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monty55555 · 05-03-2011, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kg_veteran

I'll hook ya up, bro!

Good night all. What a phenomenal night.

Thanks

Looking forward to it. Let's go for win number 2 first.

FreshJive · 05-03-2011, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

the funny thing is later on Kenny calls out Phil for not giving Odom and Pau the shots to succeed

He carried Hakeem to a championship. He's the exception.

SMC0007 · 05-03-2011, 01:01 AM

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I heartily disagree with giving Haywood more credit than Tyson. Haywood played 13 minutes and somehow didn't grab a rebound. I thought he played solid, especially defensively, but Tyson was huge.

Now, the caveat to that is that Tyson was huge while being allowed to play extremely physical. He's rarely (never?) allowed to play like that. But for tonight I thought he was extremely important to this team.

Kidd was absolute garbage in the third quarter, and was mediocre to bad overall, but gosh was his defense huge in the fourth quarter. I have always loved how physical Kidd plays defense late in quarters when the team has fouls to give. Most guards just take wild chances and then reach, while Kidd just physically abuses his guy and pushes to see how much he can get away with.

Dirk...oh how I loved this performance. Gritty, determined, awesome. He rebounded at an elite level, he defended (not great against Odom, that's a rough match up), and he was so versatile offensively. He'll shoot more free throws when the refs start calling it tighter, too.

Brewer provided such a huge spark tonight. I really wonder what Rick decides to do next game. A small part of me doesn't want to change the lineup at this point, but Stevenson was not good at all in the first round, and he was awful tonight. Brewer just provides so much more in the less-obvious areas. He moves with a purpose without the ball, he moves the ball well, and he brings such a different level of energy. I think he has to start Wednesday.

Jet played such a solid game. I loved that shot selection, I loved the defensive play at the end of the game. Take out that RIDICULOUS foul at the end of the first half and I'm pleased as punch.

JJ had a solid game and Peja hit a few important shots tonight. Marion played awful offensively all night, but his defense is SO important against Kobe and Odom. I don't know that I agree that he'll be crap offensively the rest of the series. He had two really nice offensive games against the Lakers this season. I'll just settle for less fumbling of the ball.

Tonight was just freaking awesome. So intense, so agonizing in parts, and gosh that last three looked like it was going in. I loved every minute of it. Can't wait for Wednesday.

I think Brewer has to start wed too. It would be different if Stevenson was hitting his 3's like earlier in the season. You can't ask the world of anyone guarding Kobe but Brewers activity on both ends of the court Stevenson can't really duplicate. If his decisions continue to be solid, he will get those minutes im betting.

nowhereman · 05-03-2011, 01:02 AM

Corey, Dirk, Jet, Kidd, Peja, Barea, Chandler, Wood.... damn. Great game by the boys.

And we can still play better.

Lets go Mavs.

fluid.forty.one · 05-03-2011, 01:03 AM

I bet Cuban is the happiest guy in the world right now. He has been waiting for this night for a looooong time.

The crazy thing is, Kobe can't play much better than he did tonight.... but Kidd and Marion and Bynum can. Whoever steps up is going to make the difference.

FINtastic · 05-03-2011, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kg_veteran

My birthday is Wednesday. I think I'll give myself a 2-0 series lead.

Actually, I think that's Chuck's present to you. You should probably give credit where credit is due.

Lest you want a roundhouse kick to the face.

xrobx · 05-03-2011, 01:04 AM

this was a great win but we have to bring it in game 2. we can't be satisfied with 1-1 going home. we need to go for the jugular right now.

twistaeffect2004 · 05-03-2011, 01:06 AM

"The Mavs were getting smoked until the Lakers let them back in and gave the game away. For every point Dirk scored he gave up on the other end and almost blew that free throw after that gift by Gasol. Then the refs gave them a gift not calling the foul on Kidd. Lakers lost this game a lot more than the Mavs won it."

My Laker buddy after the loss..

The smug attitude of Lakers fans even after a loss is amazing.

GermanDunk · 05-03-2011, 01:07 AM

Woohoo.

I think, now it´s official. GD not going to watch one single damn game in this series.

mavs777 · 05-03-2011, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

I bet Cuban is the happiest guy in the world right now. He has been waiting for this night for a looooong time.

The crazy thing is, Kobe can't play much better than he did tonight.... but Kidd and Marion and Bynum can. Whoever steps up is going to make the difference.

bunch of twitter posts about Cuban having a huge smile

GermanDunk · 05-03-2011, 01:09 AM

777 : What happenend to Cubs ?

jthig32 · 05-03-2011, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Bolded above.

Odom's definitely a tough match up for Marion, but he's a lot worse match up for Dirk or Peja, so I think it's still a pretty important aspect of the defense.

I agree that Haywood helped in the rebounding department. I said he had a solid game. But 13 minutes without a single rebound it a little weird.

dalger · 05-03-2011, 01:12 AM

Listening to Kobe in the press conference makes it so much easier to appreciate a humble-as-always Dirk and dislike Kobe for his arrogance.

CadBane · 05-03-2011, 01:12 AM

Kobe is so smug.

Underdog · 05-03-2011, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

The crazy thing is, Kobe can't play much better than he did tonight.... but Kidd and Marion and Bynum can. Whoever steps up is going to make the difference.

Great point.

jthig32 · 05-03-2011, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Kobe is so smug.

He really is. Makes for a fascinating press conference after a loss.

dude1394 · 05-03-2011, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Kobe is so smug.

yea he really is...

Thespiralgoeson · 05-03-2011, 01:16 AM

I agree with the assertion that Brewer needs actually be a part of the rotation for this series.

iella · 05-03-2011, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dalger

Listening to Kobe in the press conference makes it so much easier to appreciate a humble-as-always Dirk and dislike Kobe for his arrogance.

Apparently any disruption in the Lakers' offensive flow has "nothing to do with" Kobe.

LonghornDub · 05-03-2011, 01:19 AM

Post-game report from Staples:

-Lakers fans have nothing on Blazers fans. At its loudest (which was on a couple of the Mavs offensive possessions at the end of the game), Staples was 20 dB softer than the Rose Garden's usual noise.

-I told KG and thiggy this on twitter, but after that horrible turnover by Stevenson in the 3rd that led to the transition 3, he just stood at the Mavs' FT line and watched the transition play go down. He didn't even make it to halfcourt until several seconds after the timeout was called. He should be benched for that kind of piss poor effort after a bad play. And that leads me to...

-Brewer. Wow. What a spark. Five points, an assist, a rebound, and a steal in 8 minutes. Great stuff.

-Other than his boneheaded garbage at the end of the half and his horrible fastbreaking, I thought Terry was again stellar.

-Dirk was Dirk. Bout god damn time someone got called for a foul in crunch time for riding his body.

-Saw two other Mavs fans besides me and my buddy. Also, a lone Serbian guy who was sitting in the corner behind us came down after the game, shook my hand, and said "We support you in Serbia." Nice.

-For their lack of noise, I will give Lakers fans one thing. They are pretty chill. Must be a Cali thing. Other than a couple morons talking noise the whole game, nobody gave us any problems. We got booed everywhere we walked in Portland. Lakers fans probably justa don't even care.

-The women. Wow. Like the AAC lower bowl on hotness steroids. Nuff said.

That's it for now.

wilmtalk · 05-03-2011, 01:19 AM

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I'm puzzled why Kidd guards Bryant over Marion. Well, somewhat. Kidd has those quick hands and probably a better reputation than Marion, so he can get away with more of that contact and the hands wrapped around Kobe's waist. Marion clearly can contest shots better, and did in the game, but clearly Kidd worked out. Still haven't fully made up my mind that one.----------------------------------------------------------------------------------I thought the Mavericks, especially Dirk, got the short end of the refereeing stick for 46 minutes of that game. Last two were decidedly in the Mavericks favor, though, so it evens out...kinda. They definitely allowed a lot of contact for most of the game and scaled back on what they called late (other than Kidd guarding Kobe), and the Mavs were just more physical towards the end.

I believe the reason they have Kidd guard him is the key to stopping Kobe is to disrupt his dribble. He scores off of it. You must pressure him the entire time he has the ball long before he can elevate for his shot. Kidd sometimes does that well at the end of games. He should have been harrassed the entire game.

I think before his last two freethrows Dirk had only 3 attempts from the line. That about says it all about who didn't get any calls

Longhorndub---People that go to the laker games are mostly celebraties and not real basketball fans. they are mostly there to be seen. It's like a social thing for the rich and famous of Southern Cal. If they wanted to cheer they would hire someone to do it for them.

sefant77 · 05-03-2011, 01:23 AM

mavs777 · 05-03-2011, 01:23 AM

the good news is game 4 is on Sunday. Lakers never win on sunday for whatever reason

mavs777 · 05-03-2011, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Post-game report from Staples:

-Lakers fans have nothing on Blazers fans. At its loudest (which was on a couple of the Mavs offensive possessions at the end of the game), Staples was 20 dB softer than the Rose Garden's usual noise.

-I told KG and thiggy this on twitter, but after that horrible turnover by Stevenson in the 3rd that led to the transition 3, he just stood at the Mavs' FT line and watched the transition play go down. He didn't even make it to halfcourt until several seconds after the timeout was called. He should be benched for that kind of piss poor effort after a bad play. And that leads me to...

-Brewer. Wow. What a spark. Five points, an assist, a rebound, and a steal in 8 minutes. Great stuff.

-Other than his boneheaded garbage at the end of the half and his horrible fastbreaking, I thought Terry was again stellar.

-Dirk was Dirk. Bout god damn time someone got called for a foul in crunch time for riding his body.

-Saw two other Mavs fans besides me and my buddy. Also, a lone Serbian guy who was sitting in the corner behind us came down after the game, shook my hand, and said "We support you in Serbia." Nice.

-For their lack of noise, I will give Lakers fans one thing. They are pretty chill. Must be a Cali thing. Other than a couple morons talking noise the whole game, nobody gave us any problems. We got booed everywhere we walked in Portland. Lakers fans probably justa don't even care.

-The women. Wow. Like the AAC lower bowl on hotness steroids. Nuff said.

That's it for now.

It seems to be more of an entertainment thing than a basketball game for most Laker fans.

jthig32 · 05-03-2011, 01:27 AM

For those that don't follow HoopData on Twitter (you should), Kobe had 29 attempts and not a single one of them came from the rim. Not a single layup or dunk.

That's freaking amazing, and if it's a sign that he's still hobbled, it's a huge factor in this series moving forward.

Bynum4MVP · 05-03-2011, 01:28 AM

Kidd guards Kobe because Artest would just take Kidd down to the block and kill him.

Kidd on Kobe is the lesser of 2 evils.

Outside of Bynum being MIA, the game played out pretty much as expected.

The difference was the Mavs bench, they came to play...the Lakers bench didn't show up outside of Odom.

LonghornDub · 05-03-2011, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Bynum4MVP

Outside of Bynum being MIA, the game played out pretty much as expected.

You expected Kobe to score 36, the Lakers to have a 16-point second half lead, and lose?

You need to go to Vegas, my man.

Bynum4MVP · 05-03-2011, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

You expected Kobe to score 36, the Lakers to have a 16-point second half lead, and lose?

You need to go to Vegas, my man.

It was like every game before it.

Kobe gets his, Dirk gets his.

Lakers and Mavs waste 3 quarters when we all know it's going to come down to the 4th quarter.

If you've been following the Mavs for the last few years, this is the way it's been almost every time they play the Lakers.

Forget the first 3 quarters, if the Lakers were down, they would have caught up. If the Mavs were down they would have caught up by the 4th. We have seen this script oh so many times it's hard to believe Mavfan is surprised.

I even posted this in some other thread here...it's always about the 4th quarter between these 2 teams ... and here it was yet AGAIN lol

StackAttack · 05-03-2011, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

It seems to be more of an entertainment thing than a basketball game for most Laker fans.

Agreed, but unfortunately this might be even more true for most Mavs "fans."

Bungleweeb · 05-03-2011, 01:39 AM

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Arrogant? Dude knew they had no chance if it went to OT. Why play for a sure loss?

I guess it could be thrown into the slight-desperation category; I won't argue with that. Then again, it just seems a bit strange to me that Phil would have that little faith in their ability to pull off an OT win at home. Actually, now that I think about it, that's quite awesome if he felt that way!

Dirkadirkastan · 05-03-2011, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

Winning Game 1, on the road, after being down by 16(?)after a mini-implosion and 3 straight(!) turnovers to start the 2nd half... it doesnt get much better or guttier.

But I thought the Mavs had to play a perfect game in order to win!

dude1394 · 05-03-2011, 01:58 AM

If the mavs can even up the rebounding and keep bynum in check...I like what I see...Lakers will play some defense however so they need to be ready.

LonghornDub · 05-03-2011, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by StackAttack

Agreed, but unfortunately this might be even more true for most Mavs "fans."

Having now experienced both environment, no, the Lakers definitely take the cake.

mavs777 · 05-03-2011, 02:03 AM

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"When he shot it I didn't look. I was just going to listen to the crowd.'' -- Jason Kidd on Kobe Bryant's last-second 3-pt shot

mavs777 · 05-03-2011, 02:05 AM

@BallinWithBryan Chandler on hearing the comments about the Mavs of the past, "I’m honestly sick of hearing it.”

mavs777 · 05-03-2011, 02:06 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOi5zmFlSNo

Underdog · 05-03-2011, 02:10 AM

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@BallinWithBryan: Odom, "I think they controlled the game as far as speed was concerned. I didn't really like the tempo that we played at."

I love that - aside from a few ugly stretches, we pretty much controlled the tempo in all 6 games against Portland and now we're exerting our will against the Champs... Looks like we're playing our game for the most part - props to Carlisle for finding a groove.

BGMaverick9 · 05-03-2011, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

the good news is game 4 is on Sunday. Lakers never win on sunday for whatever reason

10-8 = not quite never

BGMaverick9 · 05-03-2011, 02:11 AM

FTW

"This is not the same the same old Mavs of the past where you beat them up and we give up, and you get aggressive and they back down. This is a different team, different squad, different players, different look. Hopefully, we get a different outcome."
-Tyson Chandler

Underdog · 05-03-2011, 02:14 AM

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FTW

"This is not the same the same old Mavs of the past where you beat them up and we give up, and you get aggressive and they back down. This is a different team, different squad, different players, different look. Hopefully, we get a different outcome."
-Tyson Chandler

Another sig-worthy quote from Chandler...