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Old 12-14-2019, 05:24 PM   #1
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Is it just me or does Mark Cuban look like a dude who doesn't have any friends to play basketball with, so he bought Mavs and is now having the time of his life? No disrespect.
I never thought of him as a cool guy, but he looks to me like he's going out of his way just so Mavs have it going, and is having even more fun with this team as we do. And it can't be for the money.
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Strange, being how we are doing rather well on rebounding. We're currently 6th in the league.

Still, I wouldn't mind either a shot blocker or another strong defensive guy to go with Kleber as we're only 14th in defense.

Apparently Myles Turner is available. Wonder what he'd cost and if he'd help.

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Strange, being how we are doing rather well on rebounding. We're currently 6th in the league.

Still, I wouldn't mind either a shot blocker or another strong defensive guy to go with Kleber as we're only 14th in defense.

Apparently Myles Turner is available. Wonder what he'd cost and if he'd help.
I wonder why don't the Mavs play more on Boban? I was so hyped when he got to Dallas, and now he just sits about. Is his body really that fragile?
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Strange, being how we are doing rather well on rebounding. We're currently 6th in the league.

Still, I wouldn't mind either a shot blocker or another strong defensive guy to go with Kleber as we're only 14th in defense.

Apparently Myles Turner is available. Wonder what he'd cost and if he'd help.
Idk how much he would help. He's not a good rebounder and his defense isn't much of an upgrade aside from some shot blocking. I'd swap a big and some candy for him but not any real assets.
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Old 12-17-2019, 09:14 PM   #5
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I still think KP’s maximum potential is as a stretch 5. I’d love to put him next to someone like Ibaka- a 3&D big man who can rebound and bang in the post a little bit.
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I still think KP’s maximum potential is as a stretch 5. I’d love to put him next to someone like Ibaka- a 3&D big man who can rebound and bang in the post a little bit.
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@DwainPrice: Former #Mavs players Shawn Marion and Michael Finley are candidates for the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame class of 2020. The finalists will be announced on Feb. 14 during All-Star Weekend in Chicago.
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Two of the most likable Mavericks of all time, but I'm on the fence about hall of fame.
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Two of the most likable Mavericks of all time, but I'm on the fence about hall of fame.
Marion is one of those "Hall of Very Good" players who i think is about 50/50 for HoF. No way on Finley though. Love the guy, but no way was his career HoF worthy.
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Marion is one of those "Hall of Very Good" players who i think is about 50/50 for HoF. No way on Finley though. Love the guy, but no way was his career HoF worthy.
I definitely don't agree that there is "no way" he is HOF worthy. He was one of the most versatile SGs of his generation, and his only major flaw was ball handling...yet he was an excellent passer. He definitely fits in with Marion as very good but not great.
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I definitely don't agree that there is "no way" he is HOF worthy. He was one of the most versatile SGs of his generation, and his only major flaw was ball handling...yet he was an excellent passer. He definitely fits in with Marion as very good but not great.
In terms of his resume and career accolades, he's not even remotely close to HoF worthy. Only a 2 time all-star, 0 all-NBAs. He does have one championship, although he was not a particularly important part of the team that won it. There's no shortage of far better, far more accomplished players than him that are still waiting and may never get in. Off the top of my head, Chris Webber, Shawn Kemp, Sidney Moncreif, Penny Hardaway, Tim Hardaway, and Latrell Sprewell are far more deserving than Fin, will probably never get in, and I'm honestly not sure they should. Honestly I don't think Marion is really Hall of Fame worthy, but my bar is probably a bit higher than the actual Hall of Fame's is. Personally I'm not sure Webber's NBA career on its own is really Hall of Fame worthy, but I'd probably squeak him in because of the Fab Five stuff. Fin wouldn't even be at the top of my list of former Mavericks for Hall of Fame. Mark Aguirre and Ro Blackman were both better players with more accolades, and I'm almost certain neither will ever get in.

There are exceptions, but typically 7 time all-star is what's considered a lock for Hall of Fame. There's a few guys who have gotten in with only 5 or 6 all-stars and a few all-NBA's, but they're pretty rare. They're typically guys who have something other noteworthy to their resumes, like Chris Mullin for example, had a great college career and was on the Dream Team. For me personally, I think you need to have been one of the players who defined your era. You need to have been a top 10-15 player of your era, or at least have done something else really noteworthy (been an important piece of a dynasty e.g Parker and Ginobili, or win multiple DPOY's for example.)

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Nobody is a bigger Finley fan than me but even I know that while Finley is special, he's not HOF special
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I'd tend to agree, but I also feel like the basketball HOF is kind of a joke, standards wise.
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KP spotted outside the 3-point line is intentional. Post-up is not in the plans. Still, I'd like to see a bit more pnr.

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Good read.

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What, in your view, changed that you started coming off the bench? Delon Wright: I don’t know, it’s a coach’s decision. Whatever he saw, he wanted me to come off the bench. So … kinda can’t fight it. Carlisle has said you feel more comfortable coming off the bench. Would you agree with that? Delon Wright: No, I wouldn’t say that. It was the first game of the year, so, I don’t know. Know what I mean? It was the first game of the year, we won, the next game he decided that. – via Tim Cato @ The Athletic
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Mavs go .500 over a one-month period and everyone is looking to create drama.
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We have also been missing key players too. That said, drama is always right around the corner. You gotta know and see that coming as a player and as a coach.
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Didn’t even remember him ever starting. Cato made it sound like he was benched, or something.
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Didn’t even remember him ever starting. Cato made it sound like he was benched, or something.
He started the first game and the third. He's been coming off the bench the other games
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He needs to quit complaining. He got his chance. LOL
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I for one would actually really like to see a Delon - THJ - Luka - DFS - KP lineup more often.
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KP had PRP injection in his knee and expected to miss the next 2 games.

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KP had PRP injection in his knee and expected to miss the next 2 games.

https://1053thefan.radio.com/article...s-next-2-games
So it's obviously more than just a sore knee...
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Lamar Odom’s stint with the Dallas Mavericks was a well-documented one. It was clear to everyone that it was a poor fit as Lamar didn’t want to be in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, and Mark Cuban definitely didn’t like his effort on the court.

However, Odom’s latest thoughts on his doomed tenure with the Mavs revealed a new angle. He reportedly told Mark Cuban that he would only be getting a fraction of what he used to be during his time with the Los Angeles Clippers and Lakers.

Odom was on the Winging It With Vince Carter on The Ringer and revealed more details about why it happened in such a state.

“When I was traded to Dallas, I was in a really tough place. One of my closest cousins just got killed. And I think I was probably still grieving for my son passing away, which I never really got over or got the chance to grieve because of the position I held in the family. I felt like they couldn’t let them see me look down and out. I was in a messed up mental place and I told Mark Cuban about that when he traded for me, that you won’t be getting the Lamar Odom that used to go at Dirk. You’re getting a shell of him.”

Odom only spent one season with the Mavs before returning to Los Angeles for one final ride with the Clippers. During his stay at the American Airlines Center, his production sharply dropped to 6.6 points, 4.2 rebounds, and 1.7 assists on 35.2-percent shooting. He was also atrocious from three (25.2-percent) and the free-throw line (59.2-percent). Currently, Odom is not playing basketball as he was deactivated for the 2019 season by the BIG3. It remains to be seen if he’ll be able to return this coming season.

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Lamar Odom’s stint with the Dallas Mavericks was a well-documented one. It was clear to everyone that it was a poor fit as Lamar didn’t want to be in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, and Mark Cuban definitely didn’t like his effort on the court.

However, Odom’s latest thoughts on his doomed tenure with the Mavs revealed a new angle. He reportedly told Mark Cuban that he would only be getting a fraction of what he used to be during his time with the Los Angeles Clippers and Lakers.

Odom was on the Winging It With Vince Carter on The Ringer and revealed more details about why it happened in such a state.

“When I was traded to Dallas, I was in a really tough place. One of my closest cousins just got killed. And I think I was probably still grieving for my son passing away, which I never really got over or got the chance to grieve because of the position I held in the family. I felt like they couldn’t let them see me look down and out. I was in a messed up mental place and I told Mark Cuban about that when he traded for me, that you won’t be getting the Lamar Odom that used to go at Dirk. You’re getting a shell of him.”

Odom only spent one season with the Mavs before returning to Los Angeles for one final ride with the Clippers. During his stay at the American Airlines Center, his production sharply dropped to 6.6 points, 4.2 rebounds, and 1.7 assists on 35.2-percent shooting. He was also atrocious from three (25.2-percent) and the free-throw line (59.2-percent). Currently, Odom is not playing basketball as he was deactivated for the 2019 season by the BIG3. It remains to be seen if he’ll be able to return this coming season.

https://clutchpoints.com/mavs-news-l...-shell-of-him/
Yeah I remember pretty well he had his son and a close friend die and I wasnt expecting great out of him. It was clear why Odom was let go from LA. Hate that Cuban didnt see it and get him some help before he deteriorated, regardless of being on the team.
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Unless Tim Hardaway Jr. declines his $19 million player option, expect the Mavericks to use the Taxpayer MLE instead of trying to clear cap space in 2020. It will be interesting to see how the front office approaches long-term spending because they could actually have close to max space in 2021 while retaining all of their core but that flexibility decreases with a multi-season MLE contract."
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So which trade was worse? Bringing in Odom or renting Rondo?

I know I hate Rondo even more than Odom, because he had a choice, and chose to be an ass. Kidd had similar problems with Carlisle when he first got here, but he handled it like a pro and ended up with a ring. If Rondo gets another one, it will be from hanging on to the apron strings of much better players.
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from espn Zach Lowe:
Ten NBA things I like and don't like, including the Luka Doncic-Dwight Powell dance
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...t-powell-dance

#8. Respect the Mavs' other big men
I never got the mostly quashed rumblings Dallas might be interested in Andre Drummond. Kristaps Porzingis should eventually play more as the Mavs' lone big man, and in the meantime, Maxi Kleber and Dwight Powell are doing just fine alongside him.

Skeptics in the preseason perceived the Mavs roster as top heavy: two stars and a motley crew of bench guys. It's true (it's damn true!) Dallas does not have anyone like a third member of past championship Big 3s. But they do have (by my count) seven guys you might describe as quality fifth starters -- seven fifth-best players, all but one (Tim Hardaway Jr.) on value contracts. There is power in giving zero minutes to below-average players.

Powell has always been a dangerous rim-runner, but he has exploded as Luka Doncic's go-to pick-and-roll dance partner. Only three player pairs have teamed up on that play more often. (For trivia purposes, the top three in volume: Spencer Dinwiddie/Jarrett Allen, Damian Lillard/Hassan Whiteside, and the Lou Williams/Montrezl Harrell symphony.)

The Mavs average a ginormous 1.18 points per possession anytime Doncic or Powell shoots out of the pick-and-roll, or passes to a teammate who launches -- ninth-best among 226 duos who have run at least 100 such plays, per Second Spectrum.

Powell has improved as a passer on the move -- crucial when teams trap Doncic:

Kleber does a little of everything. He's a serviceable screen-and-dive guy. He is hitting 41% from deep on a career-high attempt rate, and he makes canny plays off the bounce when defenses rush at him:

Kleber is a sturdy, smart defender across multiple positions. Rick Carlisle has trusted him to guard extra-large ball-handlers, including LeBron, Giannis Antetokounmpo, and Simmons. He's a solid rim protector with some hops.

Dallas is starting Kleber and Powell in the absence of Porzingis, and the Mavs have outscored opponents by 13 points per 100 possessions with both on the floor.

Kleber and Powell earn $18 million combined this season -- $9 million less than Drummond. Drummond holds a much-discussed player option for 2020-21. Kleber and Powell are under contract through 2023. Leaving aside money and whatever assets Detroit might demand, it's unclear whether giving Kleber/Powell minutes to Drummond would even make Dallas any better.
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...t-powell-dance

#8. Respect the Mavs' other big men
I never got the mostly quashed rumblings Dallas might be interested in Andre Drummond. Kristaps Porzingis should eventually play more as the Mavs' lone big man, and in the meantime, Maxi Kleber and Dwight Powell are doing just fine alongside him.

Skeptics in the preseason perceived the Mavs roster as top heavy: two stars and a motley crew of bench guys. It's true (it's damn true!) Dallas does not have anyone like a third member of past championship Big 3s. But they do have (by my count) seven guys you might describe as quality fifth starters -- seven fifth-best players, all but one (Tim Hardaway Jr.) on value contracts. There is power in giving zero minutes to below-average players.

Powell has always been a dangerous rim-runner, but he has exploded as Luka Doncic's go-to pick-and-roll dance partner. Only three player pairs have teamed up on that play more often. (For trivia purposes, the top three in volume: Spencer Dinwiddie/Jarrett Allen, Damian Lillard/Hassan Whiteside, and the Lou Williams/Montrezl Harrell symphony.)

The Mavs average a ginormous 1.18 points per possession anytime Doncic or Powell shoots out of the pick-and-roll, or passes to a teammate who launches -- ninth-best among 226 duos who have run at least 100 such plays, per Second Spectrum.

Powell has improved as a passer on the move -- crucial when teams trap Doncic:

Kleber does a little of everything. He's a serviceable screen-and-dive guy. He is hitting 41% from deep on a career-high attempt rate, and he makes canny plays off the bounce when defenses rush at him:

Kleber is a sturdy, smart defender across multiple positions. Rick Carlisle has trusted him to guard extra-large ball-handlers, including LeBron, Giannis Antetokounmpo, and Simmons. He's a solid rim protector with some hops.

Dallas is starting Kleber and Powell in the absence of Porzingis, and the Mavs have outscored opponents by 13 points per 100 possessions with both on the floor.

Kleber and Powell earn $18 million combined this season -- $9 million less than Drummond. Drummond holds a much-discussed player option for 2020-21. Kleber and Powell are under contract through 2023. Leaving aside money and whatever assets Detroit might demand, it's unclear whether giving Kleber/Powell minutes to Drummond would even make Dallas any better.
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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...t-powell-dance

#8. Respect the Mavs' other big men
I never got the mostly quashed rumblings Dallas might be interested in Andre Drummond. Kristaps Porzingis should eventually play more as the Mavs' lone big man, and in the meantime, Maxi Kleber and Dwight Powell are doing just fine alongside him.

Skeptics in the preseason perceived the Mavs roster as top heavy: two stars and a motley crew of bench guys. It's true (it's damn true!) Dallas does not have anyone like a third member of past championship Big 3s. But they do have (by my count) seven guys you might describe as quality fifth starters -- seven fifth-best players, all but one (Tim Hardaway Jr.) on value contracts. There is power in giving zero minutes to below-average players.

Powell has always been a dangerous rim-runner, but he has exploded as Luka Doncic's go-to pick-and-roll dance partner. Only three player pairs have teamed up on that play more often. (For trivia purposes, the top three in volume: Spencer Dinwiddie/Jarrett Allen, Damian Lillard/Hassan Whiteside, and the Lou Williams/Montrezl Harrell symphony.)

The Mavs average a ginormous 1.18 points per possession anytime Doncic or Powell shoots out of the pick-and-roll, or passes to a teammate who launches -- ninth-best among 226 duos who have run at least 100 such plays, per Second Spectrum.

Powell has improved as a passer on the move -- crucial when teams trap Doncic:

Kleber does a little of everything. He's a serviceable screen-and-dive guy. He is hitting 41% from deep on a career-high attempt rate, and he makes canny plays off the bounce when defenses rush at him:

Kleber is a sturdy, smart defender across multiple positions. Rick Carlisle has trusted him to guard extra-large ball-handlers, including LeBron, Giannis Antetokounmpo, and Simmons. He's a solid rim protector with some hops.

Dallas is starting Kleber and Powell in the absence of Porzingis, and the Mavs have outscored opponents by 13 points per 100 possessions with both on the floor.

Kleber and Powell earn $18 million combined this season -- $9 million less than Drummond. Drummond holds a much-discussed player option for 2020-21. Kleber and Powell are under contract through 2023. Leaving aside money and whatever assets Detroit might demand, it's unclear whether giving Kleber/Powell minutes to Drummond would even make Dallas any better.
Meh.

If DP keeps the level from the last 3 games up then hell give him another raise for all I care. I'll reserve more critical judgment in the playoffs IF we make it.
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If DP keeps the level from the last 3 games up then hell give him another raise for all I care. I'll reserve more critical judgment in the playoffs IF we make it.
October - 4pts, 4reb, 50.0% shooting
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So in the playoffs he should be 24pts, 13rebs...or bust.
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At the rate he's going, he should be averaging 24pts, 10.2rebounds in 45.6min per game :b

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January - 14pts, 7reb, 74% shooting
There's a funny thing about stats. They don't differentiate between playing and blowing out a smallish GS Warriors team and then getting smacked around by the Lakers. However, the stats from both those games are lumped together to come up with an average, and that average can be very misleading. Strictly looking at the average of the stats for these 2 games, one might conclude that Powell played pretty well, but anybody who watched both games knows that Powell was not the same player in both games - especially not the player the average of the stats would have you believe he is - especially in the Laker game, so yeah, while he may be effective and have some nice games against backups and smaller lineups, when the rubber meets the road against a bigger, more physical playoff bound team with 5 legitimate NBA starters, well, let's just say that Powell won't be sniffing the average of his stats. He's clearly not the same player in these matchups that his stats would lead one to believe imo.

Can somebody even name for me 2 or 3 other NBA teams who would have Powell as their starting 5 if he were on their team?

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Does Dwight Powell get better as the season progresses or does he feast on weak competition and insignificant games?

Hopefully it's the former.
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