10-22-2019, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FreshJive
“Boban Marjanovic will have the worst offensive rating on the team”
Like, how? Who wrote this?
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Dampier hands > Boban hands
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10-22-2019, 09:00 AM
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#1242
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Dampier hands > Boban hands
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Dear god, don't say that!
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10-22-2019, 09:46 AM
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So the "author" says SA tampered with KP, but they failed to mention any details whatsoever... This is a headline with zero content.
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Yea, I couldn't find anything else about it. Maybe a guilty attempt to justify swiping Morris from his agreement.
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10-23-2019, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by j0Shi
Cato. I think this is based on the fact that he doesn't really fit the style they wan to play. He's simply too immobile. Ideally it's not going to become a big issue because Boban is a niche player that Carlisle will only use against bigger bangers. Of course now with DP out the first few games, he's our primary backup big.
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It goes against Boban’s entire history as an NBA player. He has always been a high offense rating guy. It’s what he’s good at.
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10-23-2019, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Dampier hands > Boban hands
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Boban ears > Dampier ears
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10-29-2019, 11:28 AM
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https://twitter.com/SethPartnow/stat...00822741147655
Interesting stat here. Mavs are doing a decent job of not allowing open threes, but teams are shooting them well against us. Means opponents could be overperforming. Atlanta, Thunder, and Cleveland in danger zone because they allow tons of open three, but opponents haven't been able to hit them so far.
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10-29-2019, 11:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by j0Shi
https://twitter.com/SethPartnow/stat...00822741147655
Interesting stat here. Mavs are doing a decent job of not allowing open threes, but teams are shooting them well against us. Means opponents could be overperforming. Atlanta, Thunder, and Cleveland in danger zone because they allow tons of open three, but opponents haven't been able to hit them so far.
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Sounds like a typical Mavs curse.
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10-29-2019, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by j0Shi
https://twitter.com/SethPartnow/stat...00822741147655
Interesting stat here. Mavs are doing a decent job of not allowing open threes, but teams are shooting them well against us. Means opponents could be overperforming. Atlanta, Thunder, and Cleveland in danger zone because they allow tons of open three, but opponents haven't been able to hit them so far.
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It's REALLY early to care a lot about opponents hitting threes. The three teams we faced and then random chance are more than enough to have me worried.
What makes me happy is that we're top 10 in getting out to contest threes. That was a major achilles heel for us last season. Wright, Curry, THJ, Brunson, and others have really improved in terms of contesting. Heck, even 7'3" Porzingis has been solid contesting shots.
I'll just celebrate going from 30th in contesting threes to 8th.
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10-29-2019, 12:21 PM
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I'm much more concerned about the guards getting worked and the amount of lay ups
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10-29-2019, 12:28 PM
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Offensive numbers
4th in offensive rating
7th in TS%
14th in FG%
25th in 3pt%
4th in 3pt attempts
we really depend on the three and we really aren't hitting them (yet). Our FT shooting is really propping us up, because our FG% from two and three are both mediocre.
Defensive numbers
18th in defensive rating
17th in defensive rebound %
18th in rebound %
Other than contesting threes, we really aren't defending or rebounding well. We need to work a lot on that.
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10-30-2019, 09:03 AM
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The Mavericks Are Putting All the Right Pieces Around Luka and Kristaps
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Sharing the wealth has worked wonders for the Mavericks, who are now 3-1 with wins over the Nuggets, Wizards, and Pelicans and a two-point loss to Portland. Thus far, Doncic has looked like the player Dallas hoped he’d be when they traded Trae Young and a future first to Atlanta to land him on draft night in 2018, and Porzingis has looked like the forward who kick-started the Unicorn Revolution in New York. But the play of the supporting cast has carried them. Seven Mavericks are averaging between 7.5 and 11.3 points this season. Carlisle has created an egalitarian commune among the Mavericks who were once considered also-rans, building a supporting cast that resembles those of last year’s Nuggets and Clippers squads.
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10-31-2019, 08:33 AM
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The Catologue: The Mavericks’ offense is real … but is it THIS good?
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NOT REAL: The pace. Dallas is averaging 102 possessions per game, per the NBA’s stats page, which is only the 24th-highest figure in the league. But Dallas also uses transition on 16 percent of its possessions, per Cleaning The Glass, which is 12th-best in the league. Dallas needed to increase its transition opportunities this season after finishing 28th last season, which dragged down an offense that was actually league average when it operated in its half-court offense. Both the eye test and the numbers indicate that Dallas is, indeed, running more frequently. You can explain away the low number of possessions in two ways: 1) Denver has been the slowest team in the league thus far and 2) Dallas is simply taking up more clock on half-court possessions than other teams do. the Mavericks are averaging 100.9 points per play in the half court — second-best in the league, per Cleaning the Glass — so that’s no problem.
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One key point of my own. There was much talk how this team would speed things up, but they are pretty much walking possessions up with Doncic on the court.
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11-01-2019, 09:42 AM
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Not an article, but on the latest Lowe Post, Zach and Jay Williams spent a pretty good 5+ minutes on the Mavs. Starts at about 44 minutes in. Zach really likes us and thinks we're going to make the playoffs. Williams seems to agree and his perspective as a former player is interesting as well.
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11-01-2019, 10:08 AM
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Weird that i didnt read on it on Twitter allready but in the 2020 draft the Mavs get the more favorable of the Warriors/Rockets 2nd round pick. Without any protections.
So looks like we have solid chances to get a really high 2nd round pick (our own pick goes to Philly thanks to Noel).
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11-01-2019, 01:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
Weird that i didnt read on it on Twitter allready but in the 2020 draft the Mavs get the more favorable of the Warriors/Rockets 2nd round pick. Without any protections.
So looks like we have solid chances to get a really high 2nd round pick (our own pick goes to Philly thanks to Noel).
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This draft could be interesting, particularly if we fail to make the playoffs.
Our own lottery first-rounder and a high second-rounder could be really interesting. Even if we make the playoffs, we could get a 20-25 and Warriors' 35-40
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11-01-2019, 01:45 PM
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I really think the Warriors are going full tank and ending up Top-5...
But yeah the 2020 draft is going to be important. I really hope they are finally able to get one of the typical midround steals that have allstar potential...
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11-01-2019, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by j0Shi
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We are running and we are effective when we do. We're currently tied for 7th in points per fast break possession. Only six teams are more efficient on the break. We are also 2nd in turnover frequency when we run. That's REALLY good. We're scoring when we get on the break and aren't turning it over.
The problem is our half-court offense. We're learning a new system with new players so we're basically running plays at half speed. That often means that the opposing team reacts and we don't get much of anything. We use up 18-24 seconds of the clock without getting much and we end up with jacked shots at the end of the clock. That really messes up our possession length. That will improve as the year goes on and we get more precision and speed on our half-court playmaking.
What worries me is the frequency of fast breaks. We are 9th in the NBA in fast-break possessions and 23rd in rebound percentage. We're really outperforming our rebounding, but it's our limiting factor when it comes to how much we can run.
Right now we're only pulling down 48.3% of all rebounds, which not only means other teams are getting more possessions than us, but it also limits the number of fast-break possessions.
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11-04-2019, 02:42 PM
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After last night:
1st in offensive efficiency
5th in rebound %
20th in defensive efficiency
We have work to do defensively
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11-04-2019, 03:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
After last night:
1st in offensive efficiency
5th in rebound %
20th in defensive efficiency
We have work to do defensively
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The fact that we're 1st in offensive efficiency with THJ on the team is quite astonishing.
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11-04-2019, 05:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
The fact that we're 1st in offensive efficiency with THJ on the team is quite astonishing.
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THJ isn't causing any standout issues IMO. If one wanted to be technical about it, Wright is the only one that hasn't taken many dumb ill-advised shots. Might be able to add Brunson too.
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11-06-2019, 09:43 AM
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The Mavericks are giving Kristaps Porzingis the star treatment he should have received from the Knicks
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Following the trade, the Knicks privately pushed the idea that Porzingis’ older brother and agent, Janis, was a demanding nuisance. To quote a story in the wake of the blockbuster, “Janis wanted the kingdom.” If that’s the case in Dallas, though, it’s hard to fathom. Janis, according to a source, is living overseas and not even with KP in Dallas. Asked Tuesday if he’s experienced any intrusiveness from Porzingis’ brother, Carlisle said, “No. We’re thrilled to have KP here. We’re also really glad to have Valdy as part of our staff.”
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Saw this on Kirk's timeline.
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11-07-2019, 05:55 AM
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J.J. Barea sparks Mavericks’ win over Magic; Kristaps Porzingis highly critical of his own ‘awful’ performance
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I mean, I’ve had some decent moments already but it’s a mix of a lot of things that are new for me and that are there for me to figure out. I have to get the feel back, I have to get it back. Just how many times they hit the ball out of my hands and just things that — I have to be aware of those situations and the spots that I’m getting to to get my shots are not maybe the usual spots that I was getting used to when I played in New York. Now, it’s been 20 months since I played basketball last time. It’s a mix of a lot of things but as I said, it’s in my hands to figure it out and get out of this moment right here. It’s frustrating. I try to not beat myself up too much about it but I’m the first person that wants to get out of this moment that I’m in. (Deep breath) Oh man. That’s who I am, and it’s frustrating. I’m happy about the win but I’m frustrated (with myself). It’s all good. It’s part of it. It’s part of the game that we’re in. I’m going to figure it out.
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11-07-2019, 09:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by j0Shi
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Thanks for the article. While his performance has been a bit underwhelming compared to his last years in New York, specially the past few games, Porzingis' attitude so far I think has been top notch. I'm sure Carlisle and the staff are working on setting up more plays for Porzingis: two man game with Luka/Bronson or even Barea now that he is back to get him going.
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11-07-2019, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by j0Shi
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KP had a bad game, but it's also another example of a player who doesn't look comfortable in Rick's system. We've seen this many times before. And he isn't the only one who has been bad. Curry hasn't been good. Brunson is on and off and was terrible last night.
I think it would be better to play him in then out vs out most of the time. KP is very good around the basket and those skills are being wasted.
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11-07-2019, 10:26 AM
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I think it's very early to start making comments on the coaching/system with so many new players. We played a tough, physical team with a defensive star and they embarrassed our new offense.
Guys with only 7 or fewer regular-season games
KP (7 games)
Wright (7 games)
Curry (7 games)
Boban (3 games)
Guys with fewer than 30 games with the Mavs
Hardaway Jr (26 games)
Lee (24 games)
Guys with fewer than 40 games with the Mavs
Jackson (36 games)
Guys with fewer than 82 games with the Mavs
Brunson (80 games)
Doncic (79 games)
Guys with 2+ seasons with the Mavs
Barea
DFS
Kleber
Powell
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11-07-2019, 12:10 PM
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this
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11-07-2019, 02:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
I think it's very early to start making comments on the coaching/system with so many new players. We played a tough, physical team with a defensive star and they embarrassed our new offense.
Guys with only 7 or fewer regular-season games
KP (7 games)
Wright (7 games)
Curry (7 games)
Boban (3 games)
Guys with fewer than 30 games with the Mavs
Hardaway Jr (26 games)
Lee (24 games)
Guys with fewer than 40 games with the Mavs
Jackson (36 games)
Guys with fewer than 82 games with the Mavs
Brunson (80 games)
Doncic (79 games)
Guys with 2+ seasons with the Mavs
Barea
DFS
Kleber
Powell
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Yeah, I was about to say, it's basically a whole new team, and a pretty young team too. Let's also not forget that KP is still only 7 games into a return from a devastating injury which kept him off the court for a year and a half. There's bound to be growing pains.
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11-07-2019, 04:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
but it's also another example of a player who doesn't look comfortable in Rick's system. We've seen this many times before.
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Who are we talking about here? Rondo? Noel? Dennis? I’m struggling to find an example I could blame on Carlisle.
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11-07-2019, 08:13 PM
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11-08-2019, 01:56 PM
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11-12-2019, 02:21 PM
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from "Dalton Trigg@dalton_trigg
Maxi Kleber has played in 9 of the Mavs’ 10 games so far this season and is playing 26.7 MPG. He’s making that 4yr/$36M deal look really good:
10.2 PPG | 6.6 RPG | 1.1 BPG
45.6 FG% | 40.5 3P% | 86.7 FT% | 58.1 eFG% | 61.7 TS%""
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11-12-2019, 04:30 PM
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Maxi has been playing very well.
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11-15-2019, 09:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Offensive numbers
4th in offensive rating
7th in TS%
14th in FG%
25th in 3pt%
4th in 3pt attempts
we really depend on the three and we really aren't hitting them (yet). Our FT shooting is really propping us up, because our FG% from two and three are both mediocre.
Defensive numbers
18th in defensive rating
17th in defensive rebound %
18th in rebound %
Other than contesting threes, we really aren't defending or rebounding well. We need to work a lot on that.
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It's been this way for the last 5 years
Why would it get better when we have the same exact coach?
This franchise hasn't played good defense since Dwayne Casey left town let that sink in for a moment
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11-15-2019, 09:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshJive
Who are we talking about here? Rondo? Noel? Dennis? I’m struggling to find an example I could blame on Carlisle.
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Javel McGee
I find it amazing that he couldn't even sniff the floor in Dallas even on a team that desperately needed size
Yet he goes to the warriors and now Lakers and franchises find away to utilize his talents
That's coaching imo
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11-15-2019, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
It's been this way for the last 5 years
Why would it get better when we have the same exact coach?
This franchise hasn't played good defense since Dwayne Casey left town let that sink in for a moment
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That's a bit extreme, We also haven't had guys like Marion, Kidd, Stevenson or Chandler since then either. It's not like Casey was the only recipe for defensive success.
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11-15-2019, 09:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
I think it's very early to start making comments on the coaching/system with so many new players. We played a tough, physical team with a defensive star and they embarrassed our new offense.
Guys with only 7 or fewer regular-season games
KP (7 games)
Wright (7 games)
Curry (7 games)
Boban (3 games)
Guys with fewer than 30 games with the Mavs
Hardaway Jr (26 games)
Lee (24 games)
Guys with fewer than 40 games with the Mavs
Jackson (36 games)
Guys with fewer than 82 games with the Mavs
Brunson (80 games)
Doncic (79 games)
Guys with 2+ seasons with the Mavs
Barea
DFS
Kleber
Powell
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reminder
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11-15-2019, 02:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SMC0007
That's a bit extreme, We also haven't had guys like Marion, Kidd, Stevenson or Chandler since then either. It's not like Casey was the only recipe for defensive success.
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They have a rim protector in porzingus who you can funnel everything into and they have two solid wing defenders with length in Wright and DFS
So they do have a few pieces to play decent defense but it's up to the coach to scheme around that trio right?
Yet we have never seen a closing lineup that requires the team to get stops have those 3 guys all on the floor together
This team shouldn't be as bad as they are defensively year after year.
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11-15-2019, 03:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas41
They have a rim protector in porzingus who you can funnel everything into and they have two solid wing defenders with length in Wright and DFS
So they do have a few pieces to play decent defense but it's up to the coach to scheme around that trio right?
Yet we have never seen a closing lineup that requires the team to get stops have those 3 guys all on the floor together
This team shouldn't be as bad as they are defensively year after year.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas41
I think DFS and Wright should both start
People spend way too much time focusing on their outside shooting and ignore their ability to defend and just make hustle plays.
Besides if porzingus ever decided to step up his game there wouldn't be an issue offensively starting these two guys to balance out the offense and defense
I watched Dirk carry teams for years offensively by himself so there should be no excuses throwing two defenders on the floor with luka and porzingus
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Before trashing him all the time maybe try to spell his name right first.
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11-15-2019, 03:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas41
They have a rim protector in porzingus who you can funnel everything into and they have two solid wing defenders with length in Wright and DFS
So they do have a few pieces to play decent defense but it's up to the coach to scheme around that trio right?
Yet we have never seen a closing lineup that requires the team to get stops have those 3 guys all on the floor together
This team shouldn't be as bad as they are defensively year after year.
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Well, Wright and DFS are not the players or defenders that Marion, Kidd or Stevenson was, and KP isn't near the defender that Chandler was. The second part to my defense probably yields to your point about RC a bit and it's DFS and Wright are only getting 22 and 25 mins. Marion and Kidd both were getting upwards of 30. The difference is DFS, Wright can't even be compared talent wise to Kidd, Marion.
I share the annoyance with Ricks rotations and minutes for sure, I just don't think the team is talented enough overall to compare to when he was really successful yet. Overall I agree that this team should not be as bad defensively as they have been.
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11-15-2019, 04:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sefant77
Before trashing him all the time maybe try to spell his name right first.
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A little sensitive aren't you
Calling KP a good rim protector is bashing him lol
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