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Old 11-11-2008, 07:46 PM   #81
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That caused us to panic and trade for jason kidd.
For this reason alone I hope we beat the hell out of the Lakers. I blame them and their shady deals for that knee-jerk reaction and all the despair in Mavs land.
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we are not in the crappy position we are today because of the Laker deal or the Kidd deal.
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Old 11-11-2008, 07:53 PM   #83
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I am just hoping it won't be a 62 by the end of three if you know what I mean.

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we are not in the crappy position we are today because of the Laker deal or the Kidd deal.

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There are still people here that can't see the Mavs panicked. Above all else the Mavs can rebuild with 1st round pics. They would have use the mid level on someone othere than Diop. Devin probably could have been traded for a first round pick too. Kidd is a very good player that provides no future.
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There are still people here that can't see the Mavs panicked. Above all else the Mavs can rebuild with 1st round pics. They would have use the mid level on someone othere than Diop. Devin probably could have been traded for a first round pick too. Kidd is a very good player that provides no future.
Exactly. Kidd is good for the present and we are talking about struggling in the present. Our struggles, at this moment, have nothing to do with him.
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we are not in the crappy position we are today because of the Laker deal or the Kidd deal.
I disagree, the fact that people want to put themselves in a state denial doesn't make their warped perspective true. It was in fact a knee-jerk reaction, and everyone bought in that it would make the team better. It did not... I can't overstate that enough. It did not do the one thing we intended the trade to do. We didn't improve our record, we didn't advance any further in the playoffs, as a result we didn't win the championship, and we certainly didn't position ourselves for any significant rebuilding (unless your hoping Green and Bass turn into all-stars). The tragedy of it all is the team was just fine the way it was constructed with the exception of a coaching change and a legimate two guard, and even despite those flaws we were able to win 67 games and make a finals appearance.

So yes, I still blame this trade for everything wrong with the team and if you want to extend this thought I blame the Lakers for convincing our once brilliant front office that it was in any sense a good idea. If we make it to the finals this year then everyone can celebrate the benefits of the trade... but until then how about the 90% of the fans who supported this trade just admit they were wrong and Mavericks fans can be bitter about the gloomy future of the franchise together?
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Their loss in the NBA finals was disheartening, but it was the way the Los Angeles Lakers went out -- a 39-point loss in Game 6 -- that was the lingering image of their otherwise successful postseason run.


This season, it's Los Angeles that's delivering the blowouts.

With five wins by an average of 22.4 points under their belt, the Lakers will try to start 6-0 for the first time since 2001-02 -- the year they won their last title -- when they begin a two-night, two-game road trip against the Dallas Mavericks.

Los Angeles's main addition to its Western Conference champion roster was Andrew Bynum, the 21-year-old center who missed the last half of the 2007-08 season and the playoffs with a knee injury. Averaging 9.2 points and 8.8 rebounds, Bynum is still working his way back into game shape, but the Lakers haven't missed a beat.

Four of their five wins have come by at least 18 points, including a 111-82 thumping of Houston on Sunday. Los Angeles fell behind 32-16 early in the second quarter before outscoring the Rockets 95-50 the rest of the way.

"It's all a matter of rhythm," said Kobe Bryant, who finished with 23 points. "We were a little rusty starting the game. We have a lot of weapons, we know how to use them. We move the ball and whoever gets it gets it."

Bryant has only scored 30 points once in the Lakers' first five games after doing so 36 times last season, but with Los Angeles' closest margin of victory being seven points, he hasn't needed to take over.

Seven Lakers are averaging at least 9.0 points, and Los Angeles leads the league with 51.4 rebounds per game, led by Pau Gasol's 11.6.

The Mavericks (2-4) beat San Antonio by 17 last Tuesday, their first of three straight road games, but lost the next two. The trip concluded with a 103-92 loss to the previously winless Los Angeles Clippers on Sunday.

"We just couldn't get stops, and we couldn't make any shots at the other end," said guard Jason Kidd, who had seven points and nine assists. "Even when we're not scoring, we've got to find ways to stop our opponents or we're not going to win any games. It's hard to win when you give up that many points."

That loss came without forward Josh Howard, who aggravated his sprained left wrist Friday at Denver. Howard is listed as day-to-day, though the Mavericks are hopeful he'll be able to play against the Lakers.

Howard is averaging 25.0 points in his last five home games against Los Angeles.

With Howard sidelined against the Clippers, Dirk Nowitzki helped pick up the slack, scoring 33 points. Since a 3-for-11, eight-point performance in a loss to Cleveland on Nov. 3, Nowitzki is scoring 28.7 ppg in his last three.

Nowitzki averaged 29.5 points in four games against the Lakers last season, but Los Angeles won the final three meetings.

The main reason for the Lakers' success against Dallas was Bryant. The Mavericks couldn't contain the Lakers superstar, who averaged 36.5 points on 54.2 percent shooting.

Los Angeles has lost four of its past five on the road against the Mavs, who are trying to avoid falling to 0-3 at home for the first time since 1993-94, when they lost their first 19 home games.
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(Seriously, WTF are these commercials on the UPN broadcast about?)
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I disagree, the fact that people want to put themselves in a state denial doesn't make their warped perspective true. It was in fact a knee-jerk reaction, and everyone bought in that it would make the team better. It did not... I can't overstate that enough. It did not do the one thing we intended the trade to do. We didn't improve our record, we didn't advance any further in the playoffs, as a result we didn't win the championship, and we certainly didn't position ourselves for any significant rebuilding (unless your hoping Green and Bass turn into all-stars). The tragedy of it all is the team was just fine the way it was constructed with the exception of a coaching change and a legimate two guard, and even despite those flaws we were able to win 67 games and make a finals appearance.

So yes, I still blame this trade for everything wrong with the team and if you want to extend this thought I blame the Lakers for convincing our once brilliant front office that it was in any sense a good idea. If we make it to the finals this year then everyone can celebrate the benefits of the trade... but until then how about the 90% of the fans who supported this trade just admit they were wrong and Mavericks fans can be bitter about the gloomy future of the franchise together?
This implies ceteris paribus, that every other team in the league stayed the same as they did the year we won 67 games. The Jazz took steroids, the Hornets took steroids, the Lakers took steroids... the teams in the East have gotten better as well.

If we did not make the Kidd trade, we probably wouldn't be elite anyway.

Who knows.

Go Mavs tonight, to hell w/ the Fakers
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I'm sure the streams are perfect and you can watch the games up to 2 days later if you missed it. Sounds perfect for me.
Just went ahead and bought it. Looks AWESOME so far.. obviously haven't messed around with it that much yet. Stream is nice.. looks exactly like non-HD TV, which is better than the normal streams.

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Green is the man. He almost seems like the calmest mav out there.
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Dirk says thanks.
Dirk can't do it all himself. Green is our only hope to "take it to the next level" assuming our other players figure out how to play together.
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Great D on Bynum there. Mavs on a 10-0 run.
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We are stroking it right now. Green is so damn confident.. it's something I hope he never loses it.

He'll make those as long as he thinks so.
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Green really does look like a stud. MIP?
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I like how Green is passing the ball more so far and after every shot he seems to run to the basket incase Terry's shot rims out, he can put it back.
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you can see our desperation out there

I'm glad
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GREAT D by Green on Kobe. Then he draws the foul. Mavs have a chance to make this a 15-0 run.
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Green just defended the HELL out of Kobe.
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Gimme more GREEN!
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Although I was mad on draft night when we didn't trade for Green, us picking him up this year makes up for it. He got his crappy years out of the way and is ready for a breakout, MIP, season.
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