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EricaLubarsky · 06-17-2017, 05:45 PM

Thursday is coming so fast! I am so hyped.

Underdog · 06-17-2017, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by yahyes

Okay then I'll assume Dennis smith gets drafted. Even if there's no workouts or detail from the front office about their interest in him.

@AdamZagoria: The Knicks, Miami, Minnesota, Detroit, Charlotte and Dallas were among the teams who saw NC State PG Dennis Smith today at his workout

Underdog · 06-17-2017, 07:44 PM

I'd be delighted if we landed Smith Jr...

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-17-2017, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

I'd be delighted if we landed Smith Jr...

Why do this to yourself? You're just going to get the boards shut down again when pinky announces Lauri as our pick.

sefant77 · 06-17-2017, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Awful lot to give up when you can get a really good player at 3. I personally think Boston wants Jackson, but thinks they can trade down and gain assets in the process.

Adrian Wojnarowski: Discussions have centered on Sixers sending 2017 No. 3, 2018 Lakers pick, and possibly 2021 1st — including complicated protections.
– via Twitter WojVerticalNBA

Yeah but Fultz is a really really great fit beside Embiid and Simmons. Thats what they need the most, a high dynamic scoring guard....

Underdog · 06-17-2017, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Yeah but Fultz is a really really great fit beside Embiid and Simmons. Thats what they need the most, a high dynamic scoring guard....

If they end up being able to keep Isaiah Thomas and add Josh Jackson, that might be worth Fultz right there... But if Philly throws in those rumored 2018 & 2021 first-rounders, then it's a no-brainer.

sefant77 · 06-17-2017, 09:12 PM

I think its a pick trade that really makes a lot of sense for both teams.

Fultz is a perfect fit for the Sixers and a not so great fit for Boston + Jackson is a great fit for Boston (or even Taytum if the Lakers draft Jackson)

sefant77 · 06-17-2017, 09:45 PM

Trade is done

Sixers picking Fultz and Celtics hoping for Jackson at #3 (or Tatum) or trading #3...

hayth.james.g · 06-17-2017, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Trade is done

Sixers picking Fultz and Celtics hoping for Jackson at #3 (or Tatum)

Right move for the Celtics. Right move for the Sixers.

If Sixers can get these young guys healthy, they will be fun to watch the next few years.

Underdog · 06-17-2017, 10:01 PM

Yep, not a bad trade at all... Boston stocking up on picks again.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-18-2017, 06:49 AM

Keep an eye on who Minny drafts. If they pick Frank, then it could mean we have a trade with them...esp if we pick Lauri.

BPo001 · 06-18-2017, 08:06 AM

Mike Fisher: #Mavs have had in-house talks about the trade availability of #Timberwolves PG Ricky Rubio – and about drafting PG Frank Ntilikina, too. – via Twitter fishsports

EricaLubarsky · 06-18-2017, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

Mike Fisher: #Mavs have had in-house talks about the trade availability of #Timberwolves PG Ricky Rubio – and about drafting PG Frank Ntilikina, too. – via Twitter fishsports

Two thoughts:

Ewwwwww

Yay!

tap2390 · 06-18-2017, 09:45 AM

Ahh yes the good 'ol Mike Fisher confirmation of what everyone has already known for ages.

NO to any trade for Rubio that doesn't also net us #7.

rimrocker · 06-18-2017, 10:11 AM

So maybe I'm overthinking this but doesn't the Celts/Sixers trade possibly benefit us indirectly?

Celts obviously not taking a PG means there is one less team picking one ahead of us which increases the possibility that one slips to us.

Perhaps I'm missing something but that is the way I see it.

EricaLubarsky · 06-18-2017, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

So maybe I'm overthinking this but doesn't the Celts/Sixers trade possibly benefit us indirectly?

Celts obviously not taking a PG means there is one less team picking one ahead of us which increases the possibility that one slips to us.

Perhaps I'm missing something but that is the way I see it.

No. Only thing that changes is Philly takes Fultz #1 and Celtics take Jackson #3. Celtics were only going to take Fultz as trade bait since they like IT. They really wanted Josh, so the only thing that changes here is Philly is guaranteed Fultz and Celtics get future picks.

Before
BOS->Fultz
LAL-> Fox
PHI-> Jackson

BOS looks to trade Fultz for vets/talent

After
PHI-> Fultz
LAL->Fox
BOS-> Jackson

and BOS has future pick

BPo001 · 06-18-2017, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

No. Only thing that changes is Philly takes Fultz #1 and Celtics take Jackson #3. Celtics were only going to take Fultz as trade bait since they like IT. They really wanted Josh, so the only thing that changes here is Philly is guaranteed Fultz and Celtics get future picks.

Before
BOS->Fultz
LAL-> Fox
PHI-> Jackson

BOS looks to trade Fultz for vets/talent

After
PHI-> Fultz
LAL->Fox
BOS-> Jackson

and BOS has future pick

That's assuming Boston keeps the pick.

Ramona Shelburne: General league reaction to Sixers-Celtics trade: There’s a reason it’s happening early. Both teams still maneuvering. – via Twitter ramonashelburne

EricaLubarsky · 06-18-2017, 02:21 PM

Dear god

Underdog · 06-18-2017, 02:48 PM

Boston is doing it right.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-18-2017, 03:06 PM

Ainge knows how to get picks. It's just a matter of time before he cashes them into Butler/George/Hayward or perhaps two of those. Possibilities are endless.

BPo001 · 06-18-2017, 04:02 PM

All-Star forward Paul George has informed the Indiana Pacers that he plans to become a free agent in the summer of 2018 and will leave the franchise – preferably for the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources told The Vertical.

sefant77 · 06-18-2017, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Ainge knows how to get picks. It's just a matter of time before he cashes them into Butler/George/Hayward or perhaps two of those. Possibilities are endless.

Rumors are that the Celtics using the #3 to get Butler. Add Hayward in FA and you got a really really nice team and still a shitload of picks.

Thomas
Hayward
Butler
Horford

mac222b · 06-18-2017, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Rumors are that the Celtics using the #3 to get Butler. Add Hayward in FA and you got a really really nice team and still a shitload of picks.

Thomas
Hayward
Butler
Horford

Wonder if they are giving Bradley or Smart? Doubt they'd include Jaylen Brown. That cat's for real. If it #3, Smart and Brown that's a lot to give up.

mac222b · 06-18-2017, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

All-Star forward Paul George has informed the Indiana Pacers that he plans to become a free agent in the summer of 2018 and will leave the franchise – preferably for the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources told The Vertical.

Man, Indy really missed their window to trade Paul George. Pointless pursuit of meaningless playoff spot strikes again. Sound familiar?

Should've taken whatever Ainge likely offered. Even if it was one pick and one player. Now they get a disgruntled Kevin Love rental, best case. Though I suppose the Cleveland rumours could leverage a deal with LAL. Not likely though.

rimrocker · 06-18-2017, 09:18 PM

Christ....DraftExpress has Ntilikina at #14 now.

Wonder what happened?

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2017/

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-18-2017, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

Christ....DraftExpress has Ntilikina at #14 now.

Wonder what happened?

http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2017/

I think it's a safe bet that the Knicks pick him. And that means Monk is the most likely to be available at 9. We should all be pretty happy about that pick.

I know it's fun to talk of trading back and what not, but I think the Mavs stay in the top 9. Mitchell is also worth a look, but Monk is the safer bet.

MavzMan · 06-19-2017, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Boston is doing it right.

I want to see an entire first round of Boston picks!

"In order to save time, with the first round of the 2024 NBA Draft, the Boston Celtics pick: Player A, Player B, Player C, Player D, Player E, .... "

SMC0007 · 06-19-2017, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Sounds like the Celtics are intent on keeping IT, maybe grab something of use while moving down a couple spots to get Jackson.

I thought all along they take Jackson, regardless if they moved down or not...Even If they can't find a trade to add an athletic big or at least upgrade the center position.

saclare · 06-19-2017, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hayth.james.g

It makes sense. They continue to gain future assets while picking the best fit and wing in the draft. People act like Jackson isn't a stud. Guy is a phenomenal talent.

I think Jackson is a better fit for Boston and is absolutely in the conversation for best player in the draft.

saclare · 06-19-2017, 09:46 AM

Lol I envy Boston now. What a turnaround. It helped that Brooklyn was so stupid a few years back, but even that LAC 2019 pick might turn out to be lottery. That would be perfect for DeAndra.

rimrocker · 06-19-2017, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

I thought all along they take Jackson, regardless if they moved down or not...Even If they can't find a trade to add an athletic big or at least upgrade the center position.

Boston should be patient with getting a big....there are two extremely good centers (Bamba and Ayton) that will most likely come out in the draft next season and that Brooklyn pick should put them in a position for one of them.

And completely agree about Jackson....great fit for them and has a decent chance to be the best player coming out of this draft.
I don't see Lakers taking him with Ingram being there and George most likely coming to them so that was a brilliant move by Ainge.

SMC0007 · 06-19-2017, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

Boston should be patient with getting a big....there are two extremely good centers (Bamba and Ayton) that will most likely come out in the draft next season and that Brooklyn pick should put them in a position for one of them.

And completely agree about Jackson....great fit for them and has a decent chance to be the best player coming out of this draft.
I don't see Lakers taking him with Ingram being there and George most likely coming to them so that was a brilliant move by Ainge.

Hmm, I'm not sure how patient I would be. Maybe if Olynyk plays like he did in the last series. Otherwise, that team is as ready as anyone in the East. They get a solid big they have a great chance at playing the Warriors next finals. I wouldn't wait around for a rookie next year to help.

saclare · 06-19-2017, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Hmm, I'm not sure how patient I would be. Maybe if Olynyk plays like he did in the last series. Otherwise, that team is as ready as anyone in the East. They get a solid big they have a great chance at playing the Warriors next finals. I wouldn't wait around for a rookie next year to help.

It will be very hard for them to do anything to upgrade their center position this year. Is anyone available via trades, FA, or the draft, with respect to their draft position, that makes sense and that much more of an impact? I don't know...

EricaLubarsky · 06-19-2017, 12:38 PM

interesting

EricaLubarsky · 06-19-2017, 12:40 PM

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-19-2017, 01:02 PM

Frank is such a Donnie pick that it's almost too obvious. I can't imagine that you'd hire that coach and Frank not be the pick.

It's gonna be a great night though because the backup plan Monk is just as sexy.

Melonhead · 06-19-2017, 01:16 PM

So what do we do about NY? Obvious Mavs want Frank but if he's not there, he's not there.

Bryan_Wilson · 06-19-2017, 01:19 PM

https://twitter.com/NateDuncanNBA/st...62049866792960

I like Frank. But I'm not gonna lie if DSJ is there and we pick Frank I'll be sad.

EricaLubarsky · 06-19-2017, 01:24 PM

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Knicks still focused on Frank Ntilikina with the No. 8 overall pick

Yeah he can like us all he wants, but Knicks pick first

EricaLubarsky · 06-19-2017, 01:26 PM

76 hours