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Dallas41 · 04-06-2023, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Fvck. I love to win. The idea of the team tanking was never going to happen. Not with this roster and any hope they have of keeping Kyrie around...or keeping Luka happy.

I'm assuming the majority of us that are ok with tanking out to keep the pick is mostly because its so damn dire when the outcome is reliant on other teams losing. It's very situational. If you control your own destiny, then sure go for it. That's where we were with about 10 games left. There's also the fact that we have huge flaws that DEFEND our chances at REBOUNDING this season as contenders.

I'm on the books for:
No man's land - No pick no play in
2-7 at the 9 game mark
Spurs of all teams knocking us out of the play in.

Hopefully at least 2 of those predictions are wrong.

Come on man even with all the shitty play this year by Dallas you still have to wish for them to make it into the play in tournament as a die hard and then who knows what might happen if Luka and Kyrie get hot and play their best basketball

I might be in the minority but I'm going root like hell for OKC to lose 1 or 2 more games.

Let's go Utah and Memphis lol

SMC0007 · 04-06-2023, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

Come on man even with all the shitty play this year by Dallas you still as a die hard fan have to wish for them to make in the plsy in tournament and then who knows what might happen if Luka and Kyrie get hot and play their best basketball

I might be in the minority but I'm going root like hell for OKC to lose 1 or 2 more games.

Let's go Utah and Memphis lol

You arent in the minority anymore!

Anything can happen for a few games or MAYBE a series perhaps but there is absolutely zero chance we are true contenders even if Luka and Kyrie are both in Ludacris mode.

But yea, its on 100% now, we have to win out and hope OKC collapses under the pressure. There's nothing else to root for.

EricaLubarsky · 04-06-2023, 12:10 AM

This draft is so bad, maybe it?s a good thing

Melonhead · 04-06-2023, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

This draft is so bad, maybe it?s a good thing

the draft is considered strong this year through the lottery picks

DevinHarriswillstart · 04-06-2023, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

the draft is considered strong this year through the lottery picks

That's called denial.

Giving the Knicks the 11th-12th pick this year when we had the 10th or higher in the bag would be a colossal failure on par with everything else this dumb shit team does.

Dallas41 · 04-06-2023, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

That's called denial.

Giving the Knicks the 11th-12th pick this year when we had the 10th or higher in the bag would be a colossal failure on par with everything else this dumb shit team does.

Depends on how you view it

They can now also trade 25 & 27 1st round picks If needed to complete a trade for another high level player

Which they wouldn't have been able to do had they retained their pick this year

With Luka you need to be in wide now and chances are the draft pick wasn't going to be a guy who contributed to that right away

Melonhead · 04-06-2023, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

Depends on how you view it

They can now also trade 25 & 27 1st round picks If needed to complete a trade for another high level player

Which they wouldn't have been able to do had they retained their pick this year

With Luka you need to be in wide now and chances are the draft pick wasn't going to be a guy who contributed to that right away

Mavs are in win now this season and theyre an 11 seed. At best play in and no playoff series. Mavs can keep the pick and still be in win now.

Always trading away draft picks is a fool proof way this team will never be sustainably good. especially when you have an owner who lives off free agency guys but never wants to pay them market value.

Would be great to get rim protection or wing defender in the draft. there are top 10 guys that could contribute next season.

FreshJive · 04-06-2023, 05:51 AM

I just think that if Jalen Brunson were still a Maverick, my life would be better.

EricaLubarsky · 04-06-2023, 09:25 AM

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I just think that if Jalen Brunson were still a Maverick, my life would be better.

he's basically Kyrie so we'd still have DFS, Spence and the unprotected 2029 pick

Not sure we'd be significantly better this season, but we'd at least have our future picks and lockerroom guys.

But who knows, maybe the defense collapsed from lack of accountability and that started with Luka failing his assignments and he failed his assignments because he was working too hard on offense so maybe having Brunson could have been the difference between a top seed and...this.

Dallas41 · 04-06-2023, 10:24 AM

Huge difference between this game and the Atlanta game down the stretch

One Luka didn't stop Kyrie from scoring. What I mean by that is kyrie was killing it on Atlanta but the mavs didn't go to him down the stretch consistently doing that game.

Luka actually let kyrie shoot the technical FT which was huge because had anyone else shot that ft it most likely would have been a miss and the lead would have been 3 points as opposed to 4 points on that final Sacramento possession after Luka made that dumb late game foul.

Kyrie seems to have more stamina than Luka and driving to the basket is a priority to him in 4th qtrs. I think when he's cooking like that Luka just needs to committ more to playing off ball or go into the post more where he's almost automatic vs smaller guys but for some reason the mavs simply won't use Luka on the blocks. He's just as good as any of the top bigs at scoring download but it's a weapon the mavs sparingly use on offense

Luka could be the inside scoring threat this team needs especially with kyrie here to handle the ball now in close games instead of jacking up 3's all the time

Dallas41 · 04-06-2023, 06:45 PM

Hopefully Sacramento can keep the heat on Memphis for that 2nd seed

That will possibly force Memphis to play their starters on Sunday's finale vs OKC

DevinHarriswillstart · 04-07-2023, 07:51 PM

Luka 0-5. I hope he is doing this on purpose now to stick it to Cuban.

Melonhead · 04-07-2023, 08:16 PM

Mavs gonna win tonight lol.

DevinHarriswillstart · 04-07-2023, 08:17 PM

Javale 4-4 lmao. Good. F Cuban.

tap2390 · 04-07-2023, 08:26 PM

Lol. We're going to win this game we're trying to tank by playing role players that should have played earlier in the season. The irony.

DevinHarriswillstart · 04-07-2023, 09:03 PM

Markief Morris can play. Amazing what happens when guys get minutes.

Dallas41 · 04-07-2023, 09:13 PM

Lol

Anyone that is playing well kidd is benching or limiting their minutes

What a fucking joke deliberately trying to lose

FreshJive · 04-07-2023, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

Lol

Anyone that is playing well kidd is benching or limiting their minutes

What a fucking joke deliberately trying to lose

Memphis won, so no chance OKC loses.

purplefrog · 04-08-2023, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

Lol

Anyone that is playing well kidd is benching or limiting their minutes

What a fucking joke deliberately trying to lose

I felt for McGee and Morris in this game. Kidd/Cuban are saying they are not good enough to play when the games are meaningful and too good to play when the Mavs are supposed to lose. AND the group that finished the game must have played 1.5 quarters straight without a rest. They were totally gassed. This is an all time low for the Mavs organization. A total disgrace. I understand the tank, get the pick scenario but still this is a terrible message that further messes with the players' psyche. This was the cherry on the sundae for one of the worst seasons in Mavs history.

Dallas41 · 04-08-2023, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

I felt for McGee and Morris in this game. Kidd/Cuban are saying they are not good enough to play when the games are meaningful and too good to play when the Mavs are supposed to lose. AND the group that finished the game must have played 1.5 quarters straight without a rest. They were totally gassed. This is an all time low for the Mavs organization. A total disgrace. I understand the tank, get the pick scenario but still this is a terrible message that further messes with the players' psyche. This was the cherry on the sundae for one of the worst seasons in Mavs history.

McGee was not as bad as some fans might think and I felt the mavs handled the situation with him terrible.

This dude performed well as a backup big on several finals team and your telling me he couldn't get at least equal minutes to Dwight Powell all year.

This organization watched Powell get destroyed by kevon Looney in last years wcf's and yet decided they were going live and die with him again this year.

The game vs Miami Powell was being abused by a 3rd string center who was never on a nba roster most the year and the mavs still refused to play Mcgee.

I personally wish the league does fine their ass for tanking and tbh I wouldn't even care if it cost them a draft pick on top of it.

The FO for this organization led by Cuban is a joke anyway

They only traded for kyrie in order to quiet down the outside noise they were getting.

Cuban don't really give a fuck and I think he truly just wants to build a team but keep it under the luxury tax and use Luka to keep the sell outs going

He failed Dirk after the title team years and he's doing the same approach with Luka

DevinHarriswillstart · 04-07-2023, 09:16 PM

LMAO i love that they benched Hardy and the others are stepping up.

BPo001 · 04-07-2023, 09:23 PM

Why did they dress Luka only to sit him after 1 quarter? Just screwing up his PPG average for the season.

FreshJive · 04-07-2023, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Why did they dress Luka only to sit him after 1 quarter? Just screwing up his PPG average for the season.

Slovenian night

FreshJive · 04-07-2023, 10:08 PM

https://twitter.com/worldwidewob/sta...aljbGnYAPVuLHw

Prime Wes Matthews. Kyrie trying not to laugh.

buddha08 · 04-07-2023, 11:55 PM

I could never root for any team?Mavs or otherwise?below .500 to earn a play-in birth. I absolutely hate this whole play-in idea. It diminishes the regular season and muddies the water of the playoffs when we should be focusing on good teams that earned a right to be there. Ughhhhh.

buddha08 · 04-08-2023, 12:05 AM

And for those arguing in this thread or other threads that the players are competitors and want to win, regardless of the draft implications , I disagree. I suspect they know they don?t deserve to be in the playoffs with a losing record. They have to know they haven?t earned a right to compete for a championship. The play-in is stupid.

DevinHarriswillstart · 04-08-2023, 11:17 AM

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And for those arguing in this thread or other threads that the players are competitors and want to win, regardless of the draft implications , I disagree. I suspect they know they don?t deserve to be in the playoffs with a losing record. They have to know they haven?t earned a right to compete for a championship. The play-in is stupid.

100% agree. They had 82 games to compete harder. Losing to the worst team in the league (Charlotte) without their three best players means you don't deserve it.

rimrocker · 04-08-2023, 10:08 AM

I've liked AJ Lawson ever since he played for our summer league and think this is a guy we can develop like DFS and Green.
He is a very good shooter and his quick leaping ability reminds of guys like Rodman and Marion.
Hope we can bring him back

DevinHarriswillstart · 04-08-2023, 11:30 AM

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Tim MacMahon told ESPN, that Cuban was ?non-commital? when asked ?will the Mavericks be outbid for Kyrie? after they can give him the longest and the largest contract. He also said, if the Mavs aren?t able to re-sign Kyrie Irving, it will be another massive blow.

LMAO would be hilarious if Cuban cheaped out in trying to keep Kyrie.

EricaLubarsky · 04-08-2023, 12:27 PM

Word is if things don?t improve, Luka is going to give it one more year and will ask out in 2024 if this next year is a shitstorm.

Honestly don?t blame him.

This is the most important off-season in Mavs history. Nico will fail miserably or establish his legacy by September.

rimrocker · 04-09-2023, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Word is if things don?t improve, Luka is going to give it one more year and will ask out in 2024 if this next year is a shitstorm.

Honestly don?t blame him.

This is the most important off-season in Mavs history. Nico will fail miserably or establish his legacy by September.

With few options, if any, to put a decent team around Luka, we may not have a choice at this point.

I'm beginning to think that 2024 pick could very well be better than this year's pick so the whole tanking strategy could really backfire on Cuban.

DevinHarriswillstart · 04-08-2023, 02:12 PM

LMFAO the league is investigating our choice to tank last night.

Does Cuban do anything that isn't totally embarrassing all the time?

purplefrog · 04-08-2023, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

LMFAO the league is investigating our choice to tank last night.

Does Cuban do anything that isn't totally embarrassing all the time?

The fact is, I agree with the NBA. Cuban is getting more and more intolerable with his antics and poor decision-making. He should just hang out with his Shark Tank buddies and let Nico run the ship.

Zeus · 04-08-2023, 03:16 PM

Agree with Erica from a while back... We might need to consider the nuclear option... I won't even say it but if we convey the pick and Kyrie walks then DETONATE! Sorry Erica for doubting you in the past.

tap2390 · 04-09-2023, 06:09 AM

?24 pick is also protected. The reason we need to tank is we have limited options to add talent around Luka and Kyrie. Personally would like us to use the pick on Jarace Walker or Taylor Hendricks, then sign Naz Reid to be our five.

Luka
Kyrie
Green
Walker/ Hendricks
Reid

Zeus · 04-09-2023, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

?24 pick is also protected. The reason we need to tank is we have limited options to add talent around Luka and Kyrie. Personally would like us to use the pick on Jarace Walker or Taylor Hendricks, then sign Naz Reid to be our five.

Luka
Kyrie
Green
Walker/ Hendricks
Reid

Interesting tweak to the lineup and potentially way tougher and physical. Where is Hardy in this hypothetical? Traded away or coming off the bench for an offensive spark?

tap2390 · 04-09-2023, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeus

Interesting tweak to the lineup and potentially way tougher and physical. Where is Hardy in this hypothetical? Traded away or coming off the bench for an offensive spark?

Hardy would be 6th man in that scenario -- assuming he comes back much stronger.

SMC0007 · 04-09-2023, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

?24 pick is also protected. The reason we need to tank is we have limited options to add talent around Luka and Kyrie. Personally would like us to use the pick on Jarace Walker or Taylor Hendricks, then sign Naz Reid to be our five.

Luka
Kyrie
Green
Walker/ Hendricks
Reid

Naz Reid is a baller. I'd like to upgrade to a better starting 2 way wing over Green if we are sticking with Kyrie. Luka and Kyrie aren't going to be stopping anybody.

Melonhead · 04-09-2023, 10:15 AM

I just don?t know if Mavs can lose today.

And now that okc is sitting everyone, still a high chance this whole thing blows up in their face

EricaLubarsky · 04-09-2023, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Melonhead

I just don?t know if Mavs can lose today.

And now that okc is sitting everyone, still a high chance this whole thing blows up in their face

With the NBA breathing down our neck because Kidd is a f***king moron.

If we win, we can still keep 10 if other teams win, or if Bulls somehow win against Raptors and the Heat/Hawks