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Big Boy Laroux · 10-07-2008, 12:03 PM

um, flaco, haven't you been watching? It's TRACY, not nikki.

u2sarajevo · 10-08-2008, 12:56 PM

That was excellent.

Fun.

Also, I thought Peter had Claire's abilities.... yet he doesn't heal anymore.

Flacolaco · 10-08-2008, 01:00 PM

Wasn't the Hatian there when he got shot?

Also, I read that the producers said (I'll try to find it) that the Company definitely has ability stopping technology...so presumably it's there in the future? I don't know.

Or would he only heal if they pulled the bullets out? I can't remember the rules, or anything. Stupid writers strike.

u2sarajevo · 10-08-2008, 01:07 PM

I'm talking about when Peter was with Nathan(president) and he had his ability to read minds and choke hold without touching.... yet his chest was still a bloody mess.

Kirobaito · 10-08-2008, 01:16 PM

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I'm talking about when Peter was with Nathan(president) and he had his ability to read minds and choke hold without touching.... yet his chest was still a bloody mess.

The Haitian was there when Claire was torturing him. Nathan made everyone leave, and Peter's wounds healed, but the blood would still be there.

Flacolaco · 10-08-2008, 01:16 PM

Where have all the Heroes apologists been this week? It was actually good this week.

Maybe they'll explain it to us, u2.

fluid.forty.one · 10-08-2008, 01:42 PM

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Wasn't the Hatian there when he got shot?

good call.. I was wondering why future peter went down so easy.

Big Boy Laroux · 10-08-2008, 02:13 PM

right, any blood that was spilled doesn't get sucked back in. It's still on the outside of his body.

As for future peter - Hatian was there when he got shot. I wonder that if the haitian is there by Peter after he gets shot, and cancels the healing power until peter is officially dead, does peter stay dead? Sure looked that way.

Dtownsfinest · 10-08-2008, 02:19 PM

I'm still trying to understand why future Peter has a scar on his face if he heals? Has that been answered already?

Big Boy Laroux · 10-08-2008, 02:20 PM

yeah, that's a big mystery. Maybe the haitian again? he's everywhere!

fluid.forty.one · 10-08-2008, 02:23 PM

but everyone keeps saying that claire "can't" die.. like its impossible. wouldnt it be the same for peter?

sike · 10-13-2008, 08:42 PM

and the hits just keep on rolling....any episode featuring this much Hiro/Claire/and "Tracy" just doesn't stand a chance...

remember when Hiro was more than just a silly cartoon character?

fluid.forty.one · 10-15-2008, 09:47 PM

was working monday night -- getting caught up now

fluid.forty.one · 10-15-2008, 10:33 PM

uhhhhhhh

hiro did not actually kill ando. it doesn't make any sense.

DavidDaMonkey · 10-16-2008, 08:42 AM

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uhhhhhhh

hiro did not actually kill ando. it doesn't make any sense.

Yeah, for a show that does everything it can to not have anyone be gone for good (case in point - Linderman) I HIGHLY doubt that Ando is gone.

I'm still convinced that the African dude is just Isaac and DL merged, that way they can still both be alive.

sike · 10-16-2008, 08:47 AM

rep Davd...

DavidDaMonkey · 10-16-2008, 08:48 AM

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not digging the african food/head phones giving parkman abilities.. kinda weird.

Yeah, what was the deal with that? Is this some dormant ability that Parkman had and he just needed some sort of placebo to access it (ala Space Jam) or does the African dude actually know some recipe that grants powers?

sike · 10-16-2008, 08:57 AM

so I basically hate Claire now....I tolerated her before because she seemed important to the plot...but now I have no compelling reason to watch the show when she is driving a scene.

fluid.forty.one · 10-20-2008, 11:45 PM

this episode has been pretty badass so far. even the claire part.

Flacolaco · 10-20-2008, 11:49 PM

I hate the Sylar stuff now....I need for him to be dressed in something black, menacing,....and be frightening as hell. Otherwise it just doesn't work.

The Hiro stuff was funny tonight.

Kill Suresh

Kill Nikki

Kill Claire

Kill them now....I hate all of them so very much.

Did Papa Patrelli take Peters original ability as well? Or just all the ones he has acquired since?

Usually Lurkin · 10-21-2008, 08:45 AM

man this show is good.

sike · 10-21-2008, 09:41 AM

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I hate the Sylar stuff now....

The only storyline of this season I like is Sylar trying to be good...

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The Hiro stuff was funny tonight.

Kill Suresh

Kill Nikki [Tracy]

Kill Claire

Kill them now....I hate all of them so very much.

agreed...worthless characters who drain the show's lifeforce

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Did Papa Patrelli take Peters original ability as well? Or just all the ones he has acquired since?

I think he took them all...much like Rouge he must touch you to take what you got. That would make Peter the next step in evolution because he takes your powers without touching...of course Peter doesn't drain you of yours...he just copies and pastes.

sike · 10-21-2008, 09:42 AM

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man this show is good.

I love you.

Usually Lurkin · 10-21-2008, 09:49 AM

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agreed...worthless characters who drain the show's lifeforce.

I think Suresh has definitely gotten more interesting. He's an actual evil guy now, though i'm sure he will stumble into a way of unwittingly helping someone he doesn't agree with.

Claire is moderately interesting. She doesn't seem to be pushing The Big Plot along, but she's developing, which is better, IMO.

Nikki/whoever could be dispensed with.

I like what they did with the British guy when Mr. Petrelli took his powers. Finally(!) they seem to get rid of a useless someone for real (of course, I've fallen for that before)

DavidDaMonkey · 10-21-2008, 10:24 AM

I missed the very beginning. How was Ando still alive?

mary · 10-21-2008, 10:33 AM

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I missed the very beginning. How was Ando still alive?

ACTING!

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DavidDaMonkey · 10-21-2008, 10:42 AM

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ACTING!

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I'm still confused, but rep nonetheless.

.....if rep worked

mary · 10-21-2008, 10:48 AM

Okay, here's a more detailed explanation.

Hiro stopped time and found a fake sword and some blood packets. He then went back in time and told Ando that he was going to pretend to kill him and that Ando needed to go along with it and play dead. Hiro then went back to the exact moment in time he was supposed to kill Ando and fake killed him and Ando pretended to be dead.

I know it sounds like I made that up, but its actually what happened.

DavidDaMonkey · 10-21-2008, 10:59 AM

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I think Suresh has definitely gotten more interesting. He's an actual evil guy now, though i'm sure he will stumble into a way of unwittingly helping someone he doesn't agree with.

Well of course he will. I always thought that was his power.

Flacolaco · 10-21-2008, 11:01 AM

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Okay, here's a more detailed explanation.

Hiro stopped time and found a fake sword and some blood packets. He then went back in time and told Ando that he was going to pretend to kill him and that Ando needed to go along with it and play dead. Hiro then went back to the exact moment in time he was supposed to kill Ando and fake killed him and Ando pretended to be dead.

I know it sounds like a made that up, but its actually what happened.

When you type it out like that, it sounds really cheesy and stupid, but I actually thought it was pretty funny on the screen.

Usually Lurkin · 10-21-2008, 11:34 AM

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ACTING!

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I am so sad that I can't rep you for this.

Usually Lurkin · 10-21-2008, 11:35 AM

I like how they explained the "time travel isn't always the solution" thing.
That was funny and clever.

fluid.forty.one · 10-21-2008, 02:08 PM

yeah, hiro was really funny this week.

I agree with most of flaco's post except I'm finding myself really liking Sylar this season, almost as much as when he's a bad guy. Also I kinda liked how Peter got way more powerful than good Sylar.. at least it's not the whole "sylar is unstoppable and the only villain" plot line again.

Flacolaco · 10-21-2008, 02:14 PM

I just don't feel any real suspense with this show any more. The first season we weren't sure what was going on, what was going to happen, who they'd kill, how often they'd kill...etc. When Sylar was on screen in season 1 it was at least a little intense.

Then there's that scene with the puppet guy last night...was there ever a single doubt in anyone's mind the exact instant you saw the gun on the table what was going to happen? It was so predictable and anti climactic I got up to make a sandwich. And it didn't advance the plot that I could tell. Of course Claire was going to end up shot...big deal.

We need some people with powers fighting other people with powers...we need some action. We need some real evil and we need some death. A lot of death. I know a lot of you don't like 24, but part of what made it great was the threat that anyone could die at any time (except Jack of course) They weren't afraid to kill anybody.

Usually Lurkin · 10-21-2008, 05:05 PM

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I just don't feel any real suspense with this show any more.

surely you didn't know what was going to happen with Mr. Petrelli, did you?

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Then there's that scene with the puppet guy last night......Of course Claire was going to end up shot...big deal.

eh, I call it down-time and am happy with it. Every season so far has had it's slow/useless plotlines. This one is much, much better than the south-american chick and her brother. I like it better than Clair's role in the first season also. At least she's developing psychologically at this point.

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We need some people with powers fighting other people with powers....

you mean like Peter v. Sylar or time traveling Hiro v. the precog? Yeah, they could lay on some more of that, but isn't it cooler now that Peter and Sylar are brothers - especially since Sylar is trying to turn over a new leaf (as poorly implemented as that may be)? Plus - Peter will get to have it out with his dad now. That's cool.

Flac, it just sounds like you let your expectations get way ahead of you. If you get into each episode without them (probably like you were doing first season), things might be better.

Dtownsfinest · 10-21-2008, 06:11 PM

I don't know Flac. Sounds like you're expecting X-Men the movie and I don't think that's the approach this show tries to take. After the first season I don't know why but I expected all of the Heroes to team up and stop Sylar. Sort of like the normal good vs. bad story. I've come to the conclusion this show is going in a completely different direction.

I'm enjoying this season. I like the fact that they've brought Villans into the mix especially Peter's father. So is he ageless and unbreakable like Claire since that is what Adam Monroe was? I don't care much for Suresh or Tracy's storylines but there definately upgrades over last season. Claire is standstill with me. Her powers make it really hard to enjoy her story since she can't do anything but heal herself. I think they're just doing the best they can with that and its not a bad approach.

I think I can sort of see where the Sylar story is going. I don't expect for him to be good for too much longer. I like it though. I've always liked Sylar's character good or bad though. I'm sure everyone thought he was going to be the main villian in this part of the season since its titled "Villains". I like how the writers took a different approach with him. Seems like Mr. Petrilli might be the most powerful of everyone with a ability. Knox seems to be powerful as well but he has to smell fear before his even work.

Ninkobei · 10-21-2008, 07:46 PM

okay, I have an issue...if Linderman is really just a mental illusion, who healed Senator Petrelli from future-peter's gunshot?

Dtownsfinest · 10-21-2008, 08:42 PM

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okay, I have an issue...if Linderman is really just a mental illusion, who healed Senator Petrelli from future-peter's gunshot?

I thought Claire's blood was the one that was bringing people back to life?

sike · 10-21-2008, 08:48 PM

I like the Sylar struggle for redemption...and Mr. Petrelli unveiling.

sike · 10-21-2008, 08:49 PM

I want to know when and how Mr. Petrelli went wrong...