01-05-2012, 02:46 PM
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Only Amare is a worst defensive PF.
Paul Westpaul, the Sac Kings, was fired today. That team is terrible.
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there are worse defenders than both. And also it was about time the clown got fired, the reasoning behind making the cousins trade demand public is crazy, there is none. Not to meantion most of players pretty much hated him and he is a terrible coach.
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01-05-2012, 02:53 PM
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who is going to be his replacement? i cant think of any outside coach coming in and trying to install his own system with a shortened fast paced season!!??
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01-05-2012, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Two words: Dan Tony
For the life of me, I can't understand why the Knicks would spend so much money on a player who specializes in defense and rebounding when they have a head coach who doesn't give two sh!ts about defense and rebounding... Tyson Chandler is never going to be given a fair chance to live up to his hefty contract.
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Yeah, but Dan Toni' can't be used as a crutch for Tyson's porous rebounding.
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01-05-2012, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Two words: Dan Tony
For the life of me, I can't understand why the Knicks would spend so much money on a player who specializes in defense and rebounding when they have a head coach who doesn't give two sh!ts about defense and rebounding... Tyson Chandler is never going to be given a fair chance to live up to his hefty contract.
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It kind of seems to me like they were just hoping to plug him into their lineup and have their defense magically fixed, because I think some people around the league think that's what happened with us last year. They fail to realize we had been solid defensively before Tyson, and he just added to that. I think Tyson will be able to slowly help, but it's unrealistic to expect one guy to change a team's whole defensive mindset without any help, especially when the coach isn't on board.
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01-05-2012, 04:58 PM
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Yeah, but Dan Toni' can't be used as a crutch for Tyson's porous rebounding.
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Oh, I agree - just commenting on the poor match between Chandler's skillset and D'Antoni's system, which is sure to contribute to Tyson's shortcomings (although his rebounding was kinda spotty last season too, especially when it came to boxing out...)
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01-05-2012, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
Oh, I agree - just commenting on the poor match between Chandler's skillset and D'Antoni's system, which is sure to contribute to Tyson's shortcomings (although his rebounding was kinda spotty last season too, especially when it came to boxing out...)
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Agree.
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01-05-2012, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nashtymavsfan13
It kind of seems to me like they were just hoping to plug him into their lineup and have their defense magically fixed, because I think some people around the league think that's what happened with us last year. They fail to realize we had been solid defensively before Tyson, and he just added to that. I think Tyson will be able to slowly help, but it's unrealistic to expect one guy to change a team's whole defensive mindset without any help, especially when the coach isn't on board.
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Exactly. Dirk, Marion, and Kidd are light years better defensively than Amare, Melo, Douglas. Fields is a respectable defender at best, same with Douglas. But Melo and Amare are flat out terrible (especially Amare).
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01-07-2012, 03:44 AM
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So, Portland and Phoenix...what a weird season we're having.
Fortunately for the Blazers, they got blown out on the road. If that would've happened at the Rose Garden they would have been eliminated from contention this season.
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01-07-2012, 03:56 AM
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So, Portland and Phoenix...what a weird season we're having.
Fortunately for the Blazers, they got blown out on the road. If that would've happened at the Rose Garden they would have been eliminated from contention this season.
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Per Hollinger, they probably are.
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01-07-2012, 04:21 AM
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Did anyone hear the Kwame quote? lol
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I taught him everything he knows. I told him if you can score on me, you can score on anyone.
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01-07-2012, 09:41 PM
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Did anyone hear the Kwame quote? lol
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Lol that's awesome, was he talking about Kobe?
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01-07-2012, 10:44 PM
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Jefferson is 26/46 on threes...
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01-07-2012, 10:46 PM
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*wrong thread.
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01-08-2012, 12:12 AM
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Wow, Griffin's dunks against the Bucks are sick.
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01-08-2012, 01:40 AM
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Lol that's awesome, was he talking about Kobe?
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01-08-2012, 01:45 AM
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A rookie sleeper to look out for that hasn't been talked about is Nicola Vucevic on Philly not athletic at all but very skilled on the post and very good rebounder he will be pushing for more and more minutes as season goes on.
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01-08-2012, 05:00 PM
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The Wizards maybe the worst team in NBA. John Wall doesn't look phenomenal at all. He looked very pedestrian up against Rubio and seemed to have regressed.
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01-08-2012, 05:13 PM
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Maynor out for the year... third big injury in the west
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01-08-2012, 05:29 PM
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Maynor out for the year... third big injury in the west
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Definitely feel for them after going through the Roddy injury. Maynor was making decent progress.
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01-08-2012, 08:29 PM
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The Kings have to break up the Cousins and Evans experiment. Those two despise each other and tension on court between those two is visible through my TV screen
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01-08-2012, 08:35 PM
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Nash with 10 first quarter assists
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01-08-2012, 08:41 PM
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The Kings have to break up the Cousins and Evans experiment. Those two despise each other and tension on court between those two is visible through my TV screen
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I just don't think they know how to play together, the worst thing for the kings to do is trade one or both of their 2 most talented players for little, they have to keep them unless they get fair value (which is extremely unlikely).
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01-08-2012, 08:51 PM
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T.J Ford has single handidly given OKC the game been beyond terrible.
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01-08-2012, 09:35 PM
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Every game has like a 20 point gap. Ridiculous.
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01-08-2012, 09:56 PM
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memphis has no chance with these refs
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01-08-2012, 11:19 PM
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teams are 6-0 in last day of back/back/back
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01-09-2012, 01:04 AM
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Ricky Rubio straight clowned Wall today.
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01-09-2012, 03:57 AM
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Ricky Rubio straight clowned Wall today.
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I refuse to believe Rubio is a rookie, boy is he ahead of the game, he has a lot of Kidd/Nash in him. His court vision is way, way advanced. John Wall, even with all his natural god given talent, does not have that. Rubio looked like an NBA point guard, Wall looked like an athlete. Big difference.
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01-09-2012, 01:09 PM
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I refuse to believe Rubio is a rookie, boy is he ahead of the game, he has a lot of Kidd/Nash in him. His court vision is way, way advanced. John Wall, even with all his natural god given talent, does not have that. Rubio looked like an NBA point guard, Wall looked like an athlete. Big difference.
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He said it is easier in the states then in europe
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01-09-2012, 04:33 PM
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Sigh really wish Kawhi and Malcolm ended up elsewhere, now I can't really hate the spurs. Malcolm Thomas is going to the spurs he is extremely long athletic shot blocker (fastest second jump I have ever seen) he is only 6'9 225 and really doesn't have a jumper so he will struggle to score in the NBA but he is extremely quick and athletic, plays above the rim and has quite a bit of potential on the defensive end.
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01-09-2012, 09:17 PM
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A rookie sleeper to look out for that hasn't been talked about is Nicola Vucevic on Philly not athletic at all but very skilled on the post and very good rebounder he will be pushing for more and more minutes as season goes on.
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I'm a big fan of Nicola. He beasted at USC. Good rebounder and three-point shooter with a post game. A little bit like Okur (but taller).
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01-09-2012, 09:47 PM
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Gotta throw a little love DJ Augustin's way. Cat is putting up:
17/8/4 (only 2 turnovers) on 41/40/85 shooting.
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01-10-2012, 12:07 AM
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Diop is so damn fat. It's amazing. I know he was pretty fat at times for Cleveland as well, but jeez. I'm not sure he can even get off the ground at this point.
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01-10-2012, 12:28 AM
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Diop is so damn fat. It's amazing. I know he was pretty fat at times for Cleveland as well, but jeez. I'm not sure he can even get off the ground at this point.
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He hit a free throw jumper in the first quarter, my jaw hit the floor.
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01-10-2012, 12:58 AM
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Diop is so damn fat. It's amazing. I know he was pretty fat at times for Cleveland as well, but jeez. I'm not sure he can even get off the ground at this point.
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You do realize that the legs can press several hundred pounds, right?
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01-10-2012, 09:40 AM
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You do realize that the legs can press several hundred pounds, right?
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Your contrarian levels have now reached the point that you're contradicting obvious hyperbole. Impressive.
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01-10-2012, 02:12 PM
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Your contrarian levels have now reached the point that you're contradicting obvious hyperbole. Impressive.
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i think Thig was saying that he can't jump *for* squat, not that he can't jump or squat.
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01-10-2012, 09:50 PM
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Rubio with 11/11/4/3 after 3 quarters.
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01-10-2012, 11:28 PM
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Your contrarian levels have now reached the point that you're contradicting obvious hyperbole. Impressive.
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Oh, sorry. I thought you meant that. At least, in a metaphorical sort of way.
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01-10-2012, 11:53 PM
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Rubio with 11/11/4/3 after 3 quarters.
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Defensively, he gave up 31/11 to Rose.
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