phx vs minny

[mcsluggo]

I'm sure the suns would't complain too loudly if they won 94% of their NEXT 18 games also.

[jacktruth]

Originally Posted by DarenG

Great point. Any team with those stats be the end of a game is going to get a win more times then not. KG was just a monster last night and hit everything. It was one of those nights where nobody was going to stop him. It didn't matter what team he was playing or who was guarding him. That's what is great about the NBA. No matter how good of a team you are, you can lose on even given night if one of your stars goes crazy.

I just don't understand this argument. You are right any team with those stats at the end of a game is going to get a win, yet Phoenix did not. There is something wrong with that! I mean they let Minny shoot 60% from the field! How many of those games are you going to win? I believe the death blow in the playoffs last year is when Dirk scored 50 on them. I think it is the very thing that Phoenix needs to worry about - stopping people when it counts.

[Dirkenstien]

'Bout time

[chumdawg]

The only trouble there, jacktruth, is that you can keep going in circles forever with that kind of reasoning. Which is to say: a stop for one team is just as good as a stop for the other, is it not? What Phoenix concentrates on is preventing the other team from getting stops.

A stop not made, a stop allowed...what's the difference?

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by Grammaton Cleric

It takes more than luck to win 17 straight.

What does it take to win 17 straight and still not be 1st place in the conference?

[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by chumdawg

A stop not made, a stop allowed...what's the difference?

You sound like someone that's never watched a game.

If this point were sound, then the terms offensive-minded teams, defensive-minded teams, fast teams, slow teams, etc. would be meaningless.

I'm not going to argue with you about this further because I know that's not your real position on the issue; instead you're just saying that because you like picking on people.

[sike]

Originally Posted by ProdigyDub

What does it take to win 17 straight and still not be 1st place in the conference?

bad luck!

[chumdawg]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

You sound like someone that's never watched a game.

If this point were sound, then the terms offensive-minded teams, defensive-minded teams, fast teams, slow teams, etc. would be meaningless.

I'm not going to argue with you about this further because I know that's not your real position on the issue; instead you're just saying that because you like picking on people.

Who's picking on who?

Of course those terms have meaning. What is not at all certain is what the implications are when teams of varying designs meet.

If you think you have all the answers for that, go ahead and put them forward. You can put a whole lot of analysts out of business with one fell swoop.

[DarenG]

Originally Posted by jacktruth

I just don't understand this argument. You are right any team with those stats at the end of a game is going to get a win, yet Phoenix did not. There is something wrong with that! I mean they let Minny shoot 60% from the field! How many of those games are you going to win? I believe the death blow in the playoffs last year is when Dirk scored 50 on them. I think it is the very thing that Phoenix needs to worry about - stopping people when it counts.

What don't you get? The point was that more often then not the other team won't shoot 60% and won't be able to match your offensive numbers. They are still on average holding teams to 45%. That will get it done most nights as indicated by their record. So most nights they are getting it done and stopping people when it counts. They struggle only in game when it comes down to the last shot (a la our boy Dirk). How often does that really happen though? Once a month...maybe. Once a series.

[Grammaton Cleric]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

And it takes more than luck to be the 1st place team in the league, esp after someone just got off a 17 game winning streak.

I think that may have something to do with the Mavs only losing what - 2 games? during that entire streak.

Besides, I never said that the Mavs were lucky.

[Grammaton Cleric]

Originally Posted by sike

what is the point here? The suns are a better than 100% lucky team? because that is just dumb.

I don't think anyone here isn't saying the Suns aren't a top 3 team...and most would say top 2.

No, but the streak was always about, "easy schedule" this and "star player hurt" that.

I mean SEVENTEEN in a row?

I was surreal while it lasted.

[Grammaton Cleric]

Originally Posted by jacktruth

I just don't understand this argument. You are right any team with those stats at the end of a game is going to get a win, yet Phoenix did not. There is something wrong with that! I mean they let Minny shoot 60% from the field! How many of those games are you going to win? I believe the death blow in the playoffs last year is when Dirk scored 50 on them. I think it is the very thing that Phoenix needs to worry about - stopping people when it counts.

1. This game didn't "count".

2. The Suns still allow just over 45 percent shooting for the season so far, which is good enough for 12th in the league. The T-Wolves 60 percent has to be viewed as an aberration until they start making it a habit.

[Flacolaco]

The Suns trolling is only going get worse as we go along isnt it?

[Grammaton Cleric]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

The Suns trolling is only going get worse as we go along isnt it?

There you go again with that word.

This is called a discussion.

I'm not a troll and I resent the implication. If you don't want people to talk about the Suns, then don't make threads about them or their games.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

The Suns trolling is only going get worse as we go along isnt it?

Yes unfortunately.