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NeedlesKane · 01-04-2015, 10:44 AM

To me the Mavs have 3 options.

1. Jermaine O'Neal
2. Samuel Dalembert (soon to be waived)
3. Bernard James

They can also consider going for another big body but not necessarily a center in someone like Rashard Lewis.

Who else is available that makes sense?

Kenyon Martin?

howdoesmydirktaste · 01-04-2015, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

To me the Mavs have 3 options.

1. Jermaine O'Neal
2. Samuel Dalembert (soon to be waived)
3. Bernard James

They can also consider going for another big body but not necessarily a center in someone like Rashard Lewis.

Who else is available that makes sense?

Kenyon Martin?

I haven't seen a report that Dalembert is going to be waived. Where did you see that? I mean the guy wasn't amazing for us, but he had stretches here and there where he plugged in a hole for us (which is all we would be asking him to do).

EricaLubarsky · 01-04-2015, 11:56 AM

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fan...muel-dalembert

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by Larry Hartstein | CBSSports.com
Sun, 04 Jan 2015 9:46 AM ET

Knicks center Samuel Dalembert has dropped out of the rotation due to the play of Cole Aldrich, and the team could waive Dalembert to save money, reports the Boston Globe. Dalembert has $1.85 million guaranteed on his contract this season.

Currently nursing an ankle injury that's caused him to miss three straight games, Dalembert is averaging 4.0 points and 5.2 rebounds in 17 minutes per game.

G-Man · 01-04-2015, 12:06 PM

I would love to have Sam come back and play the backup role for which he is much better suited. He's good enough that we could cut Tyson's minutes, and he already knows the system, so no learning curve.

Maybe we really are getting the band back together.

rimrocker · 01-04-2015, 12:12 PM

Would love to get Dalembert back.. a perfect backup for Chandler.

If there is any way we could add him and Shumpert we'd be a solid team imo.

Sign Dalembert and then trade Ledo/Aminu (or Smith) for Shump...does that even have any chance?

grndmstr_c · 01-04-2015, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

The CBA prevents them from acquiring him *in any way*. Even if he's waived they can't sign him.

Same goes for Dalembert.

This post apparently needs to be bumped.

howdoesmydirktaste · 01-04-2015, 12:19 PM

As appealing as it is to go after JO, there's no guarantee he will be in basketball shape. JO definitely has the best upside, but it could take him a couple of months to really get the feel of the system. Sammy was here last year and he already grasps our system. Carlisle knows enough about the guy to light a fire under his ass. To me that sounds like our best option.

howdoesmydirktaste · 01-04-2015, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fan...muel-dalembert

Thanks

spreedom · 01-04-2015, 12:26 PM

I believe we're unable to re-acquire Dalembert until this summer, unless we trade for him. But TBH he was such a lazy asshole for us last season, I wouldn't even want him here as a backup. I would much prefer Sarge.

howdoesmydirktaste · 01-04-2015, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

I believe we're unable to re-acquire Dalembert until this summer, unless we trade for him. But TBH he was such a lazy asshole for us last season, I wouldn't even want him here as a backup. I would much prefer Sarge.

Fair enough. He had some stretches where he looked good, but yeah, he didn't exactly light it up.

EricaLubarsky · 01-04-2015, 02:45 PM

Smith now out with a muscle strain

endrity · 01-04-2015, 03:22 PM

We'll probably wait until the trade deadline or so to see if some really good option becomes available.

However, with this year's title seeming wide open I don't know if it's not better to just go with someone now that can learn the system a bit early rather than wait and lose out.

This year's title is certainly possible I think.

Eman · 01-05-2015, 10:54 AM

how about Dalembert Now?

Will Knicks nix Dalembert?
January, 4, 2015
JAN 4
12:39
PM ET
By Tom Carpenter | ESPN Insider
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Whatever hope that the New York Knicks had of being competitive this season is long gone. It's been replaced by losing 20 of 21 games, and with Carmelo Anthony's availability for the remainder of the season in doubt, the franchise already is looking beyond this season.

With that in mind, we may see them jettison some contracts, which would free up money and let them examine some other players.

"One player who could be available over the next few weeks is Knicks center Samuel Dalembert, who has only $1.85 million guaranteed on his contract this season and has fallen out of the rotation in New York with the improved play of Cole Aldrich," wrote Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe.

"Dalembert, 33, could help a playoff-caliber team in the second half of the season. The Knicks could waive Dalembert, save the remaining money, and allow him to become a free agent."

Dalembert largely has been a non-factor for the Knicks this season -- averaging just 4.0 PPG, 5.3 RPG and 1.3 BPG -- so his absence wouldn't impact their on-court production much. Still, it would open up a spot for the Knicks to look at younger options.

Underdog · 01-05-2015, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Eman

how about Dalembert Now?

Will Knicks nix Dalembert?
January, 4, 2015
JAN 4
12:39
PM ET
By Tom Carpenter | ESPN Insider
71COMMENTS2EMAILPRINT
Whatever hope that the New York Knicks had of being competitive this season is long gone. It's been replaced by losing 20 of 21 games, and with Carmelo Anthony's availability for the remainder of the season in doubt, the franchise already is looking beyond this season.

With that in mind, we may see them jettison some contracts, which would free up money and let them examine some other players.

"One player who could be available over the next few weeks is Knicks center Samuel Dalembert, who has only $1.85 million guaranteed on his contract this season and has fallen out of the rotation in New York with the improved play of Cole Aldrich," wrote Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe.

"Dalembert, 33, could help a playoff-caliber team in the second half of the season. The Knicks could waive Dalembert, save the remaining money, and allow him to become a free agent."

Dalembert largely has been a non-factor for the Knicks this season -- averaging just 4.0 PPG, 5.3 RPG and 1.3 BPG -- so his absence wouldn't impact their on-court production much. Still, it would open up a spot for the Knicks to look at younger options.

Mavs traded Samuel Dalembert for Tyson Chandler, and therefore are ineligible to sign him if he gets waived... I believe the earliest he could come back to Dallas would be this summer.

sefant77 · 01-05-2015, 11:44 AM

JO is in germany for treatments...should mean he is coming back soon instead of retirement

http://instagram.com/p/xemt0-HK2k/

Skywalker · 01-05-2015, 12:45 PM

Any news on Smith's condition?

mavsfan1000 · 01-05-2015, 01:06 PM

We need a backup center quick. And a backup PF as well though less of an issue.

G-Man · 01-05-2015, 01:09 PM

Uh oh dirk back at center with jjb at the 3.

Underdog · 01-05-2015, 01:14 PM

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Smith played 10 minutes in the game before leaving and he did not return.

Despite suffering the injury, Smith told reporters he expects to play in Monday's game at Brooklyn, according to the team's official website.

http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fan...-muscle-strain

Skywalker · 01-05-2015, 01:28 PM

howdoesmydirktaste · 01-05-2015, 01:35 PM

Is it just me or does Smith have the ultimate baby face? He looks like he's 4. I don't really care as long as he plays well. Just an observation.

grndmstr_c · 01-05-2015, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

We need a backup center quick. And a backup PF as well though less of an issue.

Why backup PF?

rimrocker · 01-05-2015, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by grndmstr_c

Why backup PF?

My thought as well.

Dirk/Charlie/Aminu/Parsons/Powell...doesn't get much deeper than that.
I'd be happy with KG if he ever becomes an option but other than that PF is about the last position we need to address.

jthig32 · 01-05-2015, 02:57 PM

I'm not sure I agree that backup PF is anywhere near our "last position we need to address", but I would agree that it's very unlikely to be addressed during this season.

EricaLubarsky · 01-05-2015, 03:08 PM

Backup PF? We have

Dirk/Aminu/Charlie/Powell and even the occasional Jefferson to cover that spot. We can't try to go six deep at a spot, when we can't go three deep at a more crucial one (center)

yahyes · 01-05-2015, 06:25 PM

I had asked about if we can scoop Dalembert back out of a joke weeks ago. Mainly cause the knicks are even more terrible this year. But I like how he's a viable option now. I saw that Jermaine is getting treatment in Germany? Maybe it's a hint to Dirk saying hey, I'll be in Dallas soon!

spreedom · 01-05-2015, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by yahyes

I had asked about if we can scoop Dalembert back out of a joke weeks ago. Mainly cause the knicks are even more terrible this year. But I like how he's a viable option now. I saw that Jermaine is getting treatment in Germany? Maybe it's a hint to Dirk saying hey, I'll be in Dallas soon!

He is NOT a viable option, unless we get him via trade, and I can't see the Mavs giving up anything resembling a useful asset for god damn Samuel Dalembert, after the fiasco that was his play last year.

Again, worth repeating: We cannot sign Dalembert as a free agent or claim him off of waivers at any time between now and the end of the season.

dude1394 · 01-05-2015, 08:01 PM

I am not really interested in sammy either.

mavsfan1000 · 01-05-2015, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

My thought as well.

Dirk/Charlie/Aminu/Parsons/Powell...doesn't get much deeper than that.
I'd be happy with KG if he ever becomes an option but other than that PF is about the last position we need to address.

Well Parsons and Aminu are SF. The other backups aren't proven. Just like Smith. But maybe backup PF isn't quite as important as backup C.

spreedom · 01-05-2015, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

Well Parsons and Aminu are SF. The other backups aren't proven. Just like Smith. But maybe backup PF isn't quite as important as backup C.

Aminu is best, defensively, as a SF, but offensively he has been much more effective at PF. My guess is, if he makes it back into the regular rotation, it would be as the third PF or 4th SF (after Parsons, Jefferson, Barea smallball, then Aminu). Depends on matchups.

I actually really like Aminu. I was advocating for the Mavs to spend the full MLE on him this summer, because I thought the market would be a lot stronger for him. But he has been absolutely awful from the perimeter this season, and his defense has been too inconsistent to keep him on the floor. I hope he turns thing around and plays closet to the way he did to start the season. I still think he has the potential to be a tremendous value at the league minimum.

sefant77 · 01-05-2015, 10:42 PM

JO is coming..its so freaking obvious..

HopeIsAlwaysThere · 01-05-2015, 10:51 PM

Btw, Sammy D got waived, any thoughts?

EricaLubarsky · 01-05-2015, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HopeIsAlwaysThere

Btw, Sammy D got waived, any thoughts?

He can't sign here since we traded them less than a year ago, right?

grndmstr_c · 01-05-2015, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mavsfan1000

Well Parsons and Aminu are SF. The other backups aren't proven. Just like Smith. But maybe backup PF isn't quite as important as backup C.

Aminu is very capable of playing PF, and I'd argue it's his best position on this team. As for CharlieV, he's proven himself in my book this year, and he's certainly done far more in the NBA than Smith has to this point. Backup PF isn't by any means a strength of the team relative to some of their competitors (GSW and SAS come to mind), but it's not by any means a position of need.

sefant77 · 01-05-2015, 10:56 PM

I think our options coming down to Sammy D. or Sanders

Underdog · 01-05-2015, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

I think our options coming down to Sammy D. or Sanders

I think I read somewhere in this thread that the Mavs can't get Dalembert until this summer because we traded him for Tyson Chandler...

EricaLubarsky · 01-05-2015, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

I think our options coming down to Sammy D. or Sanders

You just chose the two guys who are LEAST likely to make it here. Sammy CANNOT sign now that he's waived. Sanders is earning 11million and thinking about retiring from basketball altogether. http://deadspin.com/somethings-up-wi...ers-1677621813 We can't trade for him for all intents and purposes, and he may work out a buyout and quit basketball for good.

JO may still be an option when healthy (he's getting medical treatment at an advanced facility in Germany currently). Otherwise there are a number of third tier guys that will hit the market.

sefant77 · 01-05-2015, 11:06 PM

Source, Underdog? i will wait for the Woj bomb to confirm this...i smell bs that Sammy cant come back here...

PS:Eriiiiicaaaaa...smileys...huuuh *cough*

EricaLubarsky · 01-05-2015, 11:11 PM

Anyway, we absolutely need a third big going into the playoffs, but Felton, Ledo, and/or Powell and change could net us someone cheap.

In the mean time, Smith was VERY impressive tonight defending Lopez and keeping the pace up.

Melonhead · 01-05-2015, 11:17 PM

How many times has it been posted that Dallas cannot get Dalembert back? Infinity times.