Bulls at Mavericks Gameday Thread

[MavsFanFinley]

I'm happy that Howard and Daniels will get some playing time tonight.

Minnesota lost tonight. Denver is up on Phoenix at the half. And Memphis is up early on Sacramento.

[Dirkenstien]

Fortsons doing a great job on the glass..13 boards in 17 minutes

[MavsFanFinley]

Who did Finley guard tonight?

[Simon2]

Its nice to see the rookies play.

[dirno2000]

Originally posted by: MavsFanFinley
Who did Finley guard tonight?

It's varied but he's probably spent the most time on Crawford.

[Dirkenstien]

How bout those rookies. Lookin pretty good out there.

[LRB]

The way Daniles looks, I don't want to see Best again this year as backup, but the rook in for Best.

[MavsFanFinley]

It's varied but he's probably spent the most time on Crawford.

Really? I thought he would have guarded Rose or Pippen mostly.

Thanks.

[Dirkenstien]

daniels sure has a smooth shot.

[FilthyFinMavs]

Originally posted by: MavsFanFinley
Finley for NVE anyone?

Why go that far? Why not trade him for Jalen Rose who everyone adores? He is a much better defender then Fin and he can go to the rack consistently. Forget the fact that Jalen is about to be dealt for a has been in Antonio Davis.
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[grndmstr_c]

Really nice to see Daniels get some time tonight. He sure looked good.

[Walkerforthree]

bradley effective as alway's

[FilthyFinMavs]

Originally posted by: MavsFanFinley

Really? I thought he would have guarded Rose or Pippen mostly.

Thanks.

He guarded those guys and Crawford and Gill. IT varied because of the Bulls poor attempt to run and gun with us.

[ReDIRKulous]

bradley effective as alway's

Murphy? lol

[Walkerforthree]

Originally posted by: ReDIRKulous

Murphy? lol

Uh, no. Bradley played well in garbage time, as he has all year, are you trying to refute that.

[MavsFanFinley]

The Mavs wail on the Bulls in a 124-98 effort.

Walker (29) 4-11, 1-4, 3-5, 12pts, 5rbs, 5as, 1to, 1stl

Dirk (28) 4-9, 1-2, 10-10, 19pts, 9rbs, 1as, 1blk

Fortson (16) 1-3, 2-2, 4pts, 13rbs, 2to's

Finley (33) 12-18, 2-5, 2-2, 28pts, 2rbs, 6as, 1to, 1stl

Nash (21) 5-6, 1-1, 11pts, 2rbs, 7as, 1to

Najera (24) 3-5, 2-4, 8pts, 7rbs, 1as, 1stl

Best (16) 0-1, 3-4, 3pts, 2rbs, 5as, 1to

Jamison (24) 7-14, 1-1, 15pts, 4rbs, 1as, 1stl

Bradley (9) 3-3, 6pts, 4rbs, 1to

Delk (18) 4-10, 1-4, 9pts, 1stl

Howard (13) 1-4, 1-2, 3pts, 1rb, 2as, 2blks

Daniels (9) 3-5, 6pts, 1as

[Simon2]

[FilthyFinMavs]

Originally posted by: MavsFanFinley
The Mavs wail on the Bulls in a 124-98 effort.

Walker (29) 4-11, 1-4, 3-5, 12pts, 5rbs, 5as, 1to, 1stl

Dirk (28) 4-9, 1-2, 10-10, 19pts, 9rbs, 1as, 1blk

Fortson (16) 1-3, 2-2, 4pts, 13rbs, 2to's

Finley (33) 12-18, 2-5, 2-2, 28pts, 2rbs, 6as, 1to, 1stl

Nash (21) 5-6, 1-1, 11pts, 2rbs, 7as, 1to

Najera (24) 3-5, 2-4, 8pts, 7rbs, 1as, 1stl

Best (16) 0-1, 3-4, 3pts, 2rbs, 5as, 1to

Jamison (24) 7-14, 1-1, 15pts, 4rbs, 1as, 1stl

Bradley (9) 3-3, 6pts, 4rbs, 1to

Delk (18) 4-10, 1-4, 9pts, 1stl

Howard (13) 1-4, 1-2, 3pts, 1rb, 2as, 2blks

Daniels (9) 3-5, 6pts, 1as

Who didn't produce lol?


I want to give props to Best. Sure he didn't hit any shots from the field but the guy distributed the ball real well and thats all I want from him. I could careless if he doesn't score from the field at all just as long as he is distributing the ball well while Nash is not on the court and he did that tonight. One thing I think Mavs fans underrate is his defense. The guy's D is always on.

[MavsFanFinley]

What the hell !!

[grndmstr_c]

Yeah, Travis did a nice job tonight on both ends of the court. That's two games in a row we've gotten solid contributions from him. An encouraging sign, for sure.

[kg_veteran]

Good point about Best, FFM. I've been on his case as much as anybody, but his defense is consistently good. If he will defend, play hard, and distribute the ball like he did tonight WITHOUT looking to shoot, I think he could serve a valuable role. Nellie wants a reliable veteran backup (not a mistake-prone rookie) at the backup PG slot, and Best needs to be that guy. Notice how much rest Steve got tonight, even before the game got out of hand. Nellie did it by pairing Best with Walker offensively so that Best didn't have to handle exclusive playmaking duties. Nice move by Nellie.

[mavs413]

Phoenix is losing to Denver 108-78 with a minute left.
Marion left the game in the 1st with a ankle sprain.

[LRB]

Originally posted by: FilthyFinMavs


Who didn't produce lol?

TAW and several memeber of the Bulls. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

[FilthyFinMavs]

Originally posted by: LRB

TAW and several memeber of the Bulls. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

True. Speaking of Ir players when will we get to see Steffanson? Is he even still on the roster? After seeing how Daniels and Howard have turned out i'm interested in seeing what he is about.

[FilthyFinMavs]

Originally posted by: kg_veteran
Good point about Best, FFM. I've been on his case as much as anybody, but his defense is consistently good. If he will defend, play hard, and distribute the ball like he did tonight WITHOUT looking to shoot, I think he could serve a valuable role. Nellie wants a reliable veteran backup (not a mistake-prone rookie) at the backup PG slot, and Best needs to be that guy. Notice how much rest Steve got tonight, even before the game got out of hand. Nellie did it by pairing Best with Walker offensively so that Best didn't have to handle exclusive playmaking duties. Nice move by Nellie.

I agree. Daniels just isn't there yet. I just hate to see Best look for his shot so much. I'd much rather him go 0/6 by driving to the hole than him settling for mid rangers because he can get to the hole.

[MavsFanFinley]

True. Speaking of Ir players when will we get to see Steffanson? Is he even still on the roster? After seeing how Daniels and Howard have turned out i'm interested in seeing what he is about.

I can't imagine Stefansson will be activated this year unless we have multiple injuries.

[EricaLubarsky]

just one serious injury will do it.

[LRB]

Originally posted by: FilthyFinMavs

True. Speaking of Ir players when will we get to see Steffanson? Is he even still on the roster? After seeing how Daniels and Howard have turned out i'm interested in seeing what he is about.

FFM unless we have a couple of major injuries, I doubt that we'll see him this year and only then in garbage time.

[MavsFanFinley]

By STEPHEN HAWKINS, AP Sports Writer
November 25, 2003

DALLAS (AP) -- Interim coach Pete Myers has coached only one game for the Chicago Bulls, and he's already frustrated.

And the Bulls lost again, a day after Bill Cartwright was fired.

Myers got called for a technical foul late in the third quarter, near the end of a game-turning run by the Dallas Mavericks in their 124-98 victory Tuesday night. The Bulls have lost six straight.

``I was frustrated because it seemed like they were getting calls we weren't getting,'' Myers said. ``I wanted the guys to know that I'll fight to the end for them.''

By then it was too late.

Michael Finley scored a season-high 28 points, including 13 during a 33-15 third-quarter run in which the Mavs made 12 straight shots to turn the game into another lopsided loss for Chicago (4-11).

``Once they got down, they got that `here we go again' look on their faces,'' Finley said.

A minute after Myers was called for a technical, Antawn Jamison's three-point play capped the spurt, putting the Mavericks ahead 100-72 with 1:19 left. They made 16 of 21 shots while scoring 41 points in the quarter, matching their highest-scoring quarter of the season.

Cartwright was fired Monday, a day after Chicago's 110-99 loss at Sacramento. A key to Chicago's first three championships as a starting center, he was 51-100 as coach since taking over Dec. 28, 2001.

This season has been a major disappointment for the Bulls, who a team that expected to take a step forward with youngsters Eddy Curry and Tyson Chandler and the addition of veteran Scottie Pippen to the lineup.

``We never blamed it on him (Cartwright). This is not one person's fault,'' Chandler said.

Pippen missed the second half Tuesday night after taking an elbow to the face. Team officials said he had a bruised left eye.

``Our guys showed some fight in the first half. When Scottie came out, we became disorganized,'' Myers said. ``We took some bad shots that led to some easy baskets for them. We did things that were beneficial to them.''

Pippen's injury occurred with about two minutes left in the first half when he was hit near his left temple by Dirk Nowitzki's elbow when both went up in anticipation of a rebound on the Chicago end of the court. There was no foul called on the play.

By that point, the Mavericks were up 61-50 and starting to pull away.

The Bulls stayed close through the game's first 10 minutes, but Finley's 15-footer with 1:29 left made it 29-27, and the Mavs led throughout. That started a 9-2 run to end the first quarter while Nowitzki and Steve Nash were getting a breather in the first of their four games in five nights.

``We knew with a new coach they would have a lot of energy early,'' Finley said. ``We withstood that energy, and once it work off we got into what we do.''

Chandler led the Bulls with 17 points and six rebounds. Jamal Crawford had 16 points.

Dirk Nowitzki added 19 points and nine rebounds while Jamison had 15 points for the Mavericks, who won their fourth straight and are undefeated in eight home games. Dallas has won 11 straight against the Bulls.

Myers' expected two-game stint as coach continues Wednesday night at defending champion San Antonio. The Bulls then don't play again until a home game Monday, and probably will have a new coach by then.

General manager John Paxson said he hoped to name a replacement for Cartwright within a week. Former Phoenix coach Scott Skiles and former Orlando coach Doc Rivers -- a Chicago native -- were among the names floated as possibilities.

Myers, drafted by the Bulls in the sixth round of the 1986 draft, played for five teams in his eight NBA seasons, including two single-season stints with Chicago. He is now in his fifth season on the Bulls staff, serving as a scout and assistant coach.

When Michael Jordan retired from the Bulls after the 1993 championship, Myers replaced him in the lineup the next season. That was Myers' best as aplayer with 7.9 points and three assists a game.

Notes

The last time Chicago beat Dallas was Dec. 29, 1997 at Chicago, when Michael Jordan scored 41 points and Dennis Rodman had 27 rebounds. ... Danny Fortson had 13 rebounds, his high with the Mavericks. ... Bulls players Kendall Gill and Marcus Fizer were also called for technicals. ... Dallas coach Don Nelson won his 1,106th game, four short of Pat Riley for second on the career list. ... Finley has 135 points the last seven games, after scoring just 75 the first seven.

[chumdawg]

Couple quick thoughts:

1) How can you not love Michael Finley? The guy continues to accept a reduced role in the offense, but he handles it in stride and works even harder on defense. And then he occasionally scores 28 points in three quarters. Heart and soul, I tell ya.

2) Man, will Howard and Daniels eventually have to leave Dallas? Those guys seem to have too much potential to be riding the bench most games. Howard's block on Curry (or whoever it was...but it was a big) started a party in my Mavericks pants. And Daniels's shot is sweet like candy. Those guys look to have much promise. I just hope they stay around ultimately. I bet if we keep getting trash time for them in blowouts, their trade value will rise.

[EricaLubarsky]

Dallas coach Don Nelson won his 1,106th game, four short of Pat Riley for second on the career list.

Unless Riley gets picked up by the LAL, SAN or SAC Nellie will far surpass him this season.

So where is the championship, Nellie?

[dude1394]

Originally posted by: kg_veteran
Good point about Best, FFM. I've been on his case as much as anybody, but his defense is consistently good. If he will defend, play hard, and distribute the ball like he did tonight WITHOUT looking to shoot, I think he could serve a valuable role. Nellie wants a reliable veteran backup (not a mistake-prone rookie) at the backup PG slot, and Best needs to be that guy. Notice how much rest Steve got tonight, even before the game got out of hand. Nellie did it by pairing Best with Walker offensively so that Best didn't have to handle exclusive playmaking duties. Nice move by Nellie.

Agreed..as much as I like daniels I really don't want a rook out there at crunch time. Best looked better but he still has that east coast walk it up and bore the heck out of everyone in the arena mentality. Is there any doubt that having a team coached by pat riley must have been a humongous whip.

[dude1394]

Originally posted by: chumdawg
Couple quick thoughts:

1) How can you not love Michael Finley? The guy continues to accept a reduced role in the offense, but he handles it in stride and works even harder on defense. And then he occasionally scores 28 points in three quarters. Heart and soul, I tell ya.

Michael is really symptomatic of the whole team and organization. For a team with so many "stars" on it this team distributes the ball as well as any team I've seen. My buddy and I were also noting how the team itself has really changed. A lot more lay-ups, a lot more movement a lot more distribution. Of course rebounding and defense is also much improved.
In the third they really turned up the defense. The defensive intensity was palpable in the arena.

[Walkerforthree]

Originally posted by: chumdawg
Couple quick thoughts:

1) How can you not love Michael Finley? The guy continues to accept a reduced role in the offense, but he handles it in stride and works even harder on defense. And then he occasionally scores 28 points in three quarters. Heart and soul, I tell ya.

2) Man, will Howard and Daniels eventually have to leave Dallas? Those guys seem to have too much potential to be riding the bench most games. Howard's block on Curry (or whoever it was...but it was a big) started a party in my Mavericks pants. And Daniels's shot is sweet like candy. Those guys look to have much promise. I just hope they stay around ultimately. I bet if we keep getting trash time for them in blowouts, their trade value will rise.

Well, actually that's not quite true. In Mike's hot streak lately, he has not at all had a reduced role in the O, not that that's a problem at all, as he has been playing fantastic. However, in his 7 or so game scoring streak, he has had the 1st, 2nd or 3rd most shot attempts each night, not bad, just pointing it out.

[chumdawg]

Originally posted by: Walkerforthree


Well, actually that's not quite true. In Mike's hot streak lately, he has not at all had a reduced role in the O, not that that's a problem at all, as he has been playing fantastic. However, in his 7 or so game scoring streak, he has had the 1st, 2nd or 3rd most shot attempts each night, not bad, just pointing it out.

True, he's been getting a lot of shots lately. I was thinking more of a general trend the last few years. Maybe the stats would show that he's still getting as many shots as he ever did (I'm not sure). But it just seems as though he's less of a go-to guy than he used to be, and that he's too much a pro to let that bother him.

God love Michael Finley. For my money, his Game 5 against the Spurs last year was about as good a performance in that kind of situation as I have seen in a long, long time.