2014 Offseason Thread

[ocelot_ark]

I don't think the Mavs have been mentioned with Pau since the first day of free agency.

[Skywalker]

@ChrisMannixSI: Paul Pierce's representatives have told teams Pierce is seeking a two-year contract in the $9-10 million per year range, per sources.

[dirt_dobber]

My hope is that we get Chandler Parsons - I am afraid Houston would match whatever offer we make. He is by far the player I want most on our Mavs.

[ocelot_ark]

Originally Posted by Skywalker

@ChrisMannixSI: Paul Pierce's representatives have told teams Pierce is seeking a two-year contract in the $9-10 million per year range, per sources.

If for some reason we can't lure one of the better SF prizes this offseason, I think Pierce at $4-5MM/yr would be okay. TWICE that? No f'ing way. It'll be interesting to see if anyone bites. I'd rather take our chances on the trade market.

[ocelot_ark]

Originally Posted by dirt_dobber

My hope is that we get Chandler Parsons - I am afraid Houston would match whatever offer we make. He is by far the player I want most on our Mavs.

I'm with you. Parsons, to me, fits the team the best of all non-Lebron/Melo options. I think we desperately need someone that can consistently hit big 3's. Obviously, a great defensive SF would be a nice thing to have, but I think we need outside shooting more than anything at this point.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Good post.

Thanks!!!

I think the Mavs are waiting for Melo and LeBron to decide before they begin serious discussions with guys like Deng, Ariza, Parsons and Stephenson. I think they know they have no chance at Melo or LeBron so they are waiting to see the fall out after a lot of teams pay a premium for average to above average players.

A guy like Deng (or one of the others) may slip through the cracks with very few teams left with cap room to pay him what he is currently looking for so we may be able to sign him at a huge discount.
Isn't that basically how Ellis and Dalembert fell into our laps last season?

It is sort of like trading down in the draft when you know there's a good chance the guy you want all along will be there with a later pick.

And besides, it doesn't make any sense negotiating with someone telling them they are your second choice.

[hayth.james.g]

Originally Posted by Skywalker

@ChrisMannixSI: Paul Pierce's representatives have told teams Pierce is seeking a two-year contract in the $9-10 million per year range, per sources.

I almost spit out my coffee when I read your post. That crack pipe must be getting around these days.

[DavidDaMonkey]

Originally Posted by hayth.james.g

I almost spit out my coffee when I read your post. That crack pipe must be getting around these days.

I keep watching that gif over and over and over and I can't figure out why the straw moves

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Pierce might get that kind of deal from the Nyets, but I just can't see anyone else offering that.

[Kante]

Originally Posted by Skywalker

@ChrisMannixSI: Paul Pierce's representatives have told teams Pierce is seeking a two-year contract in the $9-10 million per year range, per sources.

GTFO!

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Pierce might get that kind of deal from the Nyets, but I just can't see anyone else offering that.

Smart move would be to give him the ungodly one year salary of 18 million, a 2 million guarantee for the 2nd year, with another 16 million unguaranteed portion, with the team holding the right until 2 days after signing starts....Long live the Dust Chip.

[VC25@dal]

I'm beginning to warm more and more up to the idea of ARIZA

Parsons is slow, not a great defender, might be uncomfortable as he seems to like his 'bros' in Houston; expensive. Good crafty scorer however and would fit decently.

Deng is old, extremely slow laterally; expensiveish, solid defender

Fat ass Pierce is wanting 10$ mil nuff said

Ariza is faster, more of an athlete, quicker, good defender, shot 40% from 3? Tenacious rebounder when he wants to be. Good guy. Good price. What more do you need at that position. That's like a younger marion but a less ugly shot.

[VC25@dal]

plus we'd have more flexibility in getting another point guard and backup big

[EricaLubarsky]

I'm sure we're going to go into the season with an awesome roster, but the quiet is aggravating.

[G-Man]

MY SF thoughts:

Screw waiting for Lebron or Melo. They ain't coming, and if they are, they need to say it right now. Mavs need to call them both and say "we're making a small forward deal tomorrow. If you want to be a part of it, say so now. We waited until now, but we will not miss out of getting Ariza or Deng. We will need one of them to shut you down next season, which we all know is the only time you're coming to Dallas anyway, in an opponents uniform."

Screw Parsons: Making a bid for a restricted guy means waiting 3 more days after contracts can be signed to see if Houston will match...which they will if they don't get Melo. Parsons is not enough better than Deng or Ariza to risk missing one of them. And I don't hear anyone talking about Melo going to Houston anymore. They might get Bosh, but I think we need to be negotiating while we wait. So....

On to Ariza and Deng. Both have flaws, and may not be as good a fit as Parsons, but they will be a significant upgrade over Marion, just in youth and athleticism. A younger, more athletic version of Marion should be good enough. It was good enough in 2011. Remember, the path to the championship runs through Kwai Leonard, Melo, KD and Lebron. Someone who can defend them is essential. Both Deng and Ariza are totally free agents. Over pay a little and get it done.

And without blowing 20 million on Melo, even if we gave a SF $12 million, the remaining cash could shore up the PG position and backup center. Get Mo for $2 million, and hire a personal trainer for Felton. I really would rather have a well stocked, well built team now, than try to piece one together after we give a free agent 18 million dollars. It was worth it to take a shot at Melo or Lebron. But they ain't coming here. Lets move on. Now.

[sike]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I'm sure we're going to go into the season with an awesome roster, but the quiet is aggravating.

Love the enthusiasm!

Personally, I wouldn't mind the quite if I was as confident at you, EL.

Must spread rep

[hayth.james.g]

Today was incredibly disappointing. I know I know..... Patience and blah blah. I was convinced something was going down today by some misplaced "hunch". Batter up.

[DGM]

Can Stevenson play the 3?

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by hayth.james.g

Today was incredibly disappointing. I know I know..... Patience and blah blah. I was convinced something was going down today by some misplaced "hunch". Batter up.

I don't think the first domino is going down until the 10th...

[sike]

Originally Posted by DGM

Can Stevenson play the 3?

He can guard 1-3s. But is best suited for the 2.

The dude will battle anyone. (teammates? )

[Melonhead]

Any word on how the meeting with Mo went?

[Vinsanity]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

Any word on how the meeting with Mo went?

I'm guessing it went somewhere along the lines of "very well"... just like every free agent meeting. Just like our meeting with Dwight last year and our meeting with Melo this year....

But hopefully Mo decides to come here for cheap, he'd be a nice weapon off the bench who can sperad the floor and hit big shots.

[Underdog]

@SpearsNBAYahoo: Due to their guard logjam & payroll, Warriors are willing to help their free agent guard Jordan Crawford with sign and trade, a source said.

@SpearsNBAYahoo: Warriors free agent guard Jordan Crawford is receiving interest from Bulls, Mavs, Lakers, Knicks & Nets, the source said.

[Eman]

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo 7m
Warriors free agent guard Jordan Crawford is receiving interest from Bulls, Mavs, Lakers, Knicks & Nets, the source said.

Hmmmmmm

[hayth.james.g]

Originally Posted by Eman

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo 7m
Warriors free agent guard Jordan Crawford is receiving interest from Bulls, Mavs, Lakers, Knicks & Nets, the source said.

Hmmmmmm

Do they want Felton? Oo

Actually..... I think I will just stick with Felton.

[yahyes]

I'd consider Crawford over Mo.

[Cerberus]

A 14 minute video (courtesy of "Draftexpress") of Chandler Parsons.
Breaking down the strengths and weaknesses of Rockets small forward Chandler Parsons.

Second half of the video really outlines his defensive deficiencies/focus and shooting inconsistencies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp8BhA8khvI

Also in their YouTube account is other 2014 free agents scouting 14~ minutes videos such as:

- LeBron James
- Carmelo Anthony
- Gordon Hayward
- Isaiah Thomas
- Lance Stephenson
- Greg Monroe
- Eric Bledsoe

EDIT: Some lazy defence by Hawyward and Parsons even though they are potential replacements for Marion.

[Melonhead]

I'm drawing a blank on Jordan crawford. Bench player? Better than felton or Mo?

[yahyes]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

I'm drawing a blank on Jordan crawford. Bench player? Better than felton or Mo?

Bench role player. Primarily offensive shooting. Just like Mo.

[sike]

Lance's video is awesome. I so want him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npcj9WLml2M

[Underdog]

@tomhaberstroh: One thing this free agency has taught me: we are really bad at waiting.

[yahyes]

I so want a starting lineup of: Monta, Lance, Parsons, Dirk, and Tyson or Felton, Monta, Lebron, Dirk, and Tyson.

[jamaljasonandjimmy]

Originally Posted by dirt_dobber

My hope is that we get Chandler Parsons - I am afraid Houston would match whatever offer we make. He is by far the player I want most on our Mavs.

[hayth.james.g]

Originally Posted by Cerberus

A 14 minute video (courtesy of "Draftexpress") of Chandler Parsons.
Breaking down the strengths and weaknesses of Rockets small forward Chandler Parsons.

Second half of the video really outlines his defensive deficiencies/focus and shooting inconsistencies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp8BhA8khvI

Also in their YouTube account is other 2014 free agents scouting 14~ minutes videos such as:

- LeBron James
- Carmelo Anthony
- Gordon Hayward
- Isaiah Thomas
- Lance Stephenson
- Greg Monroe
- Eric Bledsoe

EDIT: Some lazy defence by Hawyward and Parsons even though they are potential replacements for Marion.

Watching Parsons tape has me convinced that he would be perfect in Dallas. The weaknesses are real, but I think Carlisle has a tremendous affect on him. Plus.. can you imagine two off seasons with Dirk working with him?Geeeez.

Defensive note: "Struggles with toughness and focus but has the tools."

[spreedom]

Man, watching that video of Monroe... just, yeah. I really wish we would have made a play for him. tremendously excited to have Tyson back, but Monroe is such a great athlete.

[dalmations202]

I really would like Dallas to get Pau. IMO, Dirk, Pau, Tyson would be the best front line in the league and all you would be looking for is defensive players at SF and backup PG.....especially if you resign Harris and Carter. Example: Bruce Bowen was not a top notch SF, but he could defend and shoot the 3 and has many championships because of it.

Control the front line, and heck, trade Wright for a defensive minded SF who can shoot the 3 and see what you can do. They should be able to find one, IMO.

I am all for full rebuild once Dirk actually retires so age is not that important.

[jamaljasonandjimmy]

Originally Posted by hayth.james.g

Watching Parsons tape has me convinced that he would be perfect in Dallas. The weaknesses are real, but I think Carlisle has a tremendous affect on him. Plus.. can you imagine two off seasons with Dirk working with him?Geeeez.

Defensive note: "Struggles with toughness and focus but has the tools."

[Underdog]

@rick_bonnell: Gordon Hayward will sign a major offer sheet with the Hornets.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

I'm drawing a blank on Jordan crawford. Bench player? Better than felton or Mo?

I had to google him, too. I got the name confused with Jamal.

Still didn't recognize him when I saw his pics/stats. Dude isn't very efficient, though. Career 40.5% shooter who only shoots about 30% from three. Is he a defensive guy or just a really bad offensive/shooter?

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I had to google him, too. I got the name confused with Jamal.

Still didn't recognize him when I saw his pics/stats. Dude isn't very efficient, though. Career 40.5% shooter who only shoots about 30% from three. Is he a defensive guy or just a really bad offensive/shooter?

Not much to speak of defensively. He is not very efficient, your eyes do not deceive. He had a really good first half under Brad Stevens running some point before they shipped him off.

Also known as the guy who dunked on LeBron at his basketball camp or something. Tapes were confiscated, kerffufle ensued

At risk of lazy cliche comparison he is sort of poor mans Jamal Crawford