Mavs off-season and draft 2023 thread

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by Amarelooms

Can someone explain how lakers are signing all these players to fairly decent size contracts?

Gabe Vincent took their MLE
Cam Reddish 2 year vet minimum
Taurean Prince 4.5 bi annual exception
Hachimura Bird Rights

Reeves offered the max at 4 years 52 million

[EricaLubarsky]

Good news: some nice wings still out there. Probably my top three overall going into FA in Grant Williams, Paul Reed, and PJ Washington.

Bad news: they?re all RFA so it?ll either be a gamble or a SNT and that will take 3+ days to settle.

If we want UFA there?s also Miles Bridges (ugh) and Dillon Brooks (gag)

[EricaLubarsky]

Not sure we want another center, but it?s picked clean

Wood: ew, no and probably a better PF than C
Lopez: reportedly getting in excess of 22 a year
Plumlee: good choice (if 1-4 of our centers are traded)

[EricaLubarsky]

Luka/Kyrie with spot minutes from Green/Curry/Hardy is probably enough for PG but so sunny is going to be a star.

We only have the MLE and he?s RFA

One can dream though

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Good news: some nice wings still out there. Probably my top three overall going into FA in Grant Williams, Paul Reed, and PJ Washington.

Bad news: they?re all RFA so it?ll either be a gamble or a SNT and that will take 3+ days to settle.

If we want UFA there?s also Miles Bridges (ugh) and Dillon Brooks (gag)

Miles Bridges fits perfect but there would be a public outcry if they signed him.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Gabe Vincent took their MLE
Cam Reddish 2 year vet minimum
Taurean Prince 4.5 bi annual exception
Hachimura Bird Rights

Reeves offered the max at 4 years 52 million

Jeez, Lakers have absolutely killed the offseason so far. If Lebron and AD are healthy, they're going to be dangerous next season. That's a big if though.

[dirt_dobber]

David Lord@David_Lord_2020
Some notes about the Mavs and where they stand on the cap so far in free agency:
1 They have committed BAE to Curry
2 That means ultimately they will be hard capped by Apron 1
3 Contrary to what you read elsewhere, they still have PLENTY of room to offer full MLE. Period.
Mavs have commitments to 12 players so far. If you add the full MLE and 1 minimum player, they'd have the 14 players the NBA requires. TOTAL Salary for that? About 170.9M.
The Apron 1 limit (the "hard cap") is 172.34M. Plenty of room.

[Thespiralgoeson]

When the Mavs drafted Lively, I heard a lot of talking heads say it was a bad pick, for no other reason that he's a center, and centers are a dime a dozen in today's NBA. There's a "glut" of centers in the NBA. Like running backs in the NFL, you can always just get a decent one for cheap, therefore you should never use a high draft pick on a center, short of a generational talent like Wembanyama. That was the argument I heard over and over and over again.

The absolute garbage out that seems to be readily available for the center position just hammers home how absolutely idiotic that argument is. There is a glut of mediocre crap out there. The league is full of Javale McGee's and Willie Cauley-Stein's. There is absolutely not a "glut" of actually good players at that position.

[Amarelooms]

Originally Posted by dirt_dobber

David Lord@David_Lord_2020
Some notes about the Mavs and where they stand on the cap so far in free agency:
1 They have committed BAE to Curry
2 That means ultimately they will be hard capped by Apron 1
3 Contrary to what you read elsewhere, they still have PLENTY of room to offer full MLE. Period.
Mavs have commitments to 12 players so far. If you add the full MLE and 1 minimum player, they'd have the 14 players the NBA requires. TOTAL Salary for that? About 170.9M.
The Apron 1 limit (the "hard cap") is 172.34M. Plenty of room.

Talk to me. Who is left worth the mle? Probably should split it for 2 players?

[tap2390]

Grant Williams for MLE. Powell and Pinson back on min deals. Continue to try and move McGee, Maxi, and THJ. Boom.

Luka - Curry - Pinson - (2-way)
Kyrie - Hardy - THJ
Green - Bull - Lawson (2-way)
GWill - OMax - Maxi - Powell
Holmes - Lively - McGee

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Strus to Cleveland for 4/63. Miami lost two big pieces. Will they get Lillard?

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

When the Mavs drafted Lively, I heard a lot of talking heads say it was a bad pick, for no other reason that he's a center, and centers are a dime a dozen in today's NBA. There's a "glut" of centers in the NBA. Like running backs in the NFL, you can always just get a decent one for cheap, therefore you should never use a high draft pick on a center, short of a generational talent like Wembanyama. That was the argument I heard over and over and over again.

The absolute garbage out that seems to be readily available for the center position just hammers home how absolutely idiotic that argument is. There is a glut of mediocre crap out there. The league is full of Javale McGee's and Willie Cauley-Stein's. There is absolutely not a "glut" of actually good players at that position.

I'm not as enamored with Lively as others are.

I really liked Hendricks and Utah for some strange reason jumped on him. I think he's going to eventually fit that long athletic PF mode of guys like Gordon, Grant and Vanderbilt guys who can offer great defensive flexibility with matchups.

Hopefully Lively develops but he looks about 3 years away from being a legit starting center if he pans out.

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Jeez, Lakers have absolutely killed the offseason so far. If Lebron and AD are healthy, they're going to be dangerous next season. That's a big if though.

They did that something at the trade deadline this season. They went out and got multiple guys that boosted up their depth and made them a much better team

I'm hoping the mavs can add like 2 bigger wing players that can defend

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Yeah, we still need a starting center. 10 plus years and we still can't manage to figure that damn position out. Can't hope that Holmes returns to form or Lively can be good right out of the gate. And dear god, no Powell starting.

Drummond made some sense, but I haven't heard anything since he opted in.

Zubac and J. Allen seem like pipe dreams.

[saclare]

Yikes, I know there?s been a lot of Bane fans here, but good god that contract is going to end whatever run the Grizzlies have had.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

And the damn Lakers get yet another player. Jaxon Hayes is a lowkey good signing.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

DSJ to the Nets. Woulda rather had him over Seth Curry for the defense. C'est la vie.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

DSJ to the Nets. Woulda rather had him over Seth Curry for the defense. C'est la vie.

Again, I?m still operating on the assumption that the Mavs are really trying to move THJ. If that happens, then Seth?s shooting all of a sudden becomes quite valuable.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Again, I?m still operating on the assumption that the Mavs are really trying to move THJ. If that happens, then Seth?s shooting all of a sudden becomes quite valuable.

True. I can only go by what has happened though versus everyone assuming THJ will be moved.

[EricaLubarsky]

Good day for Elon to break Twitter

[tap2390]

Lakers have had a good offseason (especially the Gabe Vincent signing). But Jesus Christ people act like they?ve signed prime Jordan every time they sign some mediocre young journeyman that had their QO pulled by their former team 😂.

Like who gives a sh!t about Reddish or Hayes? Those guys don?t move the needle.

[EricaLubarsky]

Ha!

Lillard waits until after his buddy Jerami was laid to request a trade.

True bro

[Murphy3]

Adding an all time elite shooter on the cheap is just about always a good move.

[BPo001]

Damian Lillard has requested a trade from the Portland Trailblazers. @ChrisBHaynes first

[EricaLubarsky]

Nice job, Elon

[DevinHarriswillstart]

I would so back out of that contract if I were Portland. Don't pull a Messly Matthews like the Mavs did.

[Dallas41]

Originally Posted by tap2390

Lakers have had a good offseason (especially the Gabe Vincent signing). But Jesus Christ people act like they?ve signed prime Jordan every time they sign some mediocre young journeyman that had their QO pulled by their former team 😂.

Like who gives a sh!t about Reddish or Hayes? Those guys don?t move the needle.

I'm guessing no one felt that moves at the trade deadline was going to move the needle either and they ended up in the WCF's


I see value in their moves this offseason because it just continues to add to their depth

So when you say it doesn't move the needle keep in mind they were already one of the last two teams standing in western conference just 2 months ago

[Melonhead]

Time for nba drama to move to a different social media platform

We?re only allowed to view 600 posts per day lol

If you buy the verified account you get 6000 posts per day


Beginning of the end thankfully

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Elon is really nuking twitter huh? Wondered why I kept getting rate limit bs. What a fucking idiot.

Yeah, it's time to move on anyway. So much for "freedom of speech."

[Amarelooms]

How are lakers signing russel too???? WTH

[EricaLubarsky]

Twitter tip:

To avoid paying $115 a year, just create multiple accounts and access it on browser and app. You get 600 tweets per account per portal.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Twitter tip:

To avoid paying $115 a year, just create multiple accounts and access it on browser and app. You get 600 tweets per account per portal.

Never mind. That got me like 12 seconds of Twitter

[sig]

I'd take Grant for 30 mil per year and 4 years. That's bargain compared to Bane. I like Bane but Grant shot 40% from 3 and averaged 20 ppg and plays D. 20 ppg scorers are pretty common. Bane at 21 ppg was around 40th in league scoring and his defense is so meh. Laker focused a bit on him defensively and he dropped to 31% in playoffs. Bane is a class act so he should thank Brooks and Ja for staining the Griz image.

What is Green going to get next year if his game continues to progress?

[DevinHarriswillstart]

If you spam the retry button it works. So annoying on the first day of FA.

Well from MFFL's twitter account, who half the time doesn't post sources, said the Mavs were looking for a starting center per Stein.

That puts my mind as ease. This really could be Nico's masterpiece this summer.

[EricaLubarsky]

Found a work around:

Quit Twitter and follow Shams and Woj on Insta

No limits there

[EricaLubarsky]

Brook Lopez 2/48

Ouch

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Wow, Austin Reeves 4/56. 14 mil a year for him is ridiculous. Surprised he didn't just play a year and get more.

[EricaLubarsky]

Lamello Max

Ouch

60mill more than Luka

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Man, twitter must have melted Shams brain. Said a trade between Atlanta and Houston but doesn't say what Houston is getting. Hopefully not fricken' Capela.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Man, twitter must have melted Shams brain. Said a trade between Atlanta and Houston but doesn't say what Houston is getting. Hopefully not fricken' Capela.

Tyty and Geruba for second round picks