyway with this team. Jason Garrett probably looked at film and concluded the team is best when Romo is slinging it around with a few draws mixed in. Too bad Romo couldn't sling it around today.

LonghornDub · 12-16-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bookit

They weren't going to get anywhere running the ball. The pass usually sets up the run anyway with this team. Jason Garrett probably looked at film and concluded the team is best when Romo is slinging it around with a few draws mixed in. Too bad Romo couldn't sling it around today.

That's funny, cause Barber was averaging about 5 a carry. If we had run more, we woulda been in more 3rd and 2's at the end rather than 3rd and 18's.

Flacolaco · 12-16-2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by u2sarajevo

So does Romo?

Well done.

dude1394 · 12-16-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bookit

They weren't going to get anywhere running the ball. The pass usually sets up the run anyway with this team. Jason Garrett probably looked at film and concluded the team is best when Romo is slinging it around with a few draws mixed in. Too bad Romo couldn't sling it around today.

As prodigy says...they could have gotten closer to the first down markers. Jason DOES have a quick trigger on the running game. In this case it didn't serve him well at all because even without the thumb tony was off all day.

antoinewalker · 12-16-2007, 09:00 PM

jessica simpson is so hot.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 12-16-2007, 09:09 PM

Jessica Simpson = banned from Texas Stadium

Bookit · 12-16-2007, 09:15 PM

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That's funny, cause Barber was averaging about 5 a carry. If we had run more, we woulda been in more 3rd and 2's at the end rather than 3rd and 18's.

Ok, but Jason was running both Barber and Julius. Julius wasn't getting it done most of the time and Barber is more of a weapon coming out of the backfield on dumpoffs. Credit the Philly defense and Romo stinking it up. The running game is mostly effective with a lead with the Cowboys most of the time.

LonghornDub · 12-16-2007, 09:31 PM

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Ok, but Jason was running both Barber and Julius. Julius wasn't getting it done most of the time and Barber is more of a weapon coming out of the backfield on dumpoffs. Credit the Philly defense and Romo stinking it up. The running game is mostly effective with a lead with the Cowboys most of the time.

That's because Julius sucks. But I'm not sure where you got the idea that Barber is more of a weapon coming out of the backfield on dumpoffs. Barber is a bruiser and it's one of the best downhill runners in the NFL. He has the 4th or 5th best YPC average in the entire league this year.

ShaggyDirk · 12-16-2007, 11:58 PM

humble pie is always good, but I think Romo was looking forward too....

Flacolaco · 12-17-2007, 12:59 AM

6 points. wow. I just did not see that coming.

quiet riot act · 12-17-2007, 04:34 AM

Do you think Roy Williams will get a suspension for the horse collar on Mcnabb??
and if so , can we as fans rent Sean Taylor's house in Miami for Roy to stay in and hope for the same results

Bookit · 12-17-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by quiet riot act

Do you think Roy Williams will get a suspension for the horse collar on Mcnabb??
and if so , can we as fans rent Sean Taylor's house in Miami for Roy to stay in and hope for the same results

Poor

alexamenos · 12-17-2007, 10:55 AM

I too think the running game kinda blows.....barber can pick up some yards when one safety is running with owens and a linebacker is sniffing Witten, but that's about it.

and JJ....run's like he's afraid someone might hit him.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 12-17-2007, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by quiet riot act

Do you think Roy Williams will get a suspension for the horse collar on Mcnabb??
and if so , can we as fans rent Sean Taylor's house in Miami for Roy to stay in and hope for the same results

Boo this man. :thumbs down: :thumbs down:

Jack.Kerr · 12-17-2007, 12:35 PM

Any word yet on Girode?

horse900703 · 12-17-2007, 05:19 PM

shit cowboys lost~~~

Male30Dan · 12-17-2007, 07:09 PM

That was about the worst possible game I could have went to. I had GREAT seats where I could have hit the guys in wheel chairs with popcorn right by the endzone and they NEVER do anything in it. Ugh. Fing Simpson. She actually wears his PINK jersey too.

Yup... Likely we must win-out now seeing as how only the tie breaker currently keeps us in the "home-field throughout" driver seat.

Just a TERRIBLE game from Romo, before and after the thumb injury. Oh, and Garrett's worst play calling BY FAR. Why we called a pass on Romo's first pick was just beyond me. RUN THE DAMN BALL, WE HAVE MARION FOR THESE SITUATIONS! Philly's safeties and corners were just ready to jump the pass.

Male30Dan · 12-17-2007, 07:15 PM

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Any word yet on GUrode?

Here you go...

On Gurode:
"The knee's a little sore, but I think I feel alright right now," Gurode said. "Just a little pain, not too bad."

On Canty:
"My status is I'll be ready to go on next Saturday," Canty said.

On Watkins:
Team doctors will also reevaluate his condition Monday morning, which could include an MRI if necessary, but Jones termed the injury "an old-fashioned ankle sprain." Doctors didn't think the sprain was that serious.

On Fasano:
Fasano will reevaluated on Monday, but doctors didn't seem to think he would miss a significant amount of time.

Flacolaco · 12-17-2007, 08:09 PM

They're all fine. Nothing to worry about, though the Iggles sure did do a good job of banging them up.

alby · 12-17-2007, 08:30 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3158901

IRVING, Texas -- Sore-thumbed quarterback Tony Romo is going to be OK and the Dallas Cowboys still are tied for the NFC's best record, with the inside track for home-field advantage throughout the NFC playoffs.

So it wasn't exactly doomsday Monday for the Cowboys (12-2) when they dealt with defeat for the first time in two months. Things could have definitely been much worse.
A source told ESPN's Ed Werder that Romo underwent an MRI on Monday to determine the severity of the injury to his right thumb. The test revealed that Romo suffered a contusion and that while it will remain painful and require time to heal, he should play Saturday night.

But with two games left in the regular season before a home playoff game, Dallas obviously isn't playing its best football.

While the 10-6 loss Sunday to Philadelphia was the first for the Cowboys since mid-October against still-undefeated New England, it was their second poor performance in a row. They had struggled throughout a week earlier at Detroit before finally taking the lead with 18 seconds remaining.

"It puts your nose back to the grindstone, it shows you you're not invincible," coach Wade Phillips said Monday. "It's a different feeling for us, and we don't want to lose again."

At least Phillips knows Romo is going to be "all right." Romo's throwing hand got banged against Philadelphia, but he didn't miss a play. The coach also was encouraged with how center Andre Gurode was walking around on his injured left knee, and said defensive end Chris Canty's left knee was fine.

Nothing can keep them from a home playoff game the second week in January, but the Cowboys want to get back in synch before the postseason. They don't need another December swoon to take away the momentum of their franchise-best start this season.

Since their last playoff victory following the 1996 season, the Cowboys haven't had a winning record for regular-season games played in December and early January. They are 16-29 in such games, plus four playoff losses.

"I wasn't even a history major in college, so I don't worry about that history stuff," Terrell Owens said after Sunday's game. "There's no doubt in this locker room. ... There's no reason for a lack of confidence, not at this stage of the game, anyway."

Even when losing Sunday, the Cowboys clinched a first-round bye in the playoffs because Seattle lost. Dallas and Green Bay are tied for the NFC's best record, but the Cowboys own the tiebreaker for beating the Packers last month.

It's just that Dallas struggled late in that Nov. 29 showdown against the Packers, and in the two games since.

"It's frustrating right now. This is the part of the season that is going to be an emotional letdown," Romo said after the Eagles game. "We still have a chance to do what we're trying to do."

Players got a day off because the Cowboys play Saturday night at Carolina. Phillips already knew what he was going to tell the team when they got back together Tuesday.

"The sky isn't falling because of one game," he said. "But we know we've got to point toward the playoffs and a home game."

What about his message for Romo, who was 13-of-36 for 214 yards with three interceptions? Romo had his team record streak of 17 straight games with a TD pass snapped and Dallas failed to score a touchdown for the first time since November 2004.

"Just dust yourself off and come back," Phillips said.

Romo had X-rays Sunday that were negative, and Phillips said there was only some swelling Monday.
A source told ESPN that the team won't be able to determine Romo's practice schedule until the thumb is re-evaluated on Tuesday.
A member of the coaching staff told Werder that the game plan for Carolina is being prepared with the expectation that Romo will start.

Phillips was still waiting to hear the results of an MRI on Gurode, but said "he is walking around. It's a little encouraging as far as him being able to walk around and so forth." Canty was also knocked out of the game after hurting his left knee, but didn't need an MRI.

Backup cornerback Pat Watkins (sprained left ankle) and tight end Anthony Fasano (concussion) were questionable.

Receiver Terry Glenn, inactive Sunday after returning to practice last week, will practice again this week and could play for the first time since two operations on his right knee before the season.

"Hopefully will be a nice word," Phillips said. "Hopefully he could play some, play a little more the next week and be ready to go for the playoffs."
The Cowboys will be without safety Roy Williams against Carolina. Williams was suspended without pay for one game Monday by the NFL after his third illegal "horse collar" tackle of the season.

Williams, whose use of the tactic led to the league passing a rule making it a 15-yard penalty, did it against Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb in Sunday's 10-6 loss.

Grabbing the inside collar of the back of the shoulder pads or jersey, or the inside collar of the side of the shoulder pads or jersey, and immediately pulling down a runner brings a 15-yard personal foul.
"He's real strong, especially with his hands. You go to your strength, so he's going to grab somebody with his hands," Phillips said Monday, before the punishment was announced. "And the way it is now, they tape those jerseys in the back, so you can't grab them, you can't hold on to them. The only thing you can grab is something behind him. And he's coming from behind, he has to learn to lay out. But what he's used to doing is grabbing them, because he's so strong with his hands. He hasn't been able to break that habit, obviously."

This was the fourth violation of the rule by Williams in the past two seasons. Williams was fined $12,500 for such a tackle against Chicago on Sept. 23, and $15,000 for the same violation against Buffalo on Oct. 8. He received a $10,000 fine for a "horse collar" tackle against the New York Giants on Oct. 23, 2006.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

alby · 12-17-2007, 08:30 PM

Roy is suspended

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

quiet riot act · 12-18-2007, 07:18 AM

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Roy is suspended

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

step one .....check
now lets rent sean taylors house for him and hope for the same results

MavsX · 12-18-2007, 11:05 AM

yeah roy is an idiot. He always does that move. what do you expect.

FINtastic · 12-18-2007, 02:02 PM

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Roy is suspended

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS

Hopefully he pulls that move in the last game of the season and gets suspended for the playoffs. I don't know what he brings to the team anymore. He sucks at pass coverage and he doesn't remember how to tackle.

MavsX · 12-18-2007, 03:14 PM

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Hopefully he pulls that move in the last game of the season and gets suspended for the playoffs. I don't know what he brings to the team anymore. He sucks at pass coverage and he doesn't remember how to tackle.

he always hits, and then just bounces off the guy. He needs to wrap up! He needs to put his head across the chest and wrap the guy up.

MavsX · 12-18-2007, 03:25 PM

UPDATE: Chris Mortensen reports that Commissioner Roger Goodell will hear Williams' appeal of the suspension on Tuesday.

alby · 12-18-2007, 09:15 PM

Williams will play and make the pro bowl as well.

alby · 12-19-2007, 08:30 PM

Williams lost the appeal. He will still be suspended.

Underdog · 12-20-2007, 10:07 AM

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Williams lost the appeal. He will still be suspended.

Wouldn't it be deliciously ironic if the Cowboys' secondary played their best game of the season this week?

alby · 12-20-2007, 02:08 PM

With Keith Davis back there? I wouldn't be surprised. But, the loss of Watkins is a significant loss IMHO.