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Murphy3 · 05-02-2014, 10:34 PM

The last time I checked, Oprah Winfrey is a potential NBA owner.. Donald Sterling is a current NBA owner.. but hey, that was just the last time I checked.

Underdog · 05-02-2014, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Murphy3

The last time I checked, Oprah Winfrey is a potential NBA owner.. Donald Sterling is a current NBA owner.. but hey, that was just the last time I checked.

But nobody is talking about Donald Sterling, and all of the Oprah talk has been reduced to her race (and I'm not just pointing the finger at you)... But if you guys want to talk about what kind of owner she'd be beyond your political leanings, I'd be happy to put this thread back in the Around The NBA section. I mean, she's only the most successful female entertainer in America - that should have SOME kind of impact on the Clippers... Why just talk politics and racism?

DirkFTW · 05-05-2014, 12:13 PM

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Why just talk politics and racism?

Wait, all the talk about relying on genetics as a crutch instead of working hard and how some people must be given everything instead of creating with their own hands was about politics and racism????

I thought it was about Blake Griffin's game!

Murphy3 · 05-02-2014, 10:50 PM

Why does it have anything to do with political leanings? I don't dislike Oprah because of her political leanings. I actually thought she was a conservative with the exception of when she backed Obama. My dislike of Oprah has to do with her crying racism when things don't turn out the way she wants..and has to do with her use donations/charity to further her celebrity. I don't care for it with someone like Oprah.. I don't care for it with someone like Garth Brooks... That's why I don't like Oprah. Do I think she'd make a good owner? If you want someone such as her involved with the sport, that's up to you. I have absolutely no interest in it. It has nothing to do with race or her sex. It has to do with who she is and the way she attempts to manipulate the public by her "good deeds" that she always finds a way to publicize as much as humanly possible. I don't really care for that too much.

EricaLubarsky · 05-05-2014, 02:10 PM

With all the QQ about which sub-forum this belongs in, perhaps we should move it to the D-M.com section now.

DirkFTW · 05-05-2014, 03:44 PM

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With all the QQ about which sub-forum this belongs in, perhaps we should move it to the D-M.com section now.

I dunno, with that sans-pants photo, maybe this needs to be Baylissed.

soundchaser · 05-05-2014, 07:41 PM

freedom of speech is the thing we have to hold high on a pedestal as sacred above all other rights and this guy did not go out publicly and say anything

he was basically baited into doing this by his GF who happens to be much younger than him and wanting to hang out with young virile black men who are all probably wanting to bang her.

That is why he said what he said and he must know how whupped he looks to us. I have the guy figured out because his GF is basically wrapping him around her little finger and he lets her get away with it because he loves that pooty tain.

Shit this has nothing to do with racism its all about pooty tain and getting it. This guy just does not want to share his tail with anyone else and can you blame him she is somewhat attractive despite the bad plastic surgery and if I was as ugly and old as him I would be somewhat upset if my relatively hot GF wanted to hang around much younger black men all looking to tap that ass.

And that might make me act a little racist as well so I can't really fault that he feels that way. I would like to think that insanity that women create would not affect me but hey it has been known to affect me in the past and it was only by my discovering the wonders of topless bars that I was able to avoid the madness created by loving a single woman.

I'd have told the bitch to hit the road and get gone a long time ago if that was the problem but evidently he is in love. Dude just go to the nearest strip club and find you another one and tell her she can suffer the consequence of her actions. If she can't be happy with what you give her then tell her hit the road bitch. Go find some other fool to pay your bills or on your knees and please me and don't forget to swallow. Not a drop better hit the ground or you will be down there licking it up. Capiche now come over here and let me smack that ass. ASk her if she has a sister and invite her over for dinner.

You share the rod and you spoil the broad.

DirkFTW · 05-05-2014, 10:42 PM

Ugh... did we really need shades of sexism and domination in this thread? I guess this is never getting moved back to the NBA section.

dirt_dobber · 05-06-2014, 10:04 AM

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freedom ????????????????

filthiest post I’ve ever seen on this board – disappointed.

jthig32 · 05-06-2014, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by soundchaser

freedom of speech is the thing we have to hold high on a pedestal as sacred above all other rights and this guy did not go out publicly and say anything

he was basically baited into doing this by his GF who happens to be much younger than him and wanting to hang out with young virile black men who are all probably wanting to bang her.

That is why he said what he said and he must know how whupped he looks to us. I have the guy figured out because his GF is basically wrapping him around her little finger and he lets her get away with it because he loves that pooty tain.

Shit this has nothing to do with racism its all about pooty tain and getting it. This guy just does not want to share his tail with anyone else and can you blame him she is somewhat attractive despite the bad plastic surgery and if I was as ugly and old as him I would be somewhat upset if my relatively hot GF wanted to hang around much younger black men all looking to tap that ass.

And that might make me act a little racist as well so I can't really fault that he feels that way. I would like to think that insanity that women create would not affect me but hey it has been known to affect me in the past and it was only by my discovering the wonders of topless bars that I was able to avoid the madness created by loving a single woman.

I'd have told the bitch to hit the road and get gone a long time ago if that was the problem but evidently he is in love. Dude just go to the nearest strip club and find you another one and tell her she can suffer the consequence of her actions. If she can't be happy with what you give her then tell her hit the road bitch. Go find some other fool to pay your bills or on your knees and please me and don't forget to swallow. Not a drop better hit the ground or you will be down there licking it up. Capiche now come over here and let me smack that ass. ASk her if she has a sister and invite her over for dinner.

You share the rod and you spoil the broad.

Wow. I can't decide whether I should remove this and ban you, or leave it and let people see your ignorance. I'm leaning toward the latter for now.

For the record, I'm assuming you didn't actually listen to the audio or read anything about this incident, because Sterling actually told her he was fine if she slept with "them", as long as she wasn't seen in public.

So...no..it has nothing to do with "pooty tain" and everything to do with racism. And sexism. And some misogyny thrown in for good measure.

soundchaser · 05-07-2014, 05:11 PM

derp

Thespiralgoeson · 05-08-2014, 03:53 PM

^^I know Underdog probably had a very good reason for changing the post, but I am genuinely curious about what soundchaser said.

dude1394 · 05-11-2014, 04:57 PM

Getcher popcorn ready.

"NEW YORK -- LeBron James understands it will take time, but he wants Donald Sterling out of the NBA.

And he said Sunday that NBA players believe nobody in Sterling's family should be able to own the Los Angeles Clippers if he's gone.

Sterling has been banned for life for making racist comments and commissioner Adam Silver has urged owners to force Sterling to sell the franchise. But Silver said no decisions had been made about the rest of Sterling's family.

The attorney for Shelly Sterling, Sterling's estranged wife, said her client intends to keep her 50 percent of the franchise."

DevinHarriswillstart · 05-11-2014, 05:49 PM

Yeah, I don't know how they are going to deal with Shelly's half. How can they force her to sell when she has done nothing wrong?

EricaLubarsky · 05-11-2014, 08:19 PM

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Yeah, I don't know how they are going to deal with Shelly's half. How can they force her to sell when she has done nothing wrong?

She's done a lot wrong and has been proven to be a remorseless racist and a nasty presence to the team, but you are right that there isn't anything actionable.

DirkFTW · 05-22-2014, 09:47 AM

Uhoh...

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Originally Posted by Mark Cuban

I mean, we're all prejudiced in one way or another. If I see a black kid in a hoodie and it's late at night, I'm walking to the other side of the street. And if on that side of the street, there's a guy that has tattoos all over his face -- white guy, bald head, tattoos everywhere -- I'm walking back to the other side of the street.

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/...w-handles-them

Cue the forced sale! He's negatively affecting revenue and personnel by dissing an entire line of NBA apparel and Chris Andersen!

dude1394 · 05-11-2014, 07:28 PM

She is guilty by association.

Underdog · 05-22-2014, 09:50 AM

It's not that he doesn't make decent points, but the timing is horrible. Lines are being drawn in the sand, and statements like this can give the perception that Cuban has chosen a (very unpopular) side. Free agency is right around the corner - if ever there was a time where shutting the hell up was the only sensible course of action......

Jack.Kerr · 05-22-2014, 10:05 AM

Everyone's a little bit racist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovF1zsDoeM

Mavs must be pinning their hopes on signing Gordon Heyward.

DevinHarriswillstart · 05-22-2014, 10:32 AM

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Everyone's a little bit racist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RovF1zsDoeM

Mavs must be pinning their hopes on signing Gordon Heyward.

Ha, I was definitely thinking about this song during this whole mess.

Cuban doesn't get that his perception of a black hoodie kid is exactly why Trayvon Martin was needlessly murdered. I have no idea why you'd be threatened by what is a ridiculous stereotype. People that live in rich gated communities sometimes just start making things up about what threatens them. I live in a reasonably upscale apartment complex and the majority of my building is black. Plenty of them do seem to fit a certain stereotype, and yet I've never once felt insecure or threatened about my living situation. It's just ridiculous to think that you have to watch your back late at night if you see someone that doesn't think or dress the way you do. This is more of stereotype problem than a racist one.

Underdog · 05-22-2014, 10:47 AM

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Cuban doesn't get that his perception of a black hoodie kid is exactly why Trayvon Martin was needlessly murdered. I have no idea why you'd be threatened by what is a ridiculous stereotype. People that live in rich gated communities sometimes just start making things up about what threatens them. I live in a reasonably upscale apartment complex and the majority of my building is black. Plenty of them do seem to fit a certain stereotype, and yet I've never once felt insecure or threatened about my living situation. It's just ridiculous to think that you have to watch your back late at night if you see someone that doesn't think or dress the way you do. This is more of stereotype problem than a racist one.

Honestly, I'm more afraid of getting robbed by white billionaires than black kids wearing hoodies... But I base my worldview on experience, not stereotypes.

jthig32 · 05-22-2014, 12:52 PM

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Ha, I was definitely thinking about this song during this whole mess.

Cuban doesn't get that his perception of a black hoodie kid is exactly why Trayvon Martin was needlessly murdered. I have no idea why you'd be threatened by what is a ridiculous stereotype. People that live in rich gated communities sometimes just start making things up about what threatens them. I live in a reasonably upscale apartment complex and the majority of my building is black. Plenty of them do seem to fit a certain stereotype, and yet I've never once felt insecure or threatened about my living situation. It's just ridiculous to think that you have to watch your back late at night if you see someone that doesn't think or dress the way you do. This is more of stereotype problem than a racist one.

I think he very much understands what this line of thinking can lead to. He wasn't endorsing it, he wasn't even claiming it was rational. He was stating, correctly, that it exists. And he was also stating that it's different for everyone.

Whether or not it affects your sense of personal safety, you and everyone else on this board have your own personal biases and prejudices that affect how you interact with people and that shape your life as a whole. That's all he was saying.

And yes, it's very obviously a stereotype/prejudice thing, not a race thing. And it's not a big deal. The only people making an issue out of it at this point are people that didn't read/listen to the whole interview or are just trolling for attention.

DevinHarriswillstart · 05-22-2014, 01:57 PM

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I think he very much understands what this line of thinking can lead to. He wasn't endorsing it, he wasn't even claiming it was rational. He was stating, correctly, that it exists. And he was also stating that it's different for everyone.

Whether or not it affects your sense of personal safety, you and everyone else on this board have your own personal biases and prejudices that affect how you interact with people and that shape your life as a whole. That's all he was saying.

And yes, it's very obviously a stereotype/prejudice thing, not a race thing. And it's not a big deal. The only people making an issue out of it at this point are people that didn't read/listen to the whole interview or are just trolling for attention.

I understand now what he was trying to say, but if I was an NBA owner, I wouldn't even utter the words "black kid in a hoodie" if a gun was held to my head. Most people are dumb and take perception as reality even if Cuban had other intentions.

Underdog · 05-22-2014, 02:01 PM

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And yes, it's very obviously a stereotype/prejudice thing, not a race thing. And it's not a big deal. The only people making an issue out of it at this point are people that didn't read/listen to the whole interview or are just trolling for attention.

Sure, but people who spin a story reach a lot more eyes/ears than people who originate a story. It doesn't matter what Cuban actually said so much as what people THINK he said - especially when the topic is one that people can't wait to overreact to.

Best to keep his mouth shut, seeing as how his statements gain nothing but could cost him quite a bit in the realm of public perception, even if they're misconstrued... It's not like the free agent class this summer is smarter than the average idiot when it comes to social issues.

Thespiralgoeson · 05-26-2014, 05:52 AM

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Cuban doesn't get that his perception of a black hoodie kid is exactly why Trayvon Martin was needlessly murdered.

I think he knows that very well, and that's the point he was trying to make. Whether or not he meant to evoke memories of Trayvon Martin, he was (correctly) stating that we all have prejudices, whether we choose to acknowledge them or not. His honesty is refreshing, and very necessary. Comments like his do a hell of a lot more to start real constructive, nuanced discussions about prejudice than the hollow hypocritical pieties other rich white people spout out during times like this.

DirkFTW · 05-28-2014, 11:59 AM

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While his "opinions may be unpopular and false, they remain opinions," Sterling's response reads. He also questions whether the NBA is "willing to set a standard that an individual can be punished for voicing a negative opinion.

"If so, such a standard will make short shrift of many players and coaches. It will also needlessly suppress free speech."

Sterling specifically references Orlando Magic owner Richard DeVos, who, in his words, "has made highly controversial comments against individuals with HIV/AIDS and generously supports anti-homosexual causes with impunity."

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/s...nian-penalties

And now an MSNBC host argues the NBA owes reparations for the "sale of black bodies."

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You can’t really talk about reparations and ignore the modern day wealthy Americans who own teams made up predominantly of black men and profit from their bodies and labor.

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Mark Cuban, the owner of the Dallas Mavericks, who sounded a note of caution. While Cuban called (Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald) Sterling's remarks "abhorrent," he warned that a blanket call for the NBA to kick Sterling out of the league for something he said in private was, quote, a "very, very slippery slope."

In interviews published this week by Inc. Magazine, Cuban waded even deeper into the complicated discourse on race in this country.

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I know I'm prejudiced. I know I'm bigoted, in a lot of different ways.

Y'know, and I've said this before. If I see a black kid in a hoodie at night on the other side of the street — y'know, on the same side of the street — I'm probably going to walk to the other side of the street. If I see a white guy with a shaved head and lots of tattoos, I'm going back to the other side of the street.

All right so let's review the whole story. Wealthy owners? Check. Profit made from the sale of black bodies? Check. Racial angst? Mmm, check. We're going to have more on the case for reparations after this.

I think time may be working against Silver on getting to a 3/4 vote on termination... Will there be 8 owners spooked by the prospect of future forced sales for unsavory words/thoughts?

DevinHarriswillstart · 05-23-2014, 01:06 PM

Sterling going to voluntarily sell. Somewhat surprising, but at least it avoids a whole summer of legal drama.

Underdog · 05-23-2014, 01:17 PM

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Sterling going to voluntarily sell. Somewhat surprising, but at least it avoids a while summer of legal drama.

He's an 80-year-old billionaire with prostate cancer - I'm sure he can find a better way to spend his twilight years than pursuing a long, drawn-out legal battle.

EricaLubarsky · 05-23-2014, 01:28 PM

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He's an 80-year-old billionaire with prostate cancer - I'm sure he can find a better way to spend his twilight years than pursuing a long, drawn-out legal battle.

Being hustled by glorified prostitutes?

DirkFTW · 05-23-2014, 06:49 PM

Yao and Grant Hill want some of the action.

Er the sale, not the crazy ladies.

Underdog · 05-23-2014, 07:37 PM

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Yao and Grant Hill want some of the action.

Er the sale, not the crazy ladies.

Yao would be an interesting choice... LA has the the third-largest Chinese-American and largest Asian-American population in the country, plus the west coast location makes it more accessible to the general Chinese/Asian market (Yao's ambassadorship between China and the NBA is what got him into the Hall of Fame so quickly). Sign Jeremy Lin to be Chris Paul's backup and watch the money/All-Star votes flow in.

EricaLubarsky · 05-29-2014, 06:22 PM

looks like it will be the Los Angeles Microsofts.

EricaLubarsky · 05-29-2014, 07:47 PM

I think NBA players should get reparations, absolutely.

I think giving them a salary of somewhere between $470,000 and $30,400,000 would be a good start.

DirkFTW · 05-30-2014, 11:05 AM

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Wow. Look for a tide of racist comments by NBA owners as they rush to sell their teams.

EricaLubarsky · 06-09-2014, 11:55 PM

Sterling agreed to sell for 2bill and agreed to drop the lawsuit

Today Sterling has backed out of the 2bill sale and wants to sue the NBA for 1billion

Underdog · 06-10-2014, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Sterling agreed to sell for 2bill and agreed to drop the lawsuit

Today Sterling has backed out of the 2bill sale and wants to sue the NBA for 1billion

DirkFTW · 06-10-2014, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Sterling agreed to sell for 2bill and agreed to drop the lawsuit

Today Sterling has backed out of the 2bill sale and wants to sue the NBA for 1billion

I forget the timeline... but part of me wonders if Sterling wanted the offer to be finalized without hurdles to help quantify his damages. Otherwise, how do you put a price tag on how much he's been hurt? And if he fought from the beginning, he risked a perceived devaluing of the team through continued advertiser backlash, players demanding trades, and an eventual forced sale.

If Sterling had said he wanted $1 billion dollars in damages the day Silver made his forced sale announcement, I would have laughed and found a Dr. Evil pic to post. Today, I'm wondering if there's a No. 2 yet to clear his throat...

Jack.Kerr · 06-10-2014, 12:13 PM

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I forget the timeline... but part of me wonders if Sterling wanted the offer to be finalized without hurdles to help quantify his damages. Otherwise, how do you put a price tag on how much he's been hurt? And if he fought from the beginning, he risked a perceived devaluing of the team through continued advertiser backlash, players demanding trades, and an eventual forced sale.

If Sterling had said he wanted $1 billion dollars in damages the day Silver made his forced sale announcement, I would have laughed and found a Dr. Evil pic to post. Today, I'm wondering if there's a No. 2 yet to clear his throat...

Whatever damages Sterling gets will be paid by the Sterling Family Trust, presumably from the $2 billion proceeds from the sale to Balmer. Starting to look like the wildly inflated sales price took this possibility into acccount.

So Sterling is suing himself for $1 billion. He may be demented, but the attorneys still know how to smell a fee.

DirkFTW · 06-10-2014, 02:57 PM

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Whatever damages Sterling gets will be paid by the Sterling Family Trust, presumably from the $2 billion proceeds from the sale to Balmer. Starting to look like the wildly inflated sales price took this possibility into acccount.

So Sterling is suing himself for $1 billion. He may be demented, but the attorneys still know how to smell a fee.

Yea, but it's not all his money. Isn't he going through a divorce? I know very little about family law and estate law, but like any above-average Internet forum poster, I'll assume the math works out well for him and worse for his soon-to-be-ex-wife. Seems like he'd be happy to pay 50 cents to himself if someone he dislikes has to match that payment.

Alright, that's enough out of me. Be careful looking too long into the insanity/racism abyss...

dirt_dobber · 06-10-2014, 06:31 AM